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Post# 727481   1/13/2014 at 16:01 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727482 , Reply# 1   1/13/2014 at 16:03 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727484 , Reply# 2   1/13/2014 at 16:05 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727485 , Reply# 3   1/13/2014 at 16:06 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727486 , Reply# 4   1/13/2014 at 16:08 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727487 , Reply# 5   1/13/2014 at 16:09 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727488 , Reply# 6   1/13/2014 at 16:11 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727489 , Reply# 7   1/13/2014 at 16:15 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727490 , Reply# 8   1/13/2014 at 16:20 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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The only issue was that the hoses from the inlet valves to the dispenser had rotted and were leaking. I managed to get some internal dispenser hose from an old hotpoint Aquarius which were just the right length so fitted them yesterday. Bit of a shame as the originals were colour coordinated as you can just see in the picture.
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Post# 727491 , Reply# 9   1/13/2014 at 16:21 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727492 , Reply# 10   1/13/2014 at 16:23 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727493 , Reply# 11   1/13/2014 at 16:25 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727496 , Reply# 12   1/13/2014 at 16:38 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Last pic of the flap. I've done a video of it which I'm just uploading. It has a bit of a strange wash programme as part of the rinse cycle on programmes 1 - 5 is the wash cycles of the other programmes. This means it does a brief heating cycle on the 2nd rinse.
It also does the spin drains which are something else. I'm not sure if it is our modern washing detergents or me just putting too much in but I did a load of colours in it with liquid gel and I had loads of problems with suds locking during the spins. Would be great to get any copies of service info if anyone can help either for these or a newer slimstar (I'm sure the basics will be similar) as there is a bit of a leak from the top during the spin drains. Some of the seals round the lid have gone a bit sticky too so will have to see if I can source some replacements. Overall not a bad machine - quite solid, fairly quiet but not too exciting. See what you think when I post the video S :) |
Post# 727500 , Reply# 13   1/13/2014 at 16:53 (3,755 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Steve
What a great find, mid 1970s i am thinking, I remember seeing these when my mum bought her first Zanussi in 1975. I had no idea they were built in the UK though, i had always assumed France as H axis top loaders are far more popular there than here. That combined with the blue knobs which the earlier French Philips models had. Al |
Post# 727510 , Reply# 14   1/13/2014 at 17:16 (3,755 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Thanks Al. Yes I was surprised as well. I think the crucial numbers that may give a clue to its age have rubbed off but I think mid to late 70s would be right
I know matchbox Paul has one but other than that there seems to be very little information about these. I've attached a picture of some literature which I found on tinternet but it's not in English. Link to video now attached too. S CLICK HERE TO GO TO sesteve's LINK |
Post# 727533 , Reply# 15   1/13/2014 at 18:46 (3,755 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 727685 , Reply# 16   1/14/2014 at 13:37 (3,754 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 727722 , Reply# 17   1/14/2014 at 17:52 (3,754 days old) by statomatic (France)   |   | |
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Post# 727840 , Reply# 20   1/15/2014 at 12:46 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Operating instructions page 1 |
Post# 727841 , Reply# 21   1/15/2014 at 12:47 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Post# 727843 , Reply# 22   1/15/2014 at 12:49 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Post# 727845 , Reply# 23   1/15/2014 at 12:52 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Sorry it's not in colour (next time will sort) |
Post# 727846 , Reply# 24   1/15/2014 at 12:53 (3,753 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Post# 727890 , Reply# 25   1/15/2014 at 17:15 (3,753 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Hi Alan
I think we all start off just like you have. It's not that scary really once you are in! Thanks for posting those. Great to have copies of the manual - I would never have known about the different spin times depending on the position of the selector. If I could be cheeky and get a copy of the service manual that would be fantastic. I could make a few things out from the pictures on the info I saw on the internet such as changing the position of the hoses and the transit bracket arrangement but that was it. Sounds like you have a great collection of literature. You are really lucky as it seems harder to come by now. I might pester you to see if you have a couple of other bits I've not been able to find ;) S |
Post# 727980 , Reply# 26   1/16/2014 at 01:39 (3,752 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Hi there S Sure no problem to copy everything, I'll send you an email. Cheers, Alan |
Post# 728066 , Reply# 27   1/16/2014 at 11:46 (3,752 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 728080 , Reply# 28   1/16/2014 at 12:56 (3,752 days old) by BEHZAD (Home Appliances Lab)   |   | |
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good compact washer.like a toy! |
Post# 728123 , Reply# 29   1/16/2014 at 16:59 (3,752 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Wonderful machine! I remember adds in magazines when I was young. I really loved these machines, this model made me have an interest in topload H-axis machines.
