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Post# 763620   6/14/2014 at 13:23 (3,603 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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Hello to all I would love to have input on the hotpoint top load washer and ge top load washer, (***please note that this thread is not about replacement of my whirlpool duet set as long as they work they will not be replace) but when they do break i went to be ready as the set i have is already 10 years old and went to know the advantages and diffrence {DO NOT MENTION FRONT LOAD WASHERS AS THE NEXT SET I WENT TO BUY WILL BE A GOOD OLD FASHION TOPLOAD WASHER} with matching dryer ge set will be posted in a reply thank you




Post# 763621 , Reply# 1   6/14/2014 at 13:27 (3,603 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
Ge set

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Post# 763625 , Reply# 2   6/14/2014 at 13:49 (3,603 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
Not worth the money

Neither of these is considered a good old fashioned top load washer.
1. Neither fill completely, even on the super fill setting.
2. The Spray Rinse is a complete joke.
3. There is more plastic in these machines than in a dollar store beach toy.
4. Limited warranty, only one year
5. BUY A HUEBSCH INSTEAD!! START SAVING YOUR MONEY NOW.
Mike


Post# 763645 , Reply# 3   6/14/2014 at 15:41 (3,603 days old) by billiedyer1954 (Ohio, USA)        
hotpoint

2 years ago I bought a hotpoint top loader and I got rid of it really quick because it does not spin between the wash and rinse. it pumps the wash water out ,than just fills up with about 6 inches of water and the clothes came out soapy.i believe the g. e. s do the same. I researched washers and found my only choice was speed queen. I gave the hotpoint to my daughter and since I do her laundry I find that I can get a good wash by running each load through 2 cycles. this is a pain in the butt. I cant wait for it to break down so it can be replaced.

Post# 763653 , Reply# 4   6/14/2014 at 15:52 (3,603 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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I think it's pretty safe to say GE and Hotpoint are the same machines under the skin.

 

Personally I would avoid any washing machines from GE/Hotpoint.

 

I agree with Mike, save your money and buy a Huebsch / Speed Queen instead.


Kevin


Post# 763719 , Reply# 5   6/14/2014 at 23:00 (3,603 days old) by washer111 ()        

+1 to SpeedQueen.

 

If you want traditional, old-fashioned washing they ARE (more or less), the ONE and ONLY manufacturer of such machines :)

 

I'm sure if you have any doubts, member 'washman' (Dubbed Patronus absolutus on all things SQ) will chime in with some explaining. 

 

I know you aren't partial to FL machines, but SQ's machines are pretty traditional too - they're quick, rather effective and can have the water level adjusted for better washing/rinsing. They are also highly efficient, and very well built, like the top-loaders. 


Post# 763723 , Reply# 6   6/14/2014 at 23:10 (3,603 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Instead, look into a Whirlpool/Maytag top loading agitator model, but only the ones that have a manual water level selector. They fill all the way up, above the top row of holes, for both wash and rinse as long as you leave the Fabric Softener option turned on. It works -exactly- like a good old fashioned top loader, only with a more energy efficient motor and drive system.

My papaw bought a GE just like the one in the picture. Just as billiedyer said above, it didn't spin after draining the wash water, it only added water, not even enough to cover the agitator vanes on the bottom, splashes around for 5 seconds, then spins and is done. It was disgusting, and when he and my Mamaw started to become ill and we needed clean linens, we chunked that piece of crap and I gave GE a piece of my mind, and vowed to never let one touch my doorstep.

From what I've heard of GE's "HydroWave" agitation, it makes more than a 360 turn, which is too slow to create current to actually move the clothes and instead tangles and twists them. The Whirlpool/Maytag system is roughly a 210 degree arc, and generates great rollover.


Post# 763724 , Reply# 7   6/14/2014 at 23:12 (3,603 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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Not that the other options aren't great as well. The Whirlpool just may be closer to the price range if you're looking at the GE/Hotpoint.

Post# 763752 , Reply# 8   6/15/2014 at 07:08 (3,602 days old) by washman (o)        
Did someone call me?

lol I guess they did!

Yes, agreed with all the above. SQ is the last, and I do mean last, TL machine that operates pretty much like old school Whirlpool, Maytag, et al.

I managed to get 14 years of use from a MOL GE purchased at Mont Wards in 1999. While it was plastic fantastic inside, it did perform well, used plenty of water, and nary a problem until the tub seal leaked and smoked the tranny. It was fixable but the total cost would have been within spittin distance to a new SQ. And mind you, that was just to replaced the tub seal and tranny. Not the motor, pump, or anything else that might go wrong.

That being said, I did take a quick (emphasis on quick) look at "new" GE machines at my local BIG BOX (wards is no more). Suffice it to say, I was not impressed.

Since dad already had a SQ in June of 2013, I took a look. I was sold. Literally.

I attached a youtube vid link of my machine doing a full load of towels. This was before I adjusted the fill control; prior to that, you can hold the fill control to reset to get the water up where it needs to be.

