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Post# 727481   1/13/2014 at 16:01 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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I picked up this machine in the summer last year and have just pulled it out of the shed to get it back on its feet. It's a curious machine which reminds me of the Smash robot adverts in the 70s!!

Here are a few pictures from when I first collected it.





Post# 727482 , Reply# 1   1/13/2014 at 16:03 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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I think it's the blue dials that bear the resemblance

Post# 727484 , Reply# 2   1/13/2014 at 16:05 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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It has its original hoses but the drain hose has gone really stiff so I will have to replace it - I think a Servis twin tub hose should do the trick

Post# 727485 , Reply# 3   1/13/2014 at 16:06 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Another machine with a big induction motor

Post# 727486 , Reply# 4   1/13/2014 at 16:08 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Ratings plate

Post# 727487 , Reply# 5   1/13/2014 at 16:09 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Innards

Post# 727488 , Reply# 6   1/13/2014 at 16:11 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Soap dispenser cover removed showing the water shute

Post# 727489 , Reply# 7   1/13/2014 at 16:15 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Inside the drum before I cleaned it

Post# 727490 , Reply# 8   1/13/2014 at 16:20 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The only issue was that the hoses from the inlet valves to the dispenser had rotted and were leaking. I managed to get some internal dispenser hose from an old hotpoint Aquarius which were just the right length so fitted them yesterday. Bit of a shame as the originals were colour coordinated as you can just see in the picture.

Post# 727491 , Reply# 9   1/13/2014 at 16:21 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The other end by the dispenser

Post# 727492 , Reply# 10   1/13/2014 at 16:23 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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And the dispenser shute. The water jets into this at different angles which then determins which spout it comes out of

Post# 727493 , Reply# 11   1/13/2014 at 16:25 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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The electrics

Post# 727496 , Reply# 12   1/13/2014 at 16:38 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Last pic of the flap. I've done a video of it which I'm just uploading. It has a bit of a strange wash programme as part of the rinse cycle on programmes 1 - 5 is the wash cycles of the other programmes. This means it does a brief heating cycle on the 2nd rinse.

It also does the spin drains which are something else. I'm not sure if it is our modern washing detergents or me just putting too much in but I did a load of colours in it with liquid gel and I had loads of problems with suds locking during the spins.

Would be great to get any copies of service info if anyone can help either for these or a newer slimstar (I'm sure the basics will be similar) as there is a bit of a leak from the top during the spin drains. Some of the seals round the lid have gone a bit sticky too so will have to see if I can source some replacements.

Overall not a bad machine - quite solid, fairly quiet but not too exciting. See what you think when I post the video

S :)


Post# 727500 , Reply# 13   1/13/2014 at 16:53 (3,755 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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Steve

What a great find, mid 1970s i am thinking, I remember seeing these when my mum bought her first Zanussi in 1975. I had no idea they were built in the UK though, i had always assumed France as H axis top loaders are far more popular there than here. That combined with the blue knobs which the earlier French Philips models had.

Al


Post# 727510 , Reply# 14   1/13/2014 at 17:16 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Thanks Al. Yes I was surprised as well. I think the crucial numbers that may give a clue to its age have rubbed off but I think mid to late 70s would be right

I know matchbox Paul has one but other than that there seems to be very little information about these. I've attached a picture of some literature which I found on tinternet but it's not in English.

Link to video now attached too.

S


CLICK HERE TO GO TO sesteve's LINK


Post# 727533 , Reply# 15   1/13/2014 at 18:46 (3,755 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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I haven't seen one of these since I was 8 or 9. Mum's friend has it right in the far corner of the kitchen with the units build all around it, Great find, super machine.

Post# 727685 , Reply# 16   1/14/2014 at 13:37 (3,754 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
New link

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Sorry, I've been upgraded with my videos! New link attached

S


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Post# 727722 , Reply# 17   1/14/2014 at 17:52 (3,754 days old) by statomatic (France)        

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Hi, beautiful machine, the timer is a "Sibel" made in France.


