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Post# 744056   3/22/2014 at 07:27 (1,550 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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Thought I'd share this with you. Some Beautiful new LG washing machines launching in Europe soon.
They'll have NFC downloadable programs and 'Turbo wash' plus other things.

But what I like most is the new look. Very modern, (they look like the Grundig machines) but also reminds me of the Hoover Computer logic.


Post# 744057 , Reply# 1   3/22/2014 at 07:28 (1,550 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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another view

Post# 744058 , Reply# 2   3/22/2014 at 07:28 (1,550 days old) by l86810 (Southend, UK)        

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the range...

Post# 744065 , Reply# 3   3/22/2014 at 08:13 (1,550 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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They look like V-Zug clones to me.


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Post# 744075 , Reply# 4   3/22/2014 at 08:53 (1,550 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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Oh, I really like the look of these although I do wish they didn't have smoked glass.

Post# 744102 , Reply# 5   3/22/2014 at 10:03 (1,550 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Where are you always getting this info from? :)

Nice to see that TurboWash is coming to our shores. I'm sure it'll be better than Miele's QuickPowerWash.

NFC technology is also available on LGs newest US washers such as the WM8500:

Post# 744143 , Reply# 6   3/22/2014 at 12:18 (1,549 days old) by electron1100 (England)        

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Does NFC ironically stand for No *ucking Control LOL :-)

Post# 744229 , Reply# 7   3/22/2014 at 18:00 (1,549 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.)        
1980s aeg

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As an L.G. owner,user myself im not to keen on the styling.The facia panel is more reminisant of a 1980s AEG,where the contours of the facia dont match the rest of the machine.I hope the they reintroduce the 30c wash proramme instead of replacing it with 20c wash as on current models.Pesky EEC.Rant over,Nige.

Post# 744232 , Reply# 8   3/22/2014 at 18:14 (1,549 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
I don't care what it looks like

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whats more of concern to me is do they actually work? Sadly LG seem to think if it looks good on the outside it is ok.

LG have to go a long way to impress this old laundry Queen I will not be parting with my 14 yr old AEG for all the tea in China/Korea....:o)


Post# 744234 , Reply# 9   3/22/2014 at 18:25 (1,549 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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I don't think the 30 degrees cycle has been replaced by a 20 degrees one. In the picture it's on the 20 degrees setting, that's all. The 40 and 60 degrees symbols are for the energy saving cycles.

I like the design. They look indeed a bit like V-Zug, with the slanted control panel.

Post# 744265 , Reply# 10   3/22/2014 at 21:00 (1,549 days old) by imperial70 (******)        
smoked glass: one wonders...

Is the smoked glass aesthetic or is there a functional purpose for it?

Post# 744356 , Reply# 11   3/23/2014 at 08:04 (1,549 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
LG seem to think if it looks good on the outside it is ok

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All they are aiming to do is get the product into as many homes as possible. Unfortunately, many consumers purchase a product based on its looks alone.


Post# 744376 , Reply# 12   3/23/2014 at 08:40 (1,549 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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These are nice looking - sleek and simple appearance.  Hopefully, we will evolve past the baffling need for ticky-tacky plastic knobs soon.

Post# 744468 , Reply# 13   3/23/2014 at 13:26 (1,548 days old) by nrones (-)        
My smoked glass theory

I think manufacturers are putting smoked glass on washers so when people open the door they feel their gray whites are whiter after those super quick cold cycles.

Plus they've become uniformed... Panasonic, Samsung, LG, Hotpoint coming on May have smoked glass door and chrome lack of creativity

Post# 744550 , Reply# 14   3/23/2014 at 17:22 (1,548 days old) by washer111 ()        

As I said on the thread about "Doomsday" for Windows XP, beauty is only skin-deep.

Functionality is what you need, but unfortunately these machines probably won't have that and the consumers who purchase them will turn into winging masses as they realise they bought a singing, plastic piece of crap. 


I seriously hope these machines can actually clean the clothes, and LG/Samsung etc. are developing technologies that set them apart from the rest. 

Post# 744783 , Reply# 15   3/24/2014 at 13:33 (1,547 days old) by elie55121 (Lebanon)        
Deja Vu

LG's new washers are Deja Vu to me and I call them copy paste from other brands' ideas. I personally like the washers way before the 6 motions one like the LG WD14331ADK

Post# 744805 , Reply# 16   3/24/2014 at 15:59 (1,547 days old) by washman (Butler, PA)        

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that control panel looks like it could launch a rocket into space. And what exactly is a medic rinse?

