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Anyone bought a Speed Queen lately? |
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Post# 740794 , Reply# 3   3/9/2014 at 20:38 (3,700 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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My AWN542 is going on five years strong, my mother has one and so does my brother. My brother within the last few months..no grease issues. Mike |
Post# 740843 , Reply# 5   3/10/2014 at 02:21 (3,700 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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Are you sure that you can buy STPP at Home Depot or Lowes? All I have ever seen there is TSP and that's not the same. Usually to get STPP you have to mail order it. |
Post# 740854 , Reply# 6   3/10/2014 at 05:48 (3,700 days old) by alineber ()   |   | |
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You are correct it's TSP that Home Depot and Lowes sells. The STPP, I have, was ordered from soapgoods.com. Thanks for catching that mistake. Allen |
Post# 740869 , Reply# 8   3/10/2014 at 07:17 (3,700 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 740882 , Reply# 10   3/10/2014 at 08:45 (3,700 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Go safely for a good topload washer ie real washer and of course Speed Queen , you already opted yourself for the top available today, it surely is the only modern brand able to give real clean result and reliability!
And it is MADE IN USA! otherwise there is always vintage market....but if you want a brand new one, go speed queen for sure! here is my suggestion. This post was last edited 03/10/2014 at 09:53 |
Post# 740888 , Reply# 11   3/10/2014 at 09:47 (3,700 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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You will not regret your purchase of a Speed Queen. |
Post# 740927 , Reply# 13   3/10/2014 at 14:42 (3,699 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 740994 , Reply# 14   3/10/2014 at 18:22 (3,699 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)   |   | |
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GOOD DEAL, NOT FAR FROM ME EITHER! WTH??? HOW DO YOU MAKE A $1700 MISTAKE?? MIKE |
Post# 741363 , Reply# 17   3/12/2014 at 14:47 (3,697 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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I think you will to. I bought on a few months ago and so far it has out performed my expectations of a modern top loader. Its very smooth running and everything comes out exceptionally clean. For the power they have the agitator is surprisingly delicate. I notice far less linting in the dryer, comparable actually to that of a Maytag helical washer. Nothing gets torn or snagged like with the Dual action agitator in the Direct drive.
I did not notice any grease or rough spots when the machine was delivered. There is a weld seam in the tub, but was smooth in mine. Being honest the machine on the sales floor was a different story, the weld in the tub was very rough, but it was an earlier made machine since it has been sitting on the sales floor for 2 years now.
I do agree that some water gets trapped in the upper lip of the spin basket that comes down when the spinning stops, but IMO its a small amount. I haven't had issues in mine with it. The spin drain pushes the clothes gently and evenly up against the tub, so they come out better than all scrunched up in the DD. Im glad I gave away the DD, DD never have been top performers in my mind. Not awful, but they just don't come close to a Speed Queen.
The timer as a whole is not cheap in my opinion. The know does have a rickety feel to it, however, behind it is a very good quality mechanical timer with a really good terminal connector block. The timer is no joke I will say that, its very similar in design to what the washers had 15 years ago before they went with those infamous plastic case timers. The timer itself also turns and has sharp clean electrical contact clicks while advancing, no lazy or slow switching. No sputtering of the motor coming on or shutting down like with some plastic case timer machines Ive used.
The belt does leave a lot of shavings in the cabinet, a lot in my machine. However, I noticed mine had a Goodyear belt, which I would think is a quality belt over the no name Chinese belts. Even if the belt does burn up or become weak, its easy to change. Id rather the belt be the weak link then the transmission.
So far Im in love with what I using, and this comes from a harsh washer critic LOL. Buy now before its to late. Im glad I did. :D |
Post# 742487 , Reply# 31   3/16/2014 at 18:31 (3,693 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Where was it stated that Miele was/is junk? |
Post# 742491 , Reply# 32   3/16/2014 at 18:43 (3,693 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)   |   | |
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there was a way you could 'block' certain people on this site where you don't have to read their posts and propaganda...just like you can on Facebook or other sites...just like I've already done to one person at least on the autowasher.org friends page...