Post# 727817 , Reply# 18   1/15/2014 at 09:57 (3,753 days old) by lemniscate (United Kingdom)        

Our neighbour had one of these when i was a kid. She had it in a lean-to and I could watch it jumping about from our garden. I think that i read in a Which report that although it has programme 4 5o degrees on the dial, that it only only heated to 40 degrees on this programme. 1000 rpm spin speed, our neighbour loved the machine and when it packed up got the newer version.

Post# 727825 , Reply# 19   1/15/2014 at 10:28 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
First time...

Hi there, first post on this site, but look at it every day though as, like the rest of you, I adore washing machines, used to repair them a long time ago. I have quite a large collection (in the 1000s) of brochures, manuals etc and when I saw this post today I had to write as this was my absolute favorite washer in the 80s, had one for quite a few years. I have the original brochure, operating instructions and maintenance manual for it – which I’m happy to share. When I get a moment I’ll try and upload some of it. In case you’re interested I have a Keymatic (which needs restoring), a contrarotating Dyson and then Miele appliances as everyday machines.

Best regards

Alan


Post# 727840 , Reply# 20   1/15/2014 at 12:46 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
As promised

Operating instructions page 1

Post# 727841 , Reply# 21   1/15/2014 at 12:47 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Operating instructions

Page 2

Post# 727843 , Reply# 22   1/15/2014 at 12:49 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Operating instructions

page 3 (last one)

Post# 727845 , Reply# 23   1/15/2014 at 12:52 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Brochure

Sorry it's not in colour (next time will sort)

Post# 727846 , Reply# 24   1/15/2014 at 12:53 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Brochure

page 2

Post# 727890 , Reply# 25   1/15/2014 at 17:15 (3,753 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
Welcome

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Hi Alan

I think we all start off just like you have. It's not that scary really once you are in!

Thanks for posting those. Great to have copies of the manual - I would never have known about the different spin times depending on the position of the selector. If I could be cheeky and get a copy of the service manual that would be fantastic. I could make a few things out from the pictures on the info I saw on the internet such as changing the position of the hoses and the transit bracket arrangement but that was it.

Sounds like you have a great collection of literature. You are really lucky as it seems harder to come by now. I might pester you to see if you have a couple of other bits I've not been able to find ;)

S


Post# 727980 , Reply# 26   1/16/2014 at 01:39 (3,752 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Maintenance manual

Hi there S

Sure no problem to copy everything, I'll send you an email.

Cheers, Alan


Post# 728066 , Reply# 27   1/16/2014 at 11:46 (3,752 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
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Alan
Welcome to AW, thanks for posting the manuals. I am also in London and have a couple of (working) Keymatics so if you fancy a trip down memory lane some weekend drop me an email
Al


Post# 728080 , Reply# 28   1/16/2014 at 12:56 (3,752 days old) by BEHZAD (Home Appliances Lab)        

good compact washer.like a toy!

Post# 728123 , Reply# 29   1/16/2014 at 16:59 (3,752 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Wonderful machine! I remember adds in magazines when I was young. I really loved these machines, this model made me have an interest in topload H-axis machines.

This machine is 45cm wide, the later ones made in France were 40cm wide. I bought the later AWB119PH as my first washing machine. That machine had the openings in the side panels too for the hoses. I loved the spin drain.

And thanks for sharing all the literature. Great stuff!

BTW, what's the spinspeed of this machine?



Post# 728132 , Reply# 30   1/16/2014 at 17:40 (3,752 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        

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Brilliant - thanks Alan

Behzad - if only it was the same weight as a toy. Too many stairs in this house to move them up and down lol

Hi Louis. It has a 1000rpm spin on this machine - the later machines dropped to 850rpm for some reason. You can see the belt move up the clutch pulley on the spin once the water has drained out.

