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Has anybody seen or used Dyson FL Washer?
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Post# 125595   4/30/2006 at 14:44 (6,576 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        

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I keep seeing pictures of them on the web and they look way cool. I expect they'll be marketing them in the US soon.




Post# 125602 , Reply# 1   4/30/2006 at 16:00 (6,576 days old) by sadose ()        

I used one for 3 months and they're decent machines but Dyson are slowly but surely discontinuing them. Theyre very poor at rinsing and the dual drum action is only working for a very short period of time, coupled with the fact it is noisy it isnt as good as the manufacturer portrays it to be.

Post# 125833 , Reply# 2   5/1/2006 at 11:31 (6,575 days old) by spinout (Phoenix)        
I wouldn't touch a Dyson anything....

...for their obnoxious advertisements that are an insult to my intelligence.

And not to mention their dubious products. Seems to me Dyson just wants to be Oreck when he grows up!


Post# 126024 , Reply# 3   5/2/2006 at 14:33 (6,574 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Yes, I've seen the Dyson washers

Bajaespuma,

Two Easter Holidays ago I went to London on vacation. Dyson washers and vacuum cleaners were on display in every major appliance store (including Harrod's!). The washers were available in three or four different models, quite distinguishable by the color of their outer plastic parts (bright yellow, lilac, blue, etc.). They all looked awesome, and I really must admit I loved their design!


The sales people were quite enthusiastic with the (new) brand, they even told me about great feedback from users. The washers seemed pretty sturdy machines. IIRC, the price range was rather in the higher end, but not as expensive as the Mieles.

I guess still have a couple of brochures with me, I could mail you one if you send me your address, or scann them and put them up here.


Post# 126026 , Reply# 4   5/2/2006 at 14:39 (6,574 days old) by acerone ()        

Oh yes scan it and put it up.

Post# 126027 , Reply# 5   5/2/2006 at 14:55 (6,574 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Overhere in the Netherlands the Dyson washers were almost twice the price of a Miele. They didn't sell at all, I guess in the UK they hardly sold either. No wonder the production was stopped. There were rumours Dyson would come out with a new model frontloader, but until now no sign of it.

Post# 126029 , Reply# 6   5/2/2006 at 14:56 (6,574 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        

OK, I'm at the office right now, I'll scan the brochure as soon as I get home.

Post# 126049 , Reply# 7   5/2/2006 at 17:52 (6,573 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Dyson Brochure - Cover

OK, here we go with the cover of the Dyson Brochure. Please remember this brochure is at least two years old.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO thor's LINK


Post# 126051 , Reply# 8   5/2/2006 at 17:57 (6,573 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Back of front cover

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Post# 126059 , Reply# 16   5/2/2006 at 18:10 (6,573 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

As many others may see, you can see where Dyson really excels when it comes to marketing :-).

Funny how my AEG and Miele machines can get A-grade washing performance in 63 minutes on the AEG, or 65 minutes on the Miele respectively. Other machines also offer such cycles, with similar running times, high capacities (7kilos), & A grade wash performance at the shorter running time.

To be fair on Dyson, though, they were developed at a time when 5kilo frontloaders still dominated the market, and had 2 hour cycles as standard (although most were reducible to around 1 hour through quick wash options etc). Nowadays standard frontloaders have capacities of up to 7 or 8 kilos, within a standard European cabinet, and have short cycles as standard still maintaining Class A performance. All at a cheaper price.

Jon


Post# 126060 , Reply# 17   5/2/2006 at 18:10 (6,573 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
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Post# 126063 , Reply# 20   5/2/2006 at 18:14 (6,573 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Backcover

Backcover, and that's about it.

Post# 126090 , Reply# 21   5/2/2006 at 20:30 (6,573 days old) by maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Thor- thanks

for posting the brochure.


As for the Dyson washer....Is it a washer, or a MF jukebox?

For those of us used to American TL's, 67 minutes is NOT a "short" cycle!


