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Post# 722053   12/19/2013 at 16:34 (3,780 days old) by liamy1 (-)        

Hi,

Just quick one, has anyone been stupid enough , like me, to buy a Samsung Eco Bubble? It's 7 months old - won't turn and then says motor fault.

I got the top of the range 12kg one too :(

Has anyone else had problems with these machines?

Thanks





Post# 722056 , Reply# 1   12/19/2013 at 16:49 (3,780 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

Ive had an entry level 7kg model for a year and its been fine, the only problem I had turned out to be caused by a power surge. Sorry to hear you've had problems with yours :(
Tom


Post# 722061 , Reply# 2   12/19/2013 at 17:39 (3,780 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Thanks

Thanks Tom, It really has peed me off something chronic :( Glad yours is working. But the "bubble" has burst for me :P

Post# 722069 , Reply# 3   12/19/2013 at 18:25 (3,780 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
it's under warranty

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....so get the sodden thing fixed or demand a refund under 'lemon' or similar laws.

Post# 722137 , Reply# 4   12/20/2013 at 04:57 (3,780 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
Why buy Samsung?!

First error was to believe a 12 kg capacity in a standard sized machine, secondly comes the "eco bubble" fraud.

I'm too with Chris (Ronhic), have it refunded and get something from a more reputable manufacturer! (Anyone that produces in Europe...)


Post# 722148 , Reply# 5   12/20/2013 at 06:47 (3,780 days old) by zodawash (Lincolnshire,United Kingdom)        
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A more reputable manufacturer? what than Samsung? Are you having a laugh! They are about as good as it gets.

Sorry your machine has gone wrong. I have a few samsung appliances, oven, hob, washer etc. Outstanding stuff, so get it fixed and carry on washing.





Post# 722153 , Reply# 6   12/20/2013 at 07:11 (3,780 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

Zodawash, believe it or not, but Samsung has among the worst reputation an appliance company can have, to the point that the rage for the incident of the exploding Candy machine was just a nuisance in comparison!

And as I said, on the other hand I personally wouldn't buy anything that is made with slave labour if I have the choice!
And have you ever used Samsung after sale service or needed spare parts? The worst, ever.



Post# 722194 , Reply# 7   12/20/2013 at 12:33 (3,780 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

dj-gabriele

That is just your opinion. There are issues that arise with all manufacturers. Good and bad in each. You are very much opinionated. Really would not bother to take much notice of the rubbish you type on here.

Liamy1

Sorry to hear of your issues, hope you get this sorted asap.


Post# 722247 , Reply# 8   12/20/2013 at 20:07 (3,779 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Repair/refund

Thanks guys,

It gets worse than the machine breaking down.

The retailer I purchased it from has gone into liquidation, so try and pursue a refund through them I need to contact the liquidators overseeing the ex-company's assets, which I believe is a really lengthy process.

I can't get it disputed under my card provider on the Visa Chargeback scheme, as it's outside the 120 day time limit.

Samsung are happy to repair it, but have said categorically that they will not issue a refund :(

I suppose, I can live with a repair (although next week it will be the 4th engineer visit, as first visit was when the washer was new, as machine was emitting a strange noise. Second visit the engineer said he could not find a fault??? 3rd visit he found fault but he brought the wrong part (motor) so awaiting him turning up next week)

Fingers crossed ey?


Post# 722354 , Reply# 9   12/21/2013 at 12:48 (3,779 days old) by aquarius1984 (Planet earth)        

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NO.

I think enough is enough with this machine. If the repair next time does not result in it doing as it should you are well within your rights to demand a brand new replacement machine direct from samsung.

Any excuses they give you point them to the Sale of Goods Act and mention that

"Goods must be fit for intended purpose and be fault free for a reasonable period of time"

If faults persist and reasonable action was taken to repair the fault but didnt cure the problem then you ARE indeed ENTITLED to be given a brand new machine direct from Samsung.

I think a 5th engineer visit is reasonable action taken and you ought to be demanding they send a new machine out.

Stand your ground and be firm, Trading standards can be consulted and they may help you. They will also be able step in and deal with Samsung.


Post# 722393 , Reply# 10   12/21/2013 at 16:30 (3,778 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Oh no! I once bought headphones via a retailer on Amazon. They broke and I sent them back to the retailer. Unfortunately, he went bankrupt and disappeared - with my headphones. :-( Have my fingers definitely crossed for you.

Post# 722776 , Reply# 11   12/23/2013 at 19:09 (3,776 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Thanks

Thanks aquarius and logixx.

