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Post# 859107   12/30/2015 at 09:34 (546 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        

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Well after seven weeks of having the hotpoint S line it had to go. Stupidly long wash times. Over sensitive spin and back with a beko.
Beko have got it right with this machine. The pump is quiet. You can virtually hear it. When it's on spin it's a lot quieter and before it finishes the spin to go on to the next rinse it flushes water through from the dispensor while the pump is still on to flush that extra bit of soap out.

So far I'm really impressed with it. I loved my last beko and only got rid as I needed a bigger wash drum. I know a lot of people slate them but personally I think they have got it right on this machine





Post# 859108 , Reply# 1   12/30/2015 at 09:36 (546 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        

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Nice high water levels

Post# 859140 , Reply# 2   12/30/2015 at 14:55 (546 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Congratulations

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On the new machine Rob. To be honest I didn't see you getting on with the Hotpoint. I really like these Beko machines and almost bought the 10kg version but went for a Zanussi Lindo at the last minute. It's reassuring to hear that the pumps are quiet on these. The only Beko machines I've seen in operation seemed to have quite loud pumps and as we are open plan I wanted a machine that I knew had a quietish pump. Having said that I really like the Lindo. It does have some very long cycles but I use the "finish in" function so the washer is finishing either when I get up or get in from work, it's far more intuitive that a normal delay start. My sister got the older style Beko 8kg machine and is very impressed. I'd definitely consider a Beko for my next machine. I look forward to hearing, and seeing, more about your new machine

Post# 859145 , Reply# 3   12/30/2015 at 15:48 (546 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        

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Cheer's....
Well so far I've done four loads. I'm not open plan but I live in a two bed semi and all my doors are always open. I had to check to make sure the machine was on earlier it really is that quiet. Even on full spin speed it's pretty quiet. My last beko was excellent but the pump was awful. Really noisy. This one is whisper quiet. The quick 30 degree wash has been reduced to 28minutes. Not that I would use that except for maybe jeans
I hated the hotpoint. My miele is in thethe summer house waiting on a a replacement spider so hopefully that will be my second machine in spring


Post# 859233 , Reply# 4   12/31/2015 at 05:27 (545 days old) by Adamthemieleman (York)        

I wondered what had happened to the Miele. I never thought I'd live the day to say, but Beko is starting to pleasantly surprise me, yes they've had a bad past but the new stuff is good and if not better than long established competitors. I look at the Grundig machines and would gladly take one over a nasty Chinese made Hoover, given that there isn't much difference in cost

Post# 859244 , Reply# 5   12/31/2015 at 06:49 (545 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        
Adam

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Yes the miele has been stripped and cleaned. I've had the pressure washer on the spider and it came back to black. You could actually smell the washing powder. Think Ariel. All the parts have had a good soak and wash and even though the spider would probably last a while I'm one of those people who do it right first time and hopefully have no issues in the near future.
The beko was on sale for 179.00 it's 8kg
Which is big enough for the duvets etc. My old beko had major issues with rinsing all the soap out even with extra rinse. This one has no problems at all. For a budget machine it really is good. My fan oven is beko and it's great and my only regret was retiring my old 11 year old hotpoint dishwasher to replace it with a beko one. The wash results are awful. It doesn't like to be filled up. Two thirds full and it's OK but wouldn't buy one again


Post# 859299 , Reply# 6   12/31/2015 at 13:24 (545 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

Very nice Beko machine. I think Beko are excellent value for money. My Hotpoint Smart 9kg does annoy me with it's very sensitive spins.

Adamthemieleman,

I always wondered about Hoover being made in China after I saw an inlet pipe with a Chinese manufacturers address printed on it when I went to look at a Hoover Dynamic Next in local Currys store. I don't like how they have made their detergent drawers tiny on their latest machines. No logic there. They appear to have a 13kg machine now and the drum in genuinely very large, but all their other 8kg and 9kg machines have a smaller drum that what I've found in Hotpoint/Indesit with same capacity.



