Thread Number: 62115
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
2010 cabrio BD |
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Post# 847363 , Reply# 1   10/24/2015 at 15:49 (3,106 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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tried the cabrio and it will hum loudly for a second,then the lid lock and stop lights flash-the hum I think is the motor trying to turn,but though the tub turns freely the motor is disengaged and locked. |
Post# 849012 , Reply# 3   11/1/2015 at 00:25 (3,099 days old) by Murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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I can't speak directly for the belt drive Cabrios, although I do have the direct-drive inverter Cabrio (Bravos XL) with the recirculating pump, and I love it to death. I do also have a Whirlpool WTW4800 in the garage, which is the agitator version and looks just like the older direct drive Whirlpools, except that the drive mechanics are entirely identical to the Cabrio you just acquired. I've never had the slightest problem from that washer, and does a very good job with cleaning, rinsing, and extraction, and because it has a manual water selection and fills to the very top on the Super setting, it's probably the last true conventional washer Whirlpool made.
The control board is the first thing that comes to mind for your machine if the motor turns fine with a direct feed, though I've heard some weird issues with these that end up being the capacitor. I'd imagine the constant reversing of the motor for agitation could be more strenuous on that particular part. I could be wrong though, and there are many here that will know for sure. Good luck :) |
Post# 849079 , Reply# 5   11/1/2015 at 10:29 (3,098 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)   |   | |
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replaced that capacitor and seems all ok now-no flashing lid lock light,and motor silently creeps the tub around at startup-time to get it position for a test wash :)The other capacitors on the circuit board are matsushita brand and look fine. |
Post# 849123 , Reply# 7   11/1/2015 at 16:24 (3,098 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)   |   | |
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Post# 849153 , Reply# 8   11/1/2015 at 18:41 (3,098 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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Awesome!! My only beef with this design of the Cabrio (VMW) is the lack of a recirculator pump. That, and the fact that the motor can't actively sense and adjust each agitate stroke like the inverter motor of the Oasis Cabrios. But all in all they aren't bad machines at all, so long as you follow the user's manual.
A tip from experience, should this become a daily driver: While not entirely necessary, you'll get better rollover if heavy fabrics like jeans and hoodies and whatnot are separated from normal weight clothes. Towels, on the otherhand, are what these machines excel at surprisingly. I think the weight and consistency are what helps them move so freely against the washplate. |
Post# 849167 , Reply# 9   11/1/2015 at 19:32 (3,098 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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have learned with the first generation of Cabrio belt drives has been to pour a gallon of water evenly over the load before starting, it tricks the machine into thinking its a heavier load and adds more water....
the direct drive, for one, incorporates a waterfall sprinkler, but also uses plenty of water.... kudos to Gansky for the vid.... |
Post# 849237 , Reply# 10   11/2/2015 at 07:51 (3,097 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 849248 , Reply# 11   11/2/2015 at 09:10 (3,097 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)   |   | |
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grated, not the best or convenient solution for tricking the washer.....but when you come along with some machines that you cant open up and make an adjustment, sometimes we have no choice....
the general public, probably not, but then again, there are a number of ones looking on YouTube for solutions to getting more water in those machines, just as ones looking to override the lid switch and other features.... sure the manufacturers are making changes for either adding more water, a waterfall, or unique technique for washing in low levels....but for the first generation users who are having concerns, these may be their only choices......not like most can dump 600.00 for another machine, hoping they give better results... just like I had to rig up the Frigidaire with the balloon to add more water, and disconnect the sensor to give a hot wash......the newer ones now added a sprinkler, and heat options, that's great they recognized an issue and corrected it, but what about us who own these older ones....we do what we got to do to get by until it bites the dust.....sad part is, even though it may be a better model, can't say that I would buy it again.... |
Post# 849367 , Reply# 13   11/2/2015 at 20:10 (3,097 days old) by murando531 (Augusta, Georgia - US)   |   | |
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There is no telling what could be lurking behind the scenes left behind by the other user's habits. My advice would be a Clean Cycle or two with bleach, but if the machine were in my hands, I'd search on the backside of the front panel (you may have to dip your head in upside down and look just beyond the top of the tub ring, on the lefthand side of the cabinet) and see if the service diagnostics booklet is still there. In there, you'll find the manual diagnostics sequence, and the instructions on how to manually control every component of the washer at will. If it's not there, I'm sure Google will be the next best thing.
If I recall correctly for that version of Cabrio, if you press any of the buttons, soil level, wash temp, spin speed, etc., in a 1-2-3 fashion, repeating that three times, you should see the control panel light up, and you'll be in service mode. I could be wrong though, because the WTW4800 requires you to turn the cycle dial right-right-right-left-right to enter the mode, and the Bravos XL requires pressing a single button for 3 seconds on, 3 secs. off, three times. All are Whirlpool machines but with slightly different logic boards. At that point, you could manually fill the tub with true hot water up to the top of the basket and turn on the long stroke agitation to stir up the water pretty well without having to get your hands in. As long as you don't let the diag. mode time out on its own (5-10mins I believe), and instead just press and hold Cancel, you should be able to let the machine sit and soak for as long as you want without it performing the "safety drain". Unplugging it could also work, but I'm always leery of just jerking the plug out, considering the electronics on board. |
Post# 850016 , Reply# 14   11/5/2015 at 20:01 (3,094 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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plastic tubs! I'd use some bleach, bleach, and more bleach....and hot hot water....and did I mention bleach? When I rebuilt my sister's GE I dumped a whole bottle of Pine-sol in it with hot water. I had scrubbed it while I had it apart, but it still stunk. It certainly smelled better after the Pine-sol! This post was last edited 11/05/2015 at 20:42 |