To be honest, this repair will be the last time I am reserved with Samsung, if this repair doesn't work then I will then be having it out with them, as I now have not been able to use the machine for 2 weeks.



Post# 725171 , Reply# 12   1/5/2014 at 07:51 (3,764 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Update

Hi,

Just an update, engineer came on Christmas Eve and switched out the motor.

All working fine :)

Day before New Years Eve.... Fault happens again :(

Called Samsung (As a call agent myself, I wasn't abusive to the agent as it really is not the advisers fault) but I made it clear that I am not happy.

They said again that I only have a repair contract with them, but I am refusing this. I asked why should I take a 5th engineer visit, how many chances do they want to put it right.

Samsung Head Office are now looking into it.

Will let you know.

Thanks


Post# 728988 , Reply# 13   1/20/2014 at 06:26 (3,749 days old) by hadenough ()        
Samsung Eco Bubble washing machine

Yes, I too bought one of the Eco Bubble washing machine which has been an absolute disaster as far as I am concerned. I wish I had never set eyes on it.

My machine washes alright although I have never seen any BUBBLES in it since I purchased it. My problem is the 1200/1400 spin which shakes the whole of the house, the vibration is awful and the clanging noise that accompanies it. I am afraid to turn it on.


All transit bolts were removed and feet levelled.

I am only able to use the machine on the 800spin which is not acceptable at all as it is not fit for the purpose that it is intended for - Sale of Goods Act 1979.

Two engineers have been out, the machine is still clanging and vibrating.

I am not at all happy to have paid so much for a machine that is unusable.

I have requested a refund but no joy so far.

I am so angry, I bought this machine after reading glowing reports about it.

I just wish I had my old washing machine back.

Has anyone else had bits of debris collecting inside the door on the machine? I have this and have no way of getting it out. I assumed that the door was fully sealed.

All in all a very disappointing experience. Never again.



Post# 728990 , Reply# 14   1/20/2014 at 06:38 (3,749 days old) by hadenough ()        
Eco Bubble Washing Machine

Sorry, I forgot to mention that my machine is only 7 months old.

Post# 729267 , Reply# 15   1/21/2014 at 05:37 (3,748 days old) by w5872 ()        
well`

Update?

I'm really sorry you chose to purchase Samsung. :(

Hope you at least get a new machine out of the SOB'S.

Get the new one, and while it's still packaged hock it on ebay and buy yourself something decent :)

Happy arguing! :)


Post# 729639 , Reply# 16   1/22/2014 at 15:31 (3,747 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Update

Samsung pushed for a 5th repair, so the engineer turned up to replace the PCB on Saturday 11th Jan, and.....

He brought the wrong one.

So after this, Samsung learned it would take until to the end of Jan to get the right one.

So they have (just today in fact) agreed to refund me for the machine and they're picking the old one up.

I loved the machine, just sorry it had this fault.

I have a USA Top Loader now, which I have to admit, I love how fast I can get through the washing.

I hope, you get yours sorted hadenough, I never had a problem with the spin, nor any debris in the door.

It's funny that both machines are 7 months old.


Post# 729704 , Reply# 17   1/22/2014 at 18:39 (3,746 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
liamy1

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Glad you eventually got things sorted. What USA T/L machine have you got?

Post# 729724 , Reply# 18   1/22/2014 at 19:14 (3,746 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Hi Paulc

I've got the Whirlpool Series 8 Top Loader.

Almost identical to the one in the link.


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Post# 729732 , Reply# 19   1/22/2014 at 19:36 (3,746 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Actually

Actually, it is that identical washer.

I love it.

The full, heavy duty, super plus water, extra rinse wash cycle takes 45 minutes. Not hours like the last one.


Post# 729744 , Reply# 20   1/22/2014 at 20:13 (3,746 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Nice

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My aunt bought a US T/L about 12 yrs ago, she loves it and wished she had been able to get one when her kids were younger. Heavy on the detergent though unless you use handwash/twintub detergent.




Post# 729854 , Reply# 21   1/23/2014 at 09:51 (3,746 days old) by hadenough ()        
Problem fixed

I am happy to report that Samsung have responded to my problem and all has now been sorted out so I cannot complain on that score as they have acted quite quickly which is a relief.

I am now able to get a different machine.








Post# 729924 , Reply# 22   1/23/2014 at 16:11 (3,745 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Detergent use

I'm quite lucky, I got a fair stash of US non HE(and some HE) Tide, Cheer and a bit of Gain detergent.