Post# 859336 , Reply# 7   12/31/2015 at 17:43 (545 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales)        

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Very nice.
I always find Beko stuff to be pretty good for the money, the Beko dishwasher we bought in summer 2014 has by far been one of the best ones we've had.


Post# 859565 , Reply# 8   1/2/2016 at 03:20 (543 days old) by hoovermatic (UK)        
Rinses

Hi there, can I ask, how many rinses does your new Beko do on the standard cycles? I have a Panasonic which I love in almost every respect except that two rinses is standard so if you want three you have to select it. However, if you chose any of the Eco programmes you cannot have three rinses as well - WHICH REALLY IRRITATES ME! I have done some research on other machines, LG & Samsung and it seems that two rinses is the norm on modern machines now. Is this the same with Beko?

Post# 859574 , Reply# 9   1/2/2016 at 07:07 (543 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        
Rinses

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Hi it does standard 3 deep rinses with the option to do an extra one. In between rinses it flushes some fresh water through to clear any suds before it goes on to the next rinse which is a vast improvement on my previous beko which was awful at rinsing. Even at the end of the programme I would do an extra extra rinse and spin and there would still be suds in the water.

Post# 859579 , Reply# 10   1/2/2016 at 07:22 (543 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        
Some extra features

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This model has the rinse hold feature which you don't really see on many modern machines these days.

Post# 859580 , Reply# 11   1/2/2016 at 07:24 (543 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        
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The easy care drum. Another thing I like about this machine is the door opens fully which is great for me as it's in an awkward corner of the kitchen

Post# 859646 , Reply# 12   1/2/2016 at 15:46 (543 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

I like how Beko does 3 rinses. I don't get why more manufacturers don't keep to the 3 rinses. I really disliked this on my Hotpoint when I got it but I got used to it now.

Well done on getting a good machine.


Post# 859649 , Reply# 13   1/2/2016 at 16:43 (543 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        

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Thanks
I just really like how they have added a few little extra things that most people wouldn't even notice except us enthusiasts. Lol. It's just finished back to back loads since this morning as Saturday is wash everything day. Duvets dogs blankets and bed towels etc.

So far I'm really happy with it


Post# 859726 , Reply# 14   1/3/2016 at 04:13 (542 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
Not meaning to burst your bubble...

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Hi Robliverpool, I can see that your new Hotpoint turned out to be a fiasco and I'm glad you realised in time to get rid of it: I recently tried one of them myself and I soon sent it packing... in a roundabout way for the same reasons you're giving in your post.

I had a similarly bad experience (or even worse) with a Beko though, it looked identical to this one on the outside (see pic below), but it might have been different from the inside and the way it worked compared to the one you got. It was a 7Kg slim-depth model (50cm deep) and I'd say it was the worst, most inflexible and primitive machine I've used in my life! I used to like the look of it so much, that when I was presented with an offer on this model, I couldn't resist and I sold my Zanussi Lindo to make room for the Beko: that was the biggest mistake I've ever made!

Inflexibility of use and incompatibility of wash functions/options were just some of the limitations of this machine: e.g. the 'Prewash' could not be selected with any other option, I often use this function on other washers for small loads of cleaning cloths and sponges and I typically like to choose a shorter wash time (small loads don't need to be beaten in the drum for hours on end) and add some extra rinses as these little loads would be particularly grubby... but this wasn't possible with this Beko. Compared to older Bekos, the main wash phase had been given some thought and criteria (e.g. the machine would tumble immediately while loading water so it would get an adequate amount of water for the size and absorbency of the load inserted in the drum), but when it came to the rinse, the machine would statically load a set quantity of water ignoring any possible load size/type and resulting in a massive waste for a small load which would be swimming in an ocean of water... and barely enough water for a big load which would absorb it and drop its level considerably: I found this totally unacceptable from a washer conceived in 2015... considering that most washers have nowadays evolved to recognise what they have inside and wash/rinse appropriately reaching maximum performance and efficiency. So many other things, no matter how significant they were, made me loathe this machine with a passion... to name but few: the tremendous gap in the spin speed selection, either 800rpm or 1400rpm with nothing in between; all those pre-programmed phases carried out even when not needed resulting in more waste of resources and time (other machines I've tried use an anti-suds phase only when suds are present) and even little annoying things like how accidentally moving the knob during the wash would change the program (unless child lock was used) and end up with a cancelled cycle.