I think I might put the suggestion to Robert. Leon |
Post# 742497 , Reply# 34   3/16/2014 at 19:02 (3,693 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 742505 , Reply# 35   3/16/2014 at 19:18 (3,693 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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:) |
Post# 742518 , Reply# 36   3/16/2014 at 19:48 (3,693 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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I do not really want to start another FL vs TL thread....
But I can read you say some Inaccuracies...first of all networks and voltage in US does not limit that always, there are models of Miele and Bosch with a built in heater working with 120 volt.... Front load vd top load: I can speak from an italian persepctive, and PERSONALLY having used and seen lots of FL machines with heaters and that can boil, not to mention the US fl's machine whenever they are set up to fill water not hot enough, and can say you here that NONE of them used to give a performance paragonable to a Top loader agitator machine*, both in warm, hot or boil washings and with the so acclaimed staged, hours long cycles. * (accordingly that you use it with proper water temperature so I mean hot enough and proper cycle). Based on my experinces, from what I could see and my way of thought, I think that the method of washing of a front loader cannot be paragonable to an agitator washer in matter of cleaning simply because there is no way that wet clothes tumbling in a drum have the chanche to have washing solution forced into them in a way able to remove dirt and stains as effectively as an agitator washer does by beating clothes through water and having the solution forced through them, freely with a greater force, homogeneity and effectiveness, before you mention time, I say that I think that even if they tumble four hours would probably never get clean enough. I could experiment that also.... When using a front loader I used to extend further the wash time by crank back the knob trying to schieve cleaner results, having wash times as long as 3 hours and half and sometimes with bio soak overnight, but even in those occasions had laundry came out with spots and halos I knew my Filter-flo would have never left back... Can also tell you that it is the same for the many italians that spend fortunes in these machines and find them way better than the previous FL machine they had including former Miele owners, what I can read and hear most of the times is that people can finally achieve the results without the usual pretreatring and or manual prewash soak they always had to do before (practice very common over here since the advent of automstics, , that me indeed of course never had the need to do, toss in and dah dah...clean!) So, very different from you.... So here is the thing, since it all started from it: Out there there are lots of people who don't find front loaders being as good as toploaders, and you can read it in many reviews, the same way there are people who find them better than their previous top loader... So who's right? None you can tell, unless you start an endless speech taking in exam lots of variants that made them to arrive to this conclusion, it would really be nice if we would do further investigations in both the cases and do a factual speech, like the former top loader owner that loves his new heating front loader, well perhaps that one could not reach an enough hot temperature and then he comes to find the front loader better as it finally reach a proper temperature heating his own water... Then there are the ones that regrets having their old top loader back after having bought a new front loader and share their fond hate toward front loaders, HE and such... Lots of other variants can make one's opinion.... As for everything, the best one could do, is sharing his own opinions and findings based on own experiences or ones he knows of....especially in threads requesting an opinion like this one. Nobody is wrong or right, so if one finds that front loaders sucks compared to top loaders should be free to say so without objections, the same way who thinks otherwise.... Let's just don't start wars over it...... This post was last edited 03/17/2014 at 00:34 |
Post# 742554 , Reply# 39   3/16/2014 at 21:25 (3,693 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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Merely setting the record straight and correcting misconceptions people seem to have.
Do not want to sound like a bitch.. BUT Are you really sure you have that much of power or authority to determine whatever needs to be "corrected"? Don't take this for bad...please... I have seen you " correcting" " many things that could be called anything but opinable sentences or Ie "opinions"..... that really does not need to be corrected simply because they ain't right nor wrong... As for the ones of yours..... I think no one fears the truth here, because no one can say to be the TRUTH IN PERSON, one can just say what are their findings snd accept whatever are differents thoughts and opinions and take them for what they're are, some sentences I have seen in your posts indeed sounded like decrees/ verdicts.. No one here can say to have the suthority or power to do that as we still are in a democratical country and forum.... But perhaps it is me seing ot that way.... |
Post# 742558 , Reply# 40   3/16/2014 at 21:33 (3,693 days old) by chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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US power availability does limit the front load built in heater market. How and why we choose to run home branch circuits at 120 still blows my mind. In this day and age no justification exists.