I agree with your Aunt - I love mine too.


Post# 730073 , Reply# 23   1/24/2014 at 07:54 (3,745 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Just seen the spec for that Whirlpool TL:

Wash Performance - G
Spin Performance - D
Energy Rating - G
Spin speed - 650rpm
Drum capacity - 8kg

What the...?
You'd have been better off with an A rated, 9kg 1400 spin Beko for half the price.


Post# 730099 , Reply# 24   1/24/2014 at 10:35 (3,745 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I think these tests - esp. the wash performance - were really made for front loaders. I wouldn't mind having on of these as a second washer - if water and electricity were free, of course!

Post# 730142 , Reply# 25   1/24/2014 at 12:29 (3,745 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
these tests... were really made for front loaders.

Alexander, it's not that way: the relevant CEI EN 60456 (or DIN EN since you're in Germany or IEC EN for the others but the text is the same) has separate test procedures for both front loaders, top loaders with impeller and top loaders with agitators, to test them in the most appropriate conditions and not the same way.
They are so strict in standardization that even the detergent composition is tabulated and also the way to put clothing in the machine to achieve consistent test results. (Paragraph H.5.4 for top loaders, H.3 for front loaders)

Those machines achieve such low grades because cleaning ability is indeed much worse than a horizontal axis machine, same is for the low energy efficiency as the water heating (even if done by another appliance like a separate boiler) is counted in.

Of course if electricity and water were free I'd want one to play with (maybe a vintage American one like the early Frigidaire!)


Post# 730160 , Reply# 26   1/24/2014 at 13:38 (3,745 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Performance

I have to admit, I was really sceptical about the spin speed. However, they're perfectly dry enough for the dryer and racks.

This is the first weekend ever that I have had practically no washing to do, normally I am a prisoner to it.

I absolutely love it, all clothes clean and away before Friday night :P

Honeymoon period or not, I would be very hard pushed to get rid of it.


Post# 730168 , Reply# 27   1/24/2014 at 14:07 (3,745 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Chris

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US and UK T/L have always been rated badly for energy efficiency and wash performance. Hotpoint's last generation of T/L were rated G for energy efficiency and F for wash performance, having used one I thought they washed very well.

I think the US T/L are rated so bady as they possibly use the "normal" cycle and not "Heavy Duty". Also you have to factor what detergent they use, if you are using a normal dose of european detergent designed for F/L's of course you will get poor results. A 100ml dose designed to work in 10 to 15L of wash water in a F/L will not give good results used in 70L of wash water in a US T/L.

I do have a fondness for US T/L washers but practically they would not work for me. I would miss the ability to wash above tap hot water.


Post# 730190 , Reply# 28   1/24/2014 at 15:32 (3,745 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Agree

Agree Paulc about the tap hot water, I wish I could heat the water more.

So next shopping trip will have to get some thin chorine bleach (our closest to Clorox?)


Post# 730195 , Reply# 29   1/24/2014 at 15:37 (3,745 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
However,

This article made me feel a bit better about only having tap hot water ;P

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Post# 730218 , Reply# 30   1/24/2014 at 16:54 (3,744 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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I'm always dubious about anything written in the daily mail! Scaremongering to the extreme. I agree the article makes some valid points however I have yet to hear of anyone becoming ill from bacteria on domestic laundry. The cold v's warm/hot debate has been done to death on here and really doesn't need to be discussed further. What I would say is the shear amount of hot water in your new washer plus quality detergent plus mechanical action is more than enough to get your clothes clean.

One thing I would not do though is put UK washing powder on dry clothes before your machine fills as you run the risk of "bleach" marks if using a non colour format. I think using chlorine bleach may not be so effective if you have used a detergent with oxy bleach as the two tend to cancel each other out, however if you are still working through your stash of US detergent I'd say a thin bleach would work very well, plus it's super cheap.


Post# 730600 , Reply# 31   1/26/2014 at 05:57 (3,743 days old) by suds (Brisbane, Australia)        
Celebrity..!?

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...they used my washer in the newspaper article - lol, that's my exact 9kg AEG :) which, I have to add, is fabulous and does NOT have mucky bacteria as it's regularly run with 60c cycles.

Post# 731203 , Reply# 32   1/28/2014 at 09:24 (3,741 days old) by chris74 ()        
Of course one can't...

...compare US TLs to Euro FLs... No matter which detergent you use. Wash ratings of "F" or "G" don't surprise me...


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