Does anyone know when Philips moved away from the spin drain as I know Al's front loader did this as well. Not sure if it was a 70s thing


Post# 729379 , Reply# 31   1/21/2014 at 12:49 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Service Manual

I've scanned the whole manual to upload, but the writing is very small. Here's something though that maybe of interest.

Post# 729398 , Reply# 32   1/21/2014 at 14:19 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Steve.

Blimey, you snook that one in quietly by the back door didn't you! lol.
So there are now two safe HN3156's - the more the merrier, as far as I am concerned and great that you have started to tinker with it.

As you hint at earlier, my god they weigh an absolute ton! Don't envy you having to climb stairs with it - everything is solid, forged from the heaviest metals known to mankind. That's what it feels like to move anyway.

Won't go into too much waffle, as I've waffled on about it before, but one of my grandma's had one of these and it was installed sideways, with the dials running up the right hand side. Haven't the foggiest why they didn't by a front loader to be honest, as it was installed under a worksurface anyway.

Was overjoyed to be able to acquire my own and now there are two!


Post# 729400 , Reply# 33   1/21/2014 at 14:21 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
'647'

Mine was made in the 47th week of 1976.



Post# 729404 , Reply# 34   1/21/2014 at 14:26 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Both our machines highlight a small weakness in the design and its probably caused by twisting forces when operating. Do you see it?

Post# 729407 , Reply# 35   1/21/2014 at 14:32 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Unfortunately my machine has a pump issue that is yet to be investigated.

It has hopefully a blocked, rather than failed, pump. The machine was acquired, filled up and put on spin, where upon it spat water out of its suds overflow.

The flow of water through the outlet hose was minimal and it didn't pump out sufficient water before it began to spin, with the result that it threw it everywhere.
Apart from that, it works! lol.

Keep us updated with how everything goes with the Slimstar - I will observe with interest.
Cheers
Paul


Post# 729408 , Reply# 36   1/21/2014 at 14:38 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

p.s re spin draining. As far as frontloaders were concerned, all left hand drive machines were spin drainers, with this feature being discontinued when the right hand drive series 90 models were introduced in the mid 80s.

Cant speak for toploaders, but this second generation SlimstarMkII AWB117 (owned by Richard in Bristol) was also a spin drainer and was also considerably lighter in weight than the HN3156.
I dreaded collecting it for Richard, but it was light as a feather (well maybe not that light, but you get the idea)...


Post# 729409 , Reply# 37   1/21/2014 at 14:39 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

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Post# 729414 , Reply# 38   1/21/2014 at 14:50 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Calling Alan!

Hi Alan.

Welcome to the club and what an arrival!
Thanks for posting pages of the literature concerning the tank, sorry ... Slimstar.

An absolute classic from a superb brand that I for one miss from the scene. Constructing classic machines, with character that set them apart from the rest.

Really appreciate you posting pages from the instruction manual, especially as I have always been a bit confused by its operation.

Cant wait to read more about this superb machine.
Regards
Paul


Post# 729436 , Reply# 39   1/21/2014 at 17:38 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Thanks Paul for your welcome

Here's something else from the manual

Post# 729437 , Reply# 40   1/21/2014 at 17:41 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Just trying...

one page to see if you can read the print

Post# 729439 , Reply# 41   1/21/2014 at 17:46 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
unfortunately you can't read

the print, anyone who wants the manual please email me. I'm going on holiday this week, so there will be a bit of a delay in me replying. Cheers, Alan

Post# 729454 , Reply# 42   1/21/2014 at 19:04 (3,746 days old) by statomatic (France)        

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@ matchboxpaul :
The "Slimstar mkII" machines are quite common in France, they are called "Cylène", the motor is a brushed type with permanent magnet with speed controlled by an electronic circuit.
The spin drain starts at 200rpm and increases until the tub empties, they are lightweight because of the plastic chassis.
I have a brown finish Philips AWB135 in my collection (it's a low end model so max spin speed is just 550rpm !).

