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Post# 797038   12/2/2014 at 20:41 (3,441 days old) by Leah9114 ()   |   | |
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Can anyone id this? I've seen similar on Google image searches today, but nothing black/chrome and with the timer/clock in the left corner. Help?
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Post# 797046 , Reply# 2   12/2/2014 at 21:32 (3,441 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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It's a General Electric double-oven model; your model number will be JK 25 or similar. This is an upper-middle-of-the-line unit, with the top oven self-cleaning, and the lower one conventional-clean, meaning that you spray it with oven cleaner and start scrubbing.
Your guess about the age is correct; this is a later-'70s unit. The black finish simulating a top-of-the-line unit's black glass, and the digital clock/timer are the major clues. This is a very solid oven, with excellent temperature control, and great self-cleaning in the top oven. It is far better made and much easier to repair than anything made today. If anything should be wrong with it, we have members here who can advise you. Replacing one of these GE's with anything new would be one of the worst appliance mistakes you could possibly make. Below is an earlier version of your unit, dating from 1971; GE made this oven for a long time, with some updates and changes over the years. You can see the similarity. Your oven was only one model below the top-of-the-line JK 29, which had both top and bottom self-cleaning ovens. Hope this helps. |
Post# 797051 , Reply# 3   12/2/2014 at 22:15 (3,441 days old) by Leah9114 ()   |   | |
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I'm so excited! I love the vintage look of these. Can't wait to try them out. Here is a better picture I cropped from the realty photos. |
Post# 797064 , Reply# 4   12/2/2014 at 23:41 (3,441 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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Post# 797066 , Reply# 5   12/2/2014 at 23:55 (3,441 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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The big mistake would be trading in a robustly-built, conservatively-engineered oven for one that is not so well made and totally dependent on electronic components for all functions.
Control boards in today's ranges and ovens are common failure points; electronics do not take kindly to heat and humidity, both of which ovens produce in abundance. Once a unit is a few years old, the boards may become scarce or discontinued altogether. Most of what is in a vintage GE oven is pretty readily available. What little is not is generally available if you know where to look, like here at AW. |
Post# 797095 , Reply# 6   12/3/2014 at 02:59 (3,441 days old) by NYCWriter ()   |   | |
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... frighten me.
I always feel like I'm just one little short away from the oven turning on when I'm not home ... |
Post# 797123 , Reply# 7   12/3/2014 at 08:05 (3,441 days old) by pulltostart (Mobile, AL)   |   | |
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That painted black finish is not original to the unit ('Onyx' ovens would have had black glass fronts). Apparently the previous owner loved the ovens so much that when they felt the need to 'update' they chose to paint the doors rather than replace the unit. Another indication of how much they loved these ovens.
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Post# 797127 , Reply# 8   12/3/2014 at 08:52 (3,441 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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The big advantage of these ovens over newer ones, in addition to the analog controls, is that the newer ones have those awful concealed bake elements while these older ones have the more efficient and easier to service exposed bake elements. |
Post# 797184 , Reply# 9   12/3/2014 at 14:47 (3,441 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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You'll be glad you did! Here's another pic of an earlier but similar oven that we had brought from Detroit to NY for our retirement home, chosen only because we feel that it's the best electric double wall oven ever made, hands down. My parents had one just like it in green in the late 60s, and it was wonderful to use in every way.
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Post# 797347 , Reply# 11   12/4/2014 at 13:02 (3,440 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)   |   | |
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When did this "electronification" take place? I know around 1992 my mom had to buy a new gas wall oven and it had electronic controls that where "like the IV machines at work"(she was a nurse at the time). When were the latest mechanical control ovens made? And why put the element under the metal, maybe just for looks?
And yes, she has had to have that oven replaced, over $1000 and also electronic controls. |
Post# 797353 , Reply# 12   12/4/2014 at 13:26 (3,440 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)   |   | |
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Electronics were basically a '90s thing. There were some electronic controls earlier, but that's when the switch really got underway. It started out as a high-end technology, but the cheapness of electronics and the dawn of overseas manufacture at bargain labor rates sent it mainstream.
The current fashion for concealed bake elements is nothing new; they've been around for over 50 years. Sadly, today's young whippersnapper designers didn't go back and look at any of the previous iterations before trying to foist this bit o'bushwah off on the public again. If they had, they'd have learned that the design makes temperature control more problematic, and promotes rust-out of the oven floor due to condensation. It's just like "bagless" vacuums, which are so heavily promoted nowadays. Anyone who grew up with a dirt bag to empty (like I did) welcomed the advent of disposable paper bags with the keenest of enthusiasm. Now, Corporate America is offering you the chance to pay a lot of money to go back to the Stone Age of vacuuming. I am happy to let Dyson owners get dirt blown back into their faces on breezy days when they empty the "dirt cups" of their overpriced toys. I will continue to pull a sealed disposable bag out of my vintage Electroluxes and throw it away without a single speck getting on me. |
Post# 797415 , Reply# 13   12/4/2014 at 19:00 (3,439 days old) by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)   |   | |
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My sister purchased a GE built-in wall oven (27", standard clean, in Almond) in 1993. It had a standard rotary knob for the controls. I think it was built about the same as the earlier models from 1959 on. A redesign took place a few years later, when manufacturing moved from Louisville to elsewhere. |
Post# 797588 , Reply# 15   12/5/2014 at 20:31 (3,438 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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I guess I'd better be extra careful with my new oven that I installed by myself 2 days ago. I was so proud after I sat on my kitchen floor and pushed it into the cabinet with my feet, especially after I got every excuse imaginable from "friends" on why they couldn't possibly help me ranging from the traditional bad back to something called a torn rotator cuff. This is the first oven I have ever owned with (the dreaded) elements hidden in the walls and floor. It sounds like I will have to be careful with spills which are rare considering what I cook. The instructions say not to put foil or anything else on the oven bottom. So far all I've done is seen how long each oven takes to reach temperature which is several times faster than the Jenn Air unit it replaced.
My last house in San Jose had that same GE double oven pictured above in coppertone. For it's age it was nice but it was nothing special. When you turned it on it got hot. I did like the light grey interior.
it's just for looks, the little toaster oven is for the gourmet stuff
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Post# 797701 , Reply# 17   12/6/2014 at 12:35 (3,438 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 797702 , Reply# 18   12/6/2014 at 12:38 (3,438 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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If you open the door of the oven, there should be a mfg plate with model and serial numbers stamped on it.
This oven does look like an updated version of the P-7 oven, which is an excellent, long lasting design. Instead of a dial clock it looks like it has a clock with number wheels or flippers.
I have 70's vintage 27 inch P-7 wall oven here. It's small but dead reliable. I just wish I had the temp probe and rotisserie hardware (long gone).
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Post# 797751 , Reply# 19   12/6/2014 at 17:25 (3,437 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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You know how some people count pennies, I count kilowatts since just a few can push me into Edison's "platinum tier"...especially when both greedy central air conditioners are sucking up power. The GE double self clean in the San Jose house...I used the clean cycle once in the top oven. The double self-clean Jenn Air that I replaced...used the clean cycle in each oven once in 12 years. Most of what I cook that splatters ends up in the BBQ. I find it easier to maintain my cheapskate status and clean up spills rather than push the clean button. I guess I have turned into my mother. |
Post# 1123689 , Reply# 20   7/19/2021 at 19:23 (1,020 days old) by SvHarlowe (Milton, MA)   |   | |
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GE double oven looking for good home
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Post# 1123723 , Reply# 21   7/20/2021 at 10:14 (1,020 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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