Thread Number: 60513
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Speed Queen wrinkled chothes?!!! |
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Post# 831632 , Reply# 1   7/10/2015 at 07:00 (3,213 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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I will be really interested to see what people say about this. I recently used a Speed Queen TL in California and experienced exactly the same thing as you describe. I think the spin speed of these machines is only 710 RPM but my clothes came out plastered to the side of the drum and wrinkled. However I thought this was typical of all top loaders. It was a commercial machine and only did a spray rinse and therefore only one spin during the entire cycle.
I am presuming that you are used to toploaders. Could you tell us which GE machine you had and which machines you are comparing your Speed Queen to? It’s interesting if you are experiencing this with the Speed Queen but haven’t previously noticed with other machines you have used. I wonder what the difference is and what has changed. I am sure other forum members will be able to help you get the most out of your new machine, which should last you a very long time.
When clothes are spun in my Miele at 1600 RPM, due to the spin profile, they are loose and fluffy in the drum and much, much drier. The clothes came out of the Speed Queen very wet in comparison and I also noticed that as the cycle ended and the brake stopped the drum, a small accumulation of water around the drum’s rim fell onto the clothes creating wet patches. However when they came out of the Speed Queen dryer after 45 minutes on medium they were fine and contained fewer creases than when they come out of my Miele heat-pump dryer. So I was happy with the end result. I selected "hot" which gave a warm wash. The cleaning was fairly adequate with Tide 4-in-1 pacs and I didn’t notice the lack of a deep-fill rinse. I didn’t even notice the absence of fabric softener, which I normally use but couldn’t in this spray-rinse machine. This post was last edited 07/10/2015 at 07:28 |
Post# 831639 , Reply# 2   7/10/2015 at 07:43 (3,213 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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Another thought:
Could it be that the Speed Queen, with its spin drain, causes the clothes to be spread out and plastered all over the drum? Whereas with your GE, if it had a neutral drain, caused the clothes to first fall to the bottom of the drum in a pile together and then commence the spin. Therefore perhaps the clothes in the GE were all spun together towards the bottom of the drum and didn't appear quite so plastered all over the walls of the drum?
What is the end result like after drying? Are you using the same dryer? Do the clothes emerge from the dryer with more wrinkles now or would you say it's pretty much the same as it was with the GE? |
Post# 831640 , Reply# 3   7/10/2015 at 07:44 (3,213 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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first of all.....in a perm press setting, the tub should be only 2/3 filled with clothes, true warm or hot wash, with a cold rinse.....minimal spinning....
if your standing there waiting for the spin to end to remove the clothes, theres a slight advantage to your wait time, and the machine your using......once the tub is empty of water shut the machine off, and remove your clothes.....don't let it run for the whole spin period... I often wondered why my sisters clothes puffed right up after the last spin, then I realized she didn't let it run for the whole time, once the water was finished pumping out, she would push in the knob and remove her clothes... I always find tossing them in the dryer for about 10 minutes removes all the wrinkles from a spin cycle.....whether I hang them outside, or on hangers... |
Post# 831646 , Reply# 4   7/10/2015 at 08:07 (3,213 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 831649 , Reply# 5   7/10/2015 at 08:31 (3,213 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)   |   | |
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The final spin on a Speed Queen top-loader is pretty brief to begin with. In fact, that was one of the minor grumbles I had about the AWN542. I'm not recalling that wrinkling was any worse with the SQ than previous top-loaders I've had. Interesting.
As Mark mentioned, clothes are spun faster than 710 rpm---and several minutes longer---in my Frigidaire front-loader, but the slow fluff-tumble at the end of the cycle helps relax spin-induced wrinkles. |
Post# 831654 , Reply# 6   7/10/2015 at 09:23 (3,212 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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The spins are a bit longer on the latest series of SQ TL machines. Honestly, no top loader I have ever used wrinkles as much as a front loader. Especially the euro-sized machines. Perhaps the hoses got reversed during the original poster's install and spin-sprays and rinses are in hot water? Malcolm |
Post# 831664 , Reply# 9   7/10/2015 at 10:40 (3,212 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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Hi Sam
Thank you for the update. I would be really interested if you could let us know the following:
--Are you using the same dryer as before? --Is the laundry coming out of the dryer more wrinkled than with the GE machine?
My experience is that the Speed Queen TL leaves the clothes plastered to the drum, as flat as a pancake and wrinkled/squashed even with the Speed Queen’s very slow spin of 710 RPM. Whereas my Miele, after its 1600 RPM spin, leaves clothes loosely piled and usually nothing is stuck to the drum.
