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Finally Gave My Hoover TT A Good Work Out! |
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Post# 110962   2/20/2006 at 21:10 (6,639 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Much as one enjoys the new Miele, housekeeping waits for no one, and had a huge pile of bed linens to be laundered. Over 12 flat sheets and twice as many pillow slips. All cotton, most are percale; a fabric that is rather crisp and thus does not compact down. This means to avoid poor laundering results and horrible creasing, a front loader needs to be lightly loaded. Using the Miele would have taken ages at about 2 sheets/3 cases at one time. Time to fetch out the Hoover TT. First thing was to alter my washing habits and used warm water for the wash instead of very hot. This would cut down on the creasing. Though only one king sheet could wash at a time without over crowding, once I got into sync, things flew by. Would wash one load, move it over to the spinner, spray a bit of cold water, and allow that to spin. While spinning loaded the next sheet into the wash tub and started it to wash. Using the "Heavy Soil" wash time gave one ample time to do 4 spray rinses on the load in the spinner.As my unit does not have the automatic spray rinse, "spray rinsing" for me was lifting the lid, hosing down the load, and spinning again. Found the secret is that with cotton sheets, one does not have to spin very long. I stopped the spinning soon as the unit made the sound indicating the pump was "empty". After washing 5 sheets, changed wash water for fresh water/detergent and finished the remaining linens. When all was washed, drained/cleaned out the wash tub, then filled with fresh cold water and one cup of white vinegar along with some starch. Each sheet got a "deep rinse/starch bath" and was lightly spun out as described above. Pillow slips were last and must say the rinse water was quite clear, aside from the starch. This means the spin rinses were very effective. Results? All done in about 2 1/2 hours, laundry is hanging out on the line, and will be taken in damp for ironing. Not too shabby, but allot of work. Still beats the ages it would have taken in the Miele. L. |
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Post# 110967 , Reply# 1   2/20/2006 at 21:15 (6,639 days old) by appnut (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 111087 , Reply# 3   2/21/2006 at 09:07 (6,638 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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It's has suddenly and quickly become deep winter here. My Hoover TT is in the garage--a summer machine--with a full load of frozen rags and a throw rug; otherwise, i would be more than happy to let you have it till summer, since where ever you live it's balmy enough to dry outdoors. Your experience has a telepathic element with what happened to me while you were tendeing to your dozen percales. The spinner in the Easy has been "stuck" for a few years. No big deal, but the slow build-up of lint in the drain guard, located beneath the spin tub, has impeded the spray rinsing such that I have to stop the rinse until the draining catches up. Out of the blue, thought of using hot white vinegar, Calgon, and tide liquid, and afew gallons of water, then rigged up a hose, set the spinner to drain, and let the water recycle and drain over and over all by itself for about a half hour. The goal was to soften and flush or disolve the lint stuck in the "hole-punch" drain port underneath the spin basket. Miraculously when i allowed the pump to drain rather than recycle, I heard a whoosh of water and air. The VINEGAR had brought about a miracle. THE SPINNER HAD COME UNGLUED. Previously, I had given up, and never considered asking for help on the site because I considered the case hopeless. My friend Reno's father once hoisted and hung an Easy from the spinner with a thick leather strap over the rafters in the basement . He left it there for days; still, the spinner did not budge. The old repair men I know said that once a spinner gets stuck that long, you're screwed. You'll have to saw it out. Imagine, we were both vinegaring in our Twin Tubs at the same time and you sent me a miracle. Michael PS: So telling that the Heavy cycle in the Hoover is only 5 minutes. Does any other washer have a swifter turnerover? Little wonder you flew through those sheets. |
Post# 111092 , Reply# 4   2/21/2006 at 09:23 (6,638 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 111134 , Reply# 6   2/21/2006 at 11:38 (6,638 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Peter--I bet L. changes her sheets every day. Design--Sneak preview of Haier thread: You were hearing perfectly as you watched the Haier video. The spin cycle works like this: a three minute drain, followed by intermittent low speed spins: spins for a few seconds, spin switch disengages, pump stays on (this repeats about five times); next, click and whoosh !!! full speed 800 rmp. It's really cool--exciting and unique. Here's why: The outer tub is really small, so it extracts the water incrementally: spin, drain --spin, drain--spin, drain. That way the pump has a chance to keep up; otherwise the water in the outer tub whirls all over the inner walls, resulting in sudslock. Of course, I skipped the intermittent spin to see what would happen; the whilrling water never reached the drain, leavinf the load wet at the end of the cycle. Quite an advancement--those Chinese are meticulous little thinkers. Thanks for your generous posts. Those TT Threades from a few weeks ago were so satisfying and informative. I love TT's and I hope you get an Easy spindrier some day. She is the uber, earth mother of all TT's. |