Most front loaders are shipped with a NEMA 5-15 plug which only gives 1800 watts max. Most heaters end up being about 1000 to 1200 watts. About 300 to 400 watts are left over for the motor since tumble and heat is needed. While 1000 watts will still heat the water it takes a lot of time, and from cold to a boil wash that can take over an hour alone for the wash. Compact machines none to bad, but give them a full size and consumers will be asking why. A Euro plug on the other hand can pull 13 or 16 amps at 230 volts. 3000 watts to 3700 watts of available power. A euro washer can easily be equipped with a 2000 to 3000 watt heater, in this example will say 2500 watts. That's 2 and 1/2 times more heating power which makes the consumer happier. Most euro machines are more leaning toward compact, so it adds to the time reduction even more. However, if we wanted to get similar results in our full size front loads I would estimate about a 3500 to 4200 watts of heating power would be needed. The good news for us: literally 96% of houses can get 4800 watts of power at their washer outlets without upgrading any wiring. The NEC has required for decades a dedicated 20 amp 12 gauge circuit be run to the laundry area for the washer. 96% of houses have a dedicated number 12 from the panel to the washer's receptacle. By code that circuit cant leave the laundry area, and technically cant be run to any light fixtures. All one needs to do is swap the single pole breaker to a double and change the outlet to a NEMA 6-20r. Presto 4800 watts of power. Appliance makers can then add NEMA 6-20p plugs to washers and in turn stronger heaters. Imagine a Duet with a 4500 watt heater :D Major time savings on a sani wash. Bosch btw has a neat trick up its sleeve. Some of their home dryers for the US market plug into a standard 240 volt 30 amp dryer circuit. A 15 amp 240 volt plug is provided at the back of the dryer for a 240 volt front load with heater. But if one wanted just the washer they could do the above mentioned too. IMO, a front load with no heater is half a washer. |
Post# 742566 , Reply# 42   3/16/2014 at 22:32 (3,693 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza Piemonte, Italy- Soon to be US immigrant.)   |   | |
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No you're not hypocrite....I think all have understand your points and your ideas, that's what matters... Just let to the readers determine iwhatever you say is, according to each one of them, unless they're factual things, opinions can be agreed or disagreed, partially or wholly, but never and say never universally right nor wrong, nor in need of corrections , just limit to say your opinions and let them be what they're, not corrections or verdicts, but opinIons...
Just to make an example... You jumped out from the sentence about having to wash twice with frontloaders (not washing well) , you assumed immediately that It was fault of US ones not heating water, started shooting verdicts and kept saying at how shit they are because of this, kinda sanctifying Miele or european ones, how did you know he was referring and talking of a US non heating front loader and never tried also one with an heater? As you can see I feel exactly the same about the ones that heat.... And do not let me speak about ones that don't... You give fault to this and wash times, but what about if others reasons other than wash temperatures and or times were involved in the fact that so many people in the US and the poster don't find FL as good as top loaders agitators? You see.... What about if an american indeed would say: " eh I think now in OZ they find these front loader better for a simple reason, I find their top loaders to be crappy toys like machines, , that generally does not have a good agitation, so it's natural there they like 'em so much than they do over here"... That's an example..... What about if one would say so? That would be an opinion, if starting with "I think", different is if it mentioned like a fact, judgment and or verdict stating it as an untouchable truth as some of your lines appers to be,I think that if a reader is smart wold look up himself after this and determine whenever having to agree or disagree....but never say "you're wrong"-"it is not so" as a matter of fact. His words versus yours....who will win....nobody, nonody will be right or wrong. Again, the way you came up sounded a bit pretentious and Judgmental.....at least to me....let opinions be what they're... Have a good night to all... This post was last edited 03/17/2014 at 00:50 |