Too much overwrought design and too much of "if two choices are good, then a whole lot more are better!"

Well, at least they got a wash cycle pegged under 1 hour. 59 minutes to be exact. Still can't beat a run of the mill TL machine time wise.

Post# 744905 , Reply# 17   3/24/2014 at 20:38 (1,547 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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I think the washer looks like one of these rounded cube speakers that you can get from Apple etc. with a large smart phone as a control panel attached to it. The reason I have to think of a phone is because most of them have chrome trims around them these days.

What usually consumes a lot of time is water heating. The large US washers by LG take slightly over 30 minutes (with TurboWash) to do a wash, spray rinse, deep rinse and two more spray rinses during the final spin. They fill with warm water, though, so the detergent is immediately active and water heating may be skipped. The European version has to heat it's water from cold and this takes some time even at 2000 watts. I wish more washers over here would have hot/cold fill - it's such a grat time-saver, I think.

Medic Rinse heats the last rinse to 104F.

Post# 745086 , Reply# 18   3/25/2014 at 16:19 (1,546 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.)        
I fear 20c is the new 30c

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I fear were being forced to use low wash temperatures in the U.K ,i have installed several new L.G. washers lately including one today and all of them had a 20c 40c 60c 90c wash but no 30c wash.Personally i would choose to wash at 40c rather than drop to 20c,after all i pay my electricity bill.Found this article that explains the situation very well .Makes an interesting read.I will be interested to see the new range of L.G.washers in the metal, so until then i will reserve judgment. Regards Nige.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO reversomatic's LINK

Post# 745087 , Reply# 19   3/25/2014 at 16:34 (1,546 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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I'd love to see a manual!

Post# 745126 , Reply# 20   3/25/2014 at 18:25 (1,546 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
@ reversomatic

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About the loss of the 30 degree wash... I was saddened by the loss of this temperature, and when I purchased the Hoover Dynamic, I was fully aware I had to give it up (although I didn't really give it up cos' I used it in the other washer).

Having said that, I've made a discovery only recently and now I know that the 30 degree wash... and the 50, haven't been lost. I'm not sure whether it would be the same on the LG, but on the Hoover, on a standard cotton program, by choosing the lowest level of dirt and without selecting any option, it would do a 30/50 degree wash on Cotton 40 and 60. To obtain 40 and 60 with the minimum soil level, one has to use a function called 'Stain Blaster'.

I've only recently been paying attentian to the actual temperature of the wash cycle, so I'm not sure whether this applies to the other levels of dirt (3 levels altogether), but I'll find out sooner or later ;-)

Post# 745267 , Reply# 21   3/26/2014 at 06:50 (1,546 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
The Loss of 30C, and temperature reduction..

Its all because the some silly rules came out saying all machines must have a 20C option.

Meanwhile, on 60 & 40 cycles we're seeing what the states are seeing - dumbing down the temperature of the cycle, so that the manufacturers can claim there machine is more efficient, and the Energy label allows this. (for instance in Germany, a Bosch Ecostar washer (rated A+++-50% think the website says) [thats A-80% or A++++++++] with Eco perfect takes a whopping 6hrs on cottons 60, the reason, its only a 30C cycle, and has to spend all that time washing clothes just to get the same results as a 60 wash).
If you ask me some manufacturers make such bold claims and such long wash times, it'll soon be more expensive due to the longer cycle duration?

On my hotpoint when the programme dial is on no 3, and 60C is selected on the small temp dial, the machine [according to which] heats only to 49C. however selecting 50C will heat to 50C, thats 1Degrees hotter? [you can get a full temp wash by choosing superwash, or prog 2, prog 6].
I Presume all machines, which don't have an eco/energy reduced function, will do this - Hoover, Candy, Indesit, some Zanussi.

Back to topic - I prefer the new Samsung over this, the door looks terrible, and control panel to me seems a step backwards.

Post# 745461 , Reply# 22   3/27/2014 at 04:40 (1,545 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
Just probed it with a digital thermometer...

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I just used a cotton 40 cycle with the minimal level of dirt, after the machine finished heating I touched the glass and as usual on this cycle, it didn't feel as warm as i'd normally do when the Stain Blaster option is selected. So, I paused the washer, opened the door and stuck a digital thermometer at the bottom of the wet laundry: this read 35.7 degrees! So, that's it, a Cotton 40 is really a Cotton 35. I'm ok with this though, I think it's safe enough to use 35 even on garments with a wash label that indicates to wash at 30. Now I wonder if Cotton 20 becomes Cotton 25 with the Stain Blaster... I guess I'll have to try that!