Post# 111172 , Reply# 7   2/21/2006 at 14:19 (6,638 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 111205 , Reply# 8   2/21/2006 at 16:02 (6,638 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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While slightly larger than my normal linen wash day load, yes, do tend to change bed linens at least once a day or every other day. Just prefer clean sheets, and it also prevents white bed linens from turning yellow. Mike, glad you were able to get your Easy TT working, vinegar is truly a miracle substance to have around the house, wouldn't be without it. Work out for the Hoover TT? What about poor me? *LOL* Took ages to get my hearing back after 2 hours with the Hoover, and was that knackered from laundering slept like a rock. *LOL* Do not think twin tubs like the Hoover will make a come back for several reasons. First unless one reuses the wash water for more than one wash, the unit is not very water efficient. Of course water consumption can be reduced by doing only spin rinses,which would help mitigate things. Next, do not think today's housewives/people doing laundry would take well to the concept of semi-automatic washing machines in enough numbers to justify production. Could be wrong as both Danby and Haier seem to sell enough twin tub washers. Finally the washing action of the Hoover is a bit "rough" for delicates and even some men's dress shirts. Stories abound over on Yahoo Hoover TT club about shirts hopelessly damaged or creased by the agressive washing action of the Hoover TT. Mind you one could probably get around this with some creative thinking, like using mesh laundry bags, but still. Finally, finally.. TT washing is not for those who do not like cleaning their floors while doing laundry. It is a very splashy, water filled day at the laundry. Hanging sheets: Actually had to fold sheets in half lengthwise to make all fit on the line. Normally when using the Miele, cycle times are so long that by the time one load finishes washing, the previous one on the line is damp dry. With all 12 plus items ready at once one hardly knew where to begin. When all is said and done, yes a Hoover TT is probably as fast as one is going to get next to an automatic top loader; but quite allot of work for doing laundry. L. |
Post# 111222 , Reply# 9   2/21/2006 at 17:33 (6,638 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Sounds like a fine day was had by machine & operator...nothing like the sound of a Hoover Twinny to get the pulse racing...especially after 2 + hrs....fun to use but not for mass laundry... I read your post and first thought "Are You Craaazzyyy"..with all that percale even I wouldnt cope with that lot and a Hoover Twinny, it would have been straight into the MaytAsko for me, then into the Dryer for 5 mins on hot to drop the creases and line dry till crisp..... Thats the one thing I couldnt cope with in the Hotpoint FilterFlow, have 6 bedrooms and lots of guests and that percale, heavy cotton bedcovers used to float with big bubbles all over the top, even with the filter pan and extra water. Thank goodness for tumblers n twinnies. |
Post# 111228 , Reply# 10   2/21/2006 at 17:54 (6,638 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Was not that bad, actually. One just goes into a "1900 House" mode and gets on with it. As stated previously, the lot went much faster via the Hoover than with a Miele. Percale simply does not absorb much water, therefore small drum washers like a Miele can only hold a certian number of large items like sheets. Overloading simply causes the drum to spin round and round with absolutely no washing action. Oh the Miele will keep trying to add water and such, but the nosies it makes tells one that it is NOT happy and you would be very much better off adjusting the wash load. Like anything else, a little pre-planning goes along way when doing mass loads in the Hoover TT. After setting up the unit and while the tub is filling, I make a long queue of the wash. Sheets are one to a pile and sorted in such a way one merely has to grasp the top in a bunch and the rest balance is free and unfolded. Loading into the wash tub is easy this way as one "drops" the unfurled sheet into the wash tub, shoves it beneath the water and start the timer. If done correctly the wash action will pull the sheet beneath the water, round and round. Soon one has the beautiful sloshing round motion that says the machine is loaded properly and washing fine. When washing is done, I take up the sheet again by grasping either the top or bottm hems to make a bunch, then load into the spin basket lengthwise. This means no knots, or lumps to throw the spin basket off balance. It is almost like heavy rope coils round and round. Oh did I mention used a bit of bluing in the wash baths? Nothing is as wonderful as seeing white linens washing in bluish water. Such fun! L. |