Good luck.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO washman's LINK


Post# 763792 , Reply# 9   6/15/2014 at 10:59 (3,602 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
Thank you for all the info

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Thank you for all the info and input its good to know about whirlpool but call me old fashion but the reason i was asking about the hotpoint top load with power rinse option and ge with power rinse option is because of the good old fashion dial i wish whirlpool could make or sell there new belt drive models with dials like these and if roper washers and dryer still sell in canada with the old fashion pull to start dial they are on my lis

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Post# 763807 , Reply# 10   6/15/2014 at 13:17 (3,602 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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I would love for the new belt-drives to be run on mechanical timers. I imagine though that because of the way the motor system works (ie. the motor and positioning sensor consistently monitor and change the amount of agitation and power so that it gets the same degree of turn regardless of load size) it has to be controlled completely by computer. I'm not too thrilled about it all being electronic because of the track record in the past decade of circuit boards going out, but I'd take this over the HE Cabrio platform any day. The Hotpoint seems to be one of the last with a mechanical dial, but the "Power Rinse" being 6 inches of water is a deal breaker for me. That's how the Power Rinse on my grandfather's worked anyway. Otherwise it just drains after the wash, and spins, spraying a few seconds worth of water, and then it's done.

Post# 763826 , Reply# 11   6/15/2014 at 15:54 (3,602 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
idk why but i kind of like this control panel?

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Post# 763833 , Reply# 12   6/15/2014 at 17:20 (3,602 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)        

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If I were in your shoes I would search high and low around town for an older machine like that in good shape. A KitchenAid Superba or late 90s-early 00s model Frigidaire top load would be my picks. A Whirlpool/Lady Kenmore belt drive would be even better, though it seems parts are getting harder to find and replace. The newer belt-drives are most likely the last breath of good top-loading machines, but as much as I love mine, I know it's not built nearly as solidly as anything from the decade of '95-2005.

Post# 763843 , Reply# 13   6/15/2014 at 17:56 (3,602 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
i think so far and i know its impossible

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I know its impossible if my store retailer could on special order have a true speed queen washer with matching electric dryer i would have special order in my store the speed queen awn 542 washer with matching electric dryer sure there the canadien equivalent but they do not offer the awn 542 model if i look in my regular store they do not even sell all laundry detergent in my local store and other products usaly avalble in the us sigh.

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Post# 764074 , Reply# 14   6/16/2014 at 19:11 (3,601 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        
I own one of the GE washers you are asking about

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This is my first post after reading AW.org for over 2 years. I have owned a GE gwtn2800 with the matching electric dryer for 2 years. I bought this washer after having bad luck with first a new Fridgidaire front load washer (it wouldn't balance to spin throw rugs), I then had Lowes exchange the Fridgidaire set for a Whirlpool Cabrio 5640. These machines were even worse than the Fridgidaire set! The washer constantly became unbalanced whenever I washed towels or levi's. And instead of just signaling the unbalance condition, it would refill with rinse water in an unsuccessful attempt to balance the load. Long story short I put up with these machines for 18 months. It would have been less trouble to use a wringer and far less time. The washer took over 90 mins for complete a load of towels or levi's. After reading on this site I realized that I needed to get away from the new computer controlled machines, if possible. I narrowed my choice to either the Speed Queen AWN412 or the GE gwtn2800. The reason I chose the GE in the end is because it had a larger capacity and Home Depot would deliver, install and take away the old machines at no charge, while the 2 Speed Queen dealers in my area wanted at least $120.00 for this service. I have been VERY pleased with the GE gwtn2800, and here is why.
-It always spins and has never unbalanced
-I can set the water level myself (it doesn't fill past the top 3 lines of holes on Super, but if I hold reset I can fill it to the top) At some point I will probably try to adjust the switch like you can on a Speed Queen.
-When I select hot water, I get HOT water at the same temp that my water heater delivers. I wash most loads in hot water
-It takes about 50 mins. for a complete cycle, on the highest water setting
-I can wash a cal king bedspread or comforter, there may not be a lot of turn over, but they get clean
-I use the power rinse setting always and it fills to whatever water level selection I have made for the rinse, after first going through a complete drain and spin cycle.
-My clothes have not been this clean since I last had a old fashioned, non computer controlled washer.
-The dryer dries most loads completely, when it turns off there are no damp spots, except for extra large items like sofa slipcovers, blankets and bedspreads, that tend to ball up, just redistribute the load a set for a few more mins.
The only thing that I'm not completely happy with is the fabric softener dispenser, it needs to be cleaned frequently, so I just use a Downey Ball instead, problem solved.
I have not regretted my choice of getting the GE. I hope this helps you make a decision


Post# 764079 , Reply# 15   6/16/2014 at 19:31 (3,601 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
it dos thank you

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It do thank you its good to know since my actual set is 10 years old whirlpool duet set and i never know when they could break already the dryer shows signs of failure the auto cycle no longer drys the only cycle that drys is the timed dry cycle but i can dry only small loads at a time if its to big i must restart the dryer so the day they break i went to be ready.


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