In my case, this machine was sent packing and replaced by the Hotpoint which ended up the same... I now have a Hisense which is far superior in terms of efficiency, flexibility and wash evolution/intelligence... I'd say, in comparison to the first 2 contendants, it's the equivalent of a human being vs a mere machine. Rant over ;)


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Post# 859730 , Reply# 15   1/3/2016 at 04:31 (542 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        

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Hi.
Really sorry to hear you've had a bad experience with your beko. I think at the end of the day it's what features you need in a machine. Where as the hotpoint had a lot of features I wouldn't use that often the beko fits my needs. I tend to do quick hot washes which the beko is ideal for me as it's less than an hour where as with the hotpoint it would be two hours minimum.


Post# 859731 , Reply# 16   1/3/2016 at 05:23 (542 days old) by Haxisfan (Europe - UK / Italy)        
Thanks for your reply and sorry for the rant!

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Yes Rob... the Hotpoint allowed for lots of wash combinations but it would still fail to cover all scenarios as yourself found you weren't able to use a short hot wash (I like them myself)! What made matters even worse was the fact that the machine was affected by a beyond belief end of cycle spin saga which often resulted in rather damp clothes that needed to be re-spun separately.

The overall cycle times in the Beko is much more reasonable, and the quick hot wash on the 'Daily Quick', is very reasonable even with just 2 rinses (3 rinses only with low temperature or on the considerably longer standard cycle). What really gets me though about the Beko, is the fact that it's advertised as a smart machine, although it clearly isn't... you can even see on the control panel it says 1kg to 7kg (1 to 8 in yours) and it's even rated as A+++ which is entirely based on the ECO program, a completely useless 3 hour long cycle with 2 rinses (inadequate for a full load, but these are fixed so a partial load would have enough rinse water). Yet, I can see how usable it is for the type of washes you do :)


Post# 859742 , Reply# 17   1/3/2016 at 07:58 (542 days old) by robliverpool (england Liverpool)        

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Lol no problems on the rant. At one point I was close to putting a hammer through the hotpoint. Even though it was a 1400 spin it never felt like they had been spun on that speed (when it eventually spun)
My mate has the hotpoint now. Five kids so it'll get plenty of use.
The main thing I like about beko is the spin. It's no where near as fussy as hotpoint and my previous LG. It just does it and when it picks up speed it levels out. As for being A+ ratings don't bother me nub. I'm on a water meter and I'm quite happy to pay that little bit extra so my clothes are rinsed properly. On the daily quick the water is just over a third above the door.

My my goal is to sort the miele out in the spring and keep the beko for duvets dogs blankets etc


Post# 860035 , Reply# 18   1/4/2016 at 16:22 (541 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

I remember when I used a Beko in the flatshare and I loved how it used to get on with the spins.

No fussing, that's one thing I dislike about my Hotpoint, it's fussy.


Post# 860423 , Reply# 19   1/6/2016 at 13:23 (539 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Hoovermatic..

My recently passed on LG F1495BDSA, had 2 rinses default, and on all cycles could br adjusted to 5, and on 2 cycles (allergycare and silent) could be adjusted to 6 rinses..

Post# 863203 , Reply# 20   1/21/2016 at 03:08 (524 days old) by mikeymatic (Manchester UK)        
Which model ?

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What model no is your Beko Rob ?

Would be good to know for when I get asked for advice on buying a new machine.

Sounds like you're having good results from this modern machine.

Mike.


Post# 864769 , Reply# 21   1/30/2016 at 06:03 (515 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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I've just bought the 12kg model. It has a recirculating jet so water levels are a bit lower on this model. It's very quiet, better build quality than the Zanussi Lindo I had previously ( the Lindo has been donated to a charity that helps families in need)

I've only really tried the daily quick cycle so far, which I love. It's so nice not having to wait 2.5 hrs for a "quick" 60 deg wash!!