This machine is 45cm wide, the later ones made in France were 40cm wide. I bought the later AWB119PH as my first washing machine. That machine had the openings in the side panels too for the hoses. I loved the spin drain. And thanks for sharing all the literature. Great stuff! BTW, what's the spinspeed of this machine? |
Post# 728132 , Reply# 30   1/16/2014 at 17:40 (3,752 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Brilliant - thanks Alan
Behzad - if only it was the same weight as a toy. Too many stairs in this house to move them up and down lol Hi Louis. It has a 1000rpm spin on this machine - the later machines dropped to 850rpm for some reason. You can see the belt move up the clutch pulley on the spin once the water has drained out. Does anyone know when Philips moved away from the spin drain as I know Al's front loader did this as well. Not sure if it was a 70s thing |
Post# 729379 , Reply# 31   1/21/2014 at 12:49 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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I've scanned the whole manual to upload, but the writing is very small. Here's something though that maybe of interest. |
Post# 729400 , Reply# 33   1/21/2014 at 14:21 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Mine was made in the 47th week of 1976. |
Post# 729404 , Reply# 34   1/21/2014 at 14:26 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Both our machines highlight a small weakness in the design and its probably caused by twisting forces when operating. Do you see it? |
Post# 729409 , Reply# 37   1/21/2014 at 14:39 (3,747 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Post# 729436 , Reply# 39   1/21/2014 at 17:38 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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Here's something else from the manual |
Post# 729437 , Reply# 40   1/21/2014 at 17:41 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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one page to see if you can read the print |
Post# 729439 , Reply# 41   1/21/2014 at 17:46 (3,747 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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the print, anyone who wants the manual please email me. I'm going on holiday this week, so there will be a bit of a delay in me replying. Cheers, Alan |
Post# 729454 , Reply# 42   1/21/2014 at 19:04 (3,746 days old) by statomatic (France)   |   | |
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@ matchboxpaul :
The "Slimstar mkII" machines are quite common in France, they are called "Cylène", the motor is a brushed type with permanent magnet with speed controlled by an electronic circuit. The spin drain starts at 200rpm and increases until the tub empties, they are lightweight because of the plastic chassis. I have a brown finish Philips AWB135 in my collection (it's a low end model so max spin speed is just 550rpm !). @ alanlondon : Very interesting technical documents, if you have better scans I'd be interested. |
Post# 729526 , Reply# 43   1/22/2014 at 01:50 (3,746 days old) by alanlondon (London)   |   | |
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I've emailed you the whole document. Cheers, Alan |
Post# 729539 , Reply# 44   1/22/2014 at 04:04 (3,746 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hi Steve, you are racking up the teasures for sure, another fine example of the "Best of British" I remember seeing this model in a local Trident electrical shop when my Nan was looking for a new spinarinse, the blue hue of colour always sets them off, do you have the matching dryer?
Hi Alan, and welcome to the club, would welcome seeing pics of your collection and literature when your back, if you can I would also request an email copy to view...where you an engineer for a company or independent repair shop etc? |
Post# 729613 , Reply# 46   1/22/2014 at 12:54 (3,746 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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Hi Alan. Can I add my name to the list of future recipients of your Slimstar servicing information please. Have a great holiday. Regards Paul |
Post# 729899 , Reply# 48   1/23/2014 at 14:09 (3,745 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)   |   | |
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and the HN3154 Fatstar ..... erm, sorry .... Top Star.... |
Post# 729900 , Reply# 49   1/23/2014 at 14:12 (3,745 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Post# 729928 , Reply# 50   1/23/2014 at 16:33 (3,745 days old) by sesteve (London, UK)   |   | |
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Hi Paul
Certainly no chance of sneaking this machine in anywhere. The only advantage is that it is slimmer that the hotpoint top loader which is difficult on the stairs as they are narrow. Did your Grandma's one have gaps around it as you can see how much mine wobbles back and forwards on the first spin drain so if it was wedged in with would have shook the place to bits! Yours looks to be in better condition. Mine is a bit scratched on the console and the plastic has yellowed - I think it was by a window and would explains the hardness of the drain hose. What is your one like? And yes, they both have the crack in the same place. There is a bit of rust that has formed inside the console because of that crack so will have to sort that. I haven't undone my pump but it looks like it is easy to service so hopefully it is just a build up of fluff or scale with yours. I need to take a look at mine as the flow does slow when it starts spinning. On the first spin drain it barely has time to get up to speed before it stops so perhaps a clear out will help. It's great seeing that there is all this literature on these and some of their cousins. Mike I haven't got the dryer. I've seen a couple come up but haven't got the room. I've got 2 dryers and I think that's enough for now. Perhaps if the next house has more room then I'll consider it especially if it means I don't have to keep carrying these about. |
Post# 729931 , Reply# 51   1/23/2014 at 16:42 (3,745 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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