What annoys me though is the fact that the manufacturer doesn't make any of these things clear on the manual... why should I have to test and experiment everything in order to find out how the machine really works? I doubt any of the average washing machine user would give the washer the time of day to try a thermometer inside the washer: I must admit this is a tad frustrating!

Post# 745580 , Reply# 23   3/27/2014 at 16:39 (1,544 days old) by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Hoover's misleading temperatures

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I see they are using a reversed intuitive process now. And they're all at it.

In the days of the Ecologics and New Waves, the programme temperature was as stated, eg. 60 degrees C. If you selected the 60 deg C programme and pressed the Economy option, the wash temperature was reduced by about 10 degrees, i.e. 50 deg C.

Similarly, Zanussi IZ Jetsystem from 2001, wash time equalled about 2 hrs 10. Time Reducer option cut that down to about an hour.

Now, the machines (such as a 2006 Bosch and 2009 Panasonic) default to the speedier cycles. You now have to choose the intensive / wash plus option.

Post# 745925 , Reply# 24   3/28/2014 at 20:30 (1,543 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        

Why do I need my smartphone to wash clothes? I don't have the time to play around with cycles and downloads and all this pointless info-tech nonsense. People have lost the plot.

Post# 766647 , Reply# 25   6/29/2014 at 07:41 (1,451 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
Now on LG's UK website

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Post# 766655 , Reply# 26   6/29/2014 at 08:39 (1,451 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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The bath and shower analogy was used by Zanussi when they first introduced the Jetsystem in the late 80's

I do like these LG's but one rinse in a F/L? no thanks.

Post# 766656 , Reply# 27   6/29/2014 at 08:42 (1,451 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

I love the look of the control panel, glassy and sleek!

What does the -40% mean after the A+++ energy rating?

Post# 766678 , Reply# 28   6/29/2014 at 09:55 (1,451 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Originally, the energy efficiency scale went from G to A. With appliances becoming more efficient, plusses were added to A. This machine is 40% more efficient than A+++. It's really getting ridiculous.


If you look at the control panel, the Cotton Large cycle, along with the 40° and 60° temps, have a little symbol next to them. Selecting that cycle with either temperature will get you a super-efficient wash. Any other combination will run a normal (non-eco) cycle.

Post# 766939 , Reply# 29   6/30/2014 at 14:00 (1,449 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

is basically 40% more efficient than A+++ model - so its A+++++++ or A-70%The downside - washing in this mode takes about 6hrs, the good news though, is significant energy saving.
Bosch sell an A+++-50% in Germany, and apparently thats an 8hr cycle.

Post# 766942 , Reply# 30   6/30/2014 at 14:28 (1,449 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        
The Bosch...

... was the 6h I thought... The A+++ cycles were 4h, some A+++ -35% either, and some others hit close to Bosch. But I never heared of an 8h cycle...

Post# 766947 , Reply# 31   6/30/2014 at 14:40 (1,449 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        

Bit more than 6h. 6 , to be exactly.
Anyway, the full 60 load uses only 0,38 kWh, while the half load takes 0,41 kWh, so 30W more. That is something about 1/13 more, being half a load. And the 40 cycle uses the same water, energy and time.

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Post# 767173 , Reply# 32   7/1/2014 at 05:33 (1,449 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        
Long time anyway

Well what ever it is, is too long for me, 3hrs is good, more though, and it's too long!

Post# 767276 , Reply# 33   7/1/2014 at 15:23 (1,448 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA)        

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Standard Cotton Program at 60 C takes SIX AND A HALF HOURS?!


Post# 767278 , Reply# 34   7/1/2014 at 15:31 (1,448 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
at 60C

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It doesn't heat up to that temp, though - more like 30C or 85F in order to get the energy rating. Hitting the Speed button takes five and a half hours off the cycle.


I have never used the Eco cycle on either my washer or dishwasher. It's there to get the rating but I don't have to use it.

Post# 767283 , Reply# 35   7/1/2014 at 15:48 (1,448 days old) by frontloaderfan (Merrimac valley, MA)        

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Aha, that makes more sense. I really can't imagine anyone who would actually use that feature, except, of course, in Europe where electricity is more expensive than here in the US. Perhaps some American mother Earth type who doesn't mind taking an entire day to wash a load of laundry.