However, even though they looked terrible when I opened the lid of the Speed Queen, AFTER DRYING, my clothes washed and dried in the Speed Queens emerged with fewer wrinkles than when washed and dried in my Mieles. This could be because the American Speed Queen dryer, with its larger drum, does a better job of removing wrinkles than my Euro Miele dryer with the same sized load of laundry. And/or perhaps even though the laundry appears so squashed from the Speed Queen, the slow spin of 710 RPM doesn't induce any difficult creases. You've made me curious now, so the next couple of loads I wash, I will set my Miele to spin at 700 RPM to see if it has any effect once the laundry emerges from the dryer.
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Post# 831693 , Reply# 12   7/10/2015 at 13:27 (3,212 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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If Extra Rinse is not selected, the timer should stop between the last spin and before the extra rinse section on the dial. The manual can be downloaded from the speed queen website. While 710 RPM is not very fast in the front load marketplace, it is surely faster than the GE machine you have used previously. Malcolm |
Post# 831703 , Reply# 14   7/10/2015 at 14:14 (3,212 days old) by marky_mark (From Liverpool. Now living in Palm Springs and Dublin)   |   | |
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I wonder what the spin speed was on your old GE. Malcolm, what would you say its spin speed was likely to be? The spin speed of the model of GE you mentioned appears to be 700 RPM. Even if your old machine was only 650 RPM or slower, I still wonder if the difference you are seeing is perhaps not because your new Speed Queen spins faster or longer, but more to do with the spin profile or something else.....see the point I made in reply #2 about the neutral versus spin drain.
Still, whatever the reason, it sounds like you are happy with the end result once the laundry comes out of the dryer. I know what you mean about the indentations in the laundry from the holes in the drum -- I've experienced that from a SQ too! All fine after it's been through the dryer. I can certainly understand your WTF reaction at first though!
I hope you enjoy your shiny, new Speed Queen! A very durable machine!
All the best Mark
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Post# 831716 , Reply# 16   7/10/2015 at 15:19 (3,212 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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The timer goes "dead" immediately after the spin when Extra Rinse is not selected. When Extra Rinse is selected, the timer probably needs to advance through one or two increments of what would otherwise be dead "off" space until it gets to the point of filling for the extra rinse ... thus the faint sound of the timer motor running will be audible during that interim. |
Post# 831720 , Reply# 17   7/10/2015 at 15:50 (3,212 days old) by sam042955 ()   |   | |
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Thanks DaDoES. That makes sense. |
Post# 831721 , Reply# 18   7/10/2015 at 15:52 (3,212 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.))   |   | |
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1. When Talking about the extraction value on ANY washer the correct measure is NOT RPM of the cylinder but G-force. AKA the amount of centrifigual force acting on the load being spun.
For example, an 80# Speed Queen washer spinning at 524 RPM exerts a G-force of 140 on the load. By comparison a 120# Speed Queen spinning a 490 RPM also reaches 140 G. The diameter of the drum the load is spinning in AND the RPM determine G-force. 2. Clothes will always be plastered farther up the side of the drum in a thinner layer on a spin drain TL washer. Because the tub starts turning while the clothes are still floating in water they have no time to settle as the machine drains. WK78 |
Post# 831723 , Reply# 19   7/10/2015 at 16:01 (3,212 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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stopping the spin sooner will reduce wrinkling, but also leave more water in the clothes....you have to trade one for the other....
considering your using a dryer, you would want the maximum amount of water extracted, for energy savings...mainly, the dryer it is interesting when you think about it, like in the GE, its a neutral drain, and clothes are compacted towards the bottom, versus a SQ spin drain, where clothes tend to cover the whole basket, creating a thinner clothing wall during spin...I always considered a neutral drain forming a better center of gravity for the machine, but now wondering, does one give a better extraction than the other? |
Post# 831744 , Reply# 21   7/10/2015 at 19:04 (3,212 days old) by maylingsmom ()   |   | |
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I purchased the AWN432 on 3/31. I have never experienced what the op described. |
Post# 831745 , Reply# 22   7/10/2015 at 19:11 (3,212 days old) by maylingsmom ()   |   | |
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I purchased the AWN432 on 3/31. I have never experienced what the op described. I have found that my clothing is less plastered with the SQ than with the GE I had before. |
Post# 831755 , Reply# 23   7/10/2015 at 20:14 (3,212 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 831758 , Reply# 24   7/10/2015 at 20:19 (3,212 days old) by Chetlaham (United States)   |   | |
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Post# 831801 , Reply# 27   7/11/2015 at 01:39 (3,212 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Sounds like typical, and preferable, performance to me. Anytime a load is NOT plastered to the basket and barely damp, it means something didn't go right, whether an imbalance or a malfunction. Every washer I've ever used in my entire life leaves the clothes compressed against the basket walls and if you pull a whole handful away, you'll see where the fabric was against the holes. But, a simple shake of each garment before tossing into the dryer takes care of it. Most front loaders do this automatically by tumbling slowly after the spin, but that isn't possible with a top loader. Now, if your clothes come out of the dryer wrinkled, THAT'S when I'd be concerned.
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