@ alanlondon :
Very interesting technical documents, if you have better scans I'd be interested.




Post# 729526 , Reply# 43   1/22/2014 at 01:50 (3,746 days old) by alanlondon (London)        
Hi Statomatic

I've emailed you the whole document. Cheers, Alan

Post# 729539 , Reply# 44   1/22/2014 at 04:04 (3,746 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Hi Steve, you are racking up the teasures for sure, another fine example of the "Best of British" I remember seeing this model in a local Trident electrical shop when my Nan was looking for a new spinarinse, the blue hue of colour always sets them off, do you have the matching dryer?

Hi Alan, and welcome to the club, would welcome seeing pics of your collection and literature when your back, if you can I would also request an email copy to view...where you an engineer for a company or independent repair shop etc?


Post# 729612 , Reply# 45   1/22/2014 at 12:53 (3,746 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi statomatic.
Would be really good to see just which model the AWB135 is. Any chance of a photo of your machine as, though Philips made many different versions of the Slimstar, images of the different models are difficult to come by.

Welcome to the forum!
Paul


Post# 729613 , Reply# 46   1/22/2014 at 12:54 (3,746 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Alan.

Can I add my name to the list of future recipients of your Slimstar servicing information please.

Have a great holiday.
Regards
Paul


Post# 729898 , Reply# 47   1/23/2014 at 14:08 (3,745 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Alan.

Many thanks for the servicing information. Fingers crossed that once things settle down with my house and the slimstar lands safely here, that I can get the drain issue sorted.

I don't think that the following machine has ever been posted on the forum before - do you ever remember seeing this slimstar variation?

The HN3157 Slimstar 666 ....


Post# 729899 , Reply# 48   1/23/2014 at 14:09 (3,745 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the HN3154 Fatstar ..... erm, sorry .... Top Star....

Post# 729900 , Reply# 49   1/23/2014 at 14:12 (3,745 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Now thats a similar looking machine to the one

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my mums neighbour had it was a Phillips slimstar with brown details and a similar back to the one pictured above but it had a flap that when lifted had all the instructions on, don't recall the model though sorry.

Austin


Post# 729928 , Reply# 50   1/23/2014 at 16:33 (3,745 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)        
For mash get smash!

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Hi Paul

Certainly no chance of sneaking this machine in anywhere. The only advantage is that it is slimmer that the hotpoint top loader which is difficult on the stairs as they are narrow. Did your Grandma's one have gaps around it as you can see how much mine wobbles back and forwards on the first spin drain so if it was wedged in with would have shook the place to bits!

Yours looks to be in better condition. Mine is a bit scratched on the console and the plastic has yellowed - I think it was by a window and would explains the hardness of the drain hose. What is your one like? And yes, they both have the crack in the same place. There is a bit of rust that has formed inside the console because of that crack so will have to sort that.

I haven't undone my pump but it looks like it is easy to service so hopefully it is just a build up of fluff or scale with yours. I need to take a look at mine as the flow does slow when it starts spinning. On the first spin drain it barely has time to get up to speed before it stops so perhaps a clear out will help.

It's great seeing that there is all this literature on these and some of their cousins. Mike I haven't got the dryer. I've seen a couple come up but haven't got the room. I've got 2 dryers and I think that's enough for now. Perhaps if the next house has more room then I'll consider it especially if it means I don't have to keep carrying these about.


Post# 729931 , Reply# 51   1/23/2014 at 16:42 (3,745 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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The Philips Topstar was also known as the CC1000.

Post# 730445 , Reply# 52   1/25/2014 at 15:57 (3,743 days old) by Rolls_rapide (.)        

My uncle and his wife had a Philips Slimstar. I don't know which version, but I do remember him saying that it was a pain in the neck to work on. I presumed that it was very cramped inside.


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