Post# 767302 , Reply# 36   7/1/2014 at 18:26 (1,448 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

The main problem I see with all these ultra-efficient cycles that take hours and hours to do is that it will increase fabric wear. Particularly when people are buying cheaper clothes which are, obviously, made cheaper than they used to be. I can't imagine some cheap t-shirts surviving more than a few of those long long cycles before going all bobbly or coming apart.

Back on topic of these LGs - I'm not impressed with the 1 hour cycle. My 7kg Electrolux-made machine can do a 40 or 60 cotton cycle with wash, three rinses and a fast spin in about 1h05 using the quick wash & extra rinse option, or slightly less for 2. So, not impressed with only one rinse on these ones. Why do LG think people will be happy with only one?

Post# 767306 , Reply# 37   7/1/2014 at 18:40 (1,448 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Well, the idea is to run a load while you're at work or at night. Few people have a "laundry day" over here - I think - so long cycles don't bother us that much. I have a laundry day so I'd welcome that Turbo Washer (if it wasn't by LG).

Post# 767310 , Reply# 38   7/1/2014 at 18:49 (1,448 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
@ dascot

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Well, they are replacing one rinse with with two minutes of showering the clothes with fresh water while spinning it out simultaneously. We'll see how well that works.

Post# 767318 , Reply# 39   7/1/2014 at 19:14 (1,448 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        

Hmm, I'm not convinced that'll work particularly well, but we'll see.

I wonder if these LGs will let you add rinses to a quick cycle, I know some of the older ones wouldn't.

Post# 767338 , Reply# 40   7/1/2014 at 21:48 (1,448 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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According to the manual (link below), every cycle allows Rinse+ to be added and some also allow the 40C Medic Rinse.

Post# 767424 , Reply# 41   7/2/2014 at 11:55 (1,447 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
6 + hours for a cycle is crazy.

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If this is where technology is taking us then I am going to stay in the stone age and keep my AEG 88840 going for as long as I can.

I can kind of see how they increase the length of the wash to compensate for lack of temperature but honestly is it really going to come out that clean? After all if I wanted to take that long to wash whites etc I can soak them in a bucket over night and that uses even less energy!!!

So yah boo LG I am keeping my 10 year old washer that still is as good and clean as it was when new and you can keep your 1 rinse express wash this old AEG has double the time save as you can press it twice but to be honest I have never bothered with it as I like my things to be washed and rinsed thoroughly and if I get a mountain of laundry I can always pull up a twin tub...


Post# 767433 , Reply# 42   7/2/2014 at 12:39 (1,447 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        

Tested our Bauknechts 4h cycle at 60 (reaching only A+++), and I have to say, I am impressed. I ran the other part of the bedding through the AEG 60 shortend to 2:10, dried it and just 10 min later, the Bauknecht cycle completed. Used intensive rinse, but it really washed well. It started with 1h cold wash, than a 45min enzyme stage (35 peak) and than reheated to 50 I think and had about an hour main wash left. The bedding felt just as clean, if not cleaner that the AEG load.

Post# 767464 , Reply# 43   7/2/2014 at 15:13 (1,447 days old) by BEHZAD (Home Appliances Lab)        

I hate LG,but these look good
also designed in Korean style like Samsung.far away from German and US products.

Post# 909245 , Reply# 44   12/1/2016 at 14:05 (564 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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LG is my absolute favorite brand of new appliances. I have and had both types of washers and those I sold have yet to brake down. Those I kept also have no issues. They look great,work great and are lots of fun to watch. Great customer service and great frequency of repair records.

Post# 912953 , Reply# 45   12/28/2016 at 23:16 (537 days old) by gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Au)        

What I like about LG is they are one of the few cheaper front loaders you can still buy a spider rather than a whole drum assembly. It is often the difference between a viable repair and a scrapped machine.

My everyday use machine is an LG intellowasher, I'd guess about 15 years old by now?? I got it with a broken spider, replaced the spider and fitted new SKF bearings and seal, it has been reliable ever since. Downside - suspension is poorly designed so it jumps forward when out of balance, and it occasionally burps water through the dispenser drawer, a known issue with the model due to inadequate drum ventilation during fill. I have made the official modification but it still happens sometimes. Still, I like the machine so it remains in use...

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