Post# 111308 , Reply# 12   2/22/2006 at 04:36 (6,638 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)   |   | |
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Hello Launderess Do you place the sheets in the washtub and then "Switch On"?? I always switch on first and like you hold the sheet/towel/item at one end and then the "Hoover Boiling Water Action" actually snatches the darn clothing from you with such force that you need to let go of the clothing just before your arm hits the paddle...LOL The older machines like yours has a much stronger wash action than the later machines as yours has the wash motor and belt tensioned tightly, the later machines had the motor floating or hanging on the belt so it tended to wash by load. i.e. slowed down if items bundled together or big loads etc... I like to rinse in the spinner (the first Servis models where best for this as they had a solid spin-can, so you can do an overflow rinse etc, the motors where rated to cope with this.)and then do a final rinse back in the twin tub with conditioner or blueing. One finds with any machine you quickly become used to how it works and adapt your laundry habits accordingly. Mike |
Post# 111388 , Reply# 15   2/22/2006 at 11:12 (6,637 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)   |   | |
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I have lots o' fun with my Fridgette TT and need to post snaps. I have it set up to minimize splash over in our garage. It seems happiest washing tee shirts, tighty whities and gym socks. It does not like dress shirts as they do tangle. I love being able to wash in HOT water with a little bleach at the end. The metal tub really holds the temperature well. I found that I can stick the hose inside the spinner and not have it stop so I am doing a spin rinse (usually do 3 to 4). No gentle action cycle on this baby either - just a timer. Even heavy soil only takes maybe 5 minutes to come out. I like to have a constant "wash/spin rinse/ drain the tub for rinse water/ spin rinse(s) then on with the drying" method like Launderess. Clothes feel drier than from our Frigidaire FL. Don't know the rpm of the Fridgette but it must be more than 900 rpms.
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Post# 111437 , Reply# 16   2/22/2006 at 17:06 (6,637 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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One of the main reasons I wanted my SS tubbed Hoover, was the metal tub is great for soaking. Fill that baby up with warmish or hottish water and with the lid closed it will stay warm for hours. Just the thing for doing long enzyme pre-soaks. Shirts are best done one or two at a time, and if good dress shirts, in a mesh bag to prevent snagging/fraying of cuffs and collars by contact with the impeller. |
Post# 111514 , Reply# 17   2/23/2006 at 05:58 (6,637 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)   |   | |
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Post# 111637 , Reply# 19   2/23/2006 at 19:39 (6,636 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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I can't find them. I just enjoyed them again the other day. One thread had the word Twin Tub in it; the other was called "Another way of washing." Somebody had FIVE !!! different Haier washing machines. Late in the Threads, one of those cool Texans, either Uncle Bobloads or "Dodads" posted videos. They were fascinating. One showed a machine whose tub rotated as it shot aprays of water--four of them criss-crossing the tub; another showed a turn and spray cool-down; finally one ran a spin cycle that really piqued your curiousity. You thought you "heard" the spinning being interrupted. And so it was. I have the machine, a small portable, the 22C, which I have used exclusively since Martin L. King Day, because I like it so much, hearing all of its hums and clicks, right in the kitchen hooked up to the wet bar, washing just like my ancestors did.
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Post# 111821 , Reply# 22   2/24/2006 at 16:03 (6,635 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 112396 , Reply# 26   2/27/2006 at 16:35 (6,632 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)   |   | |
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Post# 112407 , Reply# 27   2/27/2006 at 17:47 (6,632 days old) by laundryboy (Orlando Florida & Moravia NY. )   |   | |
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Post# 112414 , Reply# 28   2/27/2006 at 18:18 (6,632 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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