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Post# 864770 , Reply# 22   1/30/2016 at 06:07 (515 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        

Are these 2,5h for a full load or time adjusted already?

I mean, 2,5h for 12kg of laundry would be quite ok, so the machine most likely will reduce the time if you wash less (keep in mind, a 6kg load would be a full load to some machines, but is only a half load to yours).


Post# 864773 , Reply# 23   1/30/2016 at 06:34 (515 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Henene4

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My Zanussi Lindo took 2.5 hrs on cottons quick 60degs, it was rated at 10kg. Deselecting quick the cycle would take closer to 4 hrs. The Beko's wash times are far more reasonable

Post# 864926 , Reply# 24   1/31/2016 at 12:34 (514 days old) by dave886 (united kingdom)        

Hotpoint are always loosing, when it comes to there appliances, it will be interesting to see, how whirlpool reproduces the new model of appliances for hotpoint. Could you imagine if a company like LG Owned hotpoint? Not to say LG make bad appliances, but it would be a interesting concept.

By the way paulc i love your beko, does this model do extra fast tumble rinses


Post# 864933 , Reply# 25   1/31/2016 at 13:53 (514 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Dave886

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The model I have doesn't do the fast distribute tumble when rinsing , instead it does normal speed tumbles with the jet on

Post# 866126 , Reply# 26   2/8/2016 at 10:36 (506 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
@paulc

Hi Paul

What happened to your Miele washer, she she die. Hope your happy with your Beko

Cheers

Paul


Post# 866290 , Reply# 27   2/9/2016 at 04:28 (505 days old) by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
paulinroyton

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I really like my new Beko machine. It's super flexible. The daily wash is great for the majority of loads and I never have to worry about things not being rinsed properly, for example , if there is sudslock during the spin after the wash on daily quick the machine will stop, do a couple of flush fills then recalculate the time and add an extra rinse! I like that it's not fussy when it comes to spinning uneven loads, if the load is really uneven then the machine, again, adds an extra rinse, even on super quick!

As for the Miele, she became a bit poorly. Durning an unbalanced spin the pump snapped off its housing, the shocks started to go and she was quite "glitchy" , often getting stuck mid way through a cycle. I had seven years out of it and it was worked very hard so I can't complain.


Post# 866344 , Reply# 28   2/9/2016 at 12:37 (505 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
@Paulc

Hi Paul

Sorry about the Miele washer.

Beko seems to be making a good range of washing machines. I think if I bought one I wouldn't go for a large capacity machine. I had an LG and I ended up selling the machine. Sometimes it would take over 3 hours to complete a cycle. I know it had turbo wash, but would compromise on the rinse quality.

At the moment in time I am using my American top loader and love it. Takes plenty of washing, cycles time very short, but does use an awful lot of water, thank god we are not on a water meter. I still use my Miele W754S, but she is getting on in years now. If the Miele died then I would consider a Beko.

Paul


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Post# 866809 , Reply# 29   2/12/2016 at 11:37 (502 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Paul R..

Is that a US TL machine in corner?

Got some Tide USA detergent going if you want it (it's free)

Got a post on super thread if you're interested.


Post# 866900 , Reply# 30   2/12/2016 at 23:04 (501 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
@liamy1

Hi.

Yes it's a Whirlpool American top loader. It came from a house clearance and was brand new. I love this machine as its so quick at washing. I ended up selling the LG. I still use my Miele W754S, but she getting on in years me.

I used tide one which I bought from Amazon and my other half came out in a rash, thanks for the offer.

I did recall you having an American top loader.

Paul


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Post# 867862 , Reply# 31   2/19/2016 at 07:44 (495 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
No worries,

Yes I did, it was a good machine, loved how fast it was.

It was a little too harsh on the fleecy things for my liking - washed a light blue and light pink dressing gowns together, it took me ages to pick all the pink fluff off the blue one :)

Just an adjustment to it as we've never really known anything other than FL :)





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