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 126131 , Reply# 22   5/3/2006 at 01:15 (6,573 days old) by insulinpumpuser ()        
dyson

wouldn't that washer get clothes caught between the 2 drums?.....Bill in Az.....

Post# 126161 , Reply# 23   5/3/2006 at 09:37 (6,573 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you Emilio for sharing the scans!

Post# 126189 , Reply# 24   5/3/2006 at 11:49 (6,573 days old) by designgeek ()        


In all fairness, a lot of us considered it a pretty clever design when it first came out. Dyson is attempting to do things differently, and that always means some things will work and survive, others will drop out due to natural selection in the market. Twenty years from now, the latter will be regarded as rare classics and emblematic of their era.

The criticism I would raise about the Dyson unit is that when you have two drums rotating in opposition to each other, the bearing or wearing surfaces where the drums meet will get double the wear compared to the equivalent surfaces that are not subject to the contra-rotating action. On the other hand, they did claim to have tested the machine to 20 years' usage equivalent, and the concentric aspect of the rear tub half is clever, in that it distributes the stress load rather than concentrating it at the front face of the rear half.

So I guess we'll see how these do over the years.

And in any case, any instance where physical goods are actually being manufactured in the UK or the US is a good thing in this day & age.


Post# 126202 , Reply# 25   5/3/2006 at 13:00 (6,573 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

And in any case, any instance where physical goods are actually being manufactured in the UK or the US is a good thing in this day & age.

Dyson actually uprooted their manufacturing from the UK 3 or 4 years ago now, to a plant in Malaysia. So in essence, not too good.

Jon


Post# 126217 , Reply# 26   5/3/2006 at 14:02 (6,573 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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I thought Mike had one, along with the Titan machine...

Post# 126219 , Reply# 27   5/3/2006 at 14:04 (6,573 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

I thought Dyson was the machine that had the removable plastic drum. Whatever happened to those things?

Post# 126231 , Reply# 28   5/3/2006 at 14:18 (6,573 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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No, the Titon is the one with the removable drum. The Titon was taken off the market too.

Post# 127316 , Reply# 29   5/8/2006 at 01:01 (6,568 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
I would be courious to see one of them in operation!!

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I am always looking on e-bay in the UK and in other places to see what I can learn about their machines and what they do over an extened period of time. One that had caught my eye was the Dyson. With all of the FL washers that we sell here in Oregon( and the state gives you an energy credit on your state income taxes for the purchace of one), why they do not sell them in the US? Does anyone own one that will be willint to post what it looks like to see one of these machines in action? I would think that it would be a real treat.

Post# 127643 , Reply# 30   5/9/2006 at 20:17 (6,566 days old) by kacyc1 (Chico, CA)        
Here's a Link to see them wash

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I was fascinated by the dual tumbler and think it's ashame that they will never be marketed in the US. I actually think that they would have sold well here.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO kacyc1's LINK


Post# 127706 , Reply# 31   5/10/2006 at 03:23 (6,566 days old) by vivalalavatrice ()        
OH! WHAT A TWIST!

I do not want imagine how might clothes are twisted at the end of the wash-cycle!!! Perhaps the rinse cycle (generally with more water) untwists them before the spin, otherwise how many wrinkles :-O

I noticed yet the difference between my FL and my h-axis TL: in the first one I found sheets and bulky items twisted and the end, but the same load in my TL doesn't... maybe I overloaded FL, but don't think so, more probably because in the FL the bottom of the drum rotates and the lid doesn't, while in the TL both of the sides of the drum rotate...

Looking at the video I noticed that clothes don't tumble exactly, but rise external in both sides and fall in the center...

Any way, it's a tumbling wash! And that's all :-)))

Good Bye
Diomede


Post# 127715 , Reply# 32   5/10/2006 at 05:51 (6,566 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

As mentioned before, the Dyson only contrarotates for about 5 or 10 minutes in the wash cycle. During the rest of the wash, and during the rinses, the drums just lock together and tumble like a normal frontloader so I would imagine that clothes wouldn't be too twisted at the end of teh cycle.

Like I said, nice idea, but it's just solving a problem that just isn't there.

Jon



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