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Post# 860867   1/9/2016 at 10:30 (652 days old) by Volvoguy87 (Cincinnati, OH)        

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Last weekend, I picked up about a 1951 Westinghouse slant front pair and I am now very curious as to how the Westinghouse washer and dryer line evolved from its introduction to the 1960s (or later). I know that Moparwash's early 60s set is very different from mine and has little to nothing in terms of shared parts with mine.

How did the design evolve? What features were added / deleted along the way? How many different designs of guts did they go through?





Post# 860946 , Reply# 1   1/9/2016 at 20:16 (652 days old) by jeb (Mansfield Ohiio)        

Westinghouse had an automatic front loader introduced just before WW2 but stopped production during the war (1942-1946). They completely redesign the washer and reintroduced it after the war but did not want to be responsible for parts for the first design so they offer a replacement washer for the original ones ( you basically traded in your 6 year old washer for a brand new one). This design was used up until 1959 when the transmission was replaced with the 3 belt system. The belt system was used on the spacemates from the beginning. The pulley on the tub was later redesigned to be oval to help with the tangling problem and to give it " multi speed tumbling". It was called the "potato wheel pulley" because of its shape. The slanted front comes from the Patent that Westinghouse got the rights to from the Savage Arms Co. Their tub was mounted on a horizontal axis that the user had to lift into the upright position to spin out. Westinghouse was attempting to get the best of both worlds, and the 30 degree slant front was born.

Post# 861028 , Reply# 2   1/10/2016 at 11:22 (651 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In...June 2018!)        

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We could put on a great display at my next wash-in with Dave's new set, Jeff's pink 57 set and my 60-61 set!

Post# 861041 , Reply# 3   1/10/2016 at 12:18 (651 days old) by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
not to be off topic...

Not to be off topic, but the Maytag Neptunes had a slanted front towards the top of the machine. I believe that's when front loaders made a comeback.

Post# 861045 , Reply# 4   1/10/2016 at 12:46 (651 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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I can help meet in the middle with my 53/54 set. The dryer has rounded glass like earlier machines and the washer has pointed glass like later ones.

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Post# 861047 , Reply# 5   1/10/2016 at 12:59 (651 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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1940's looked like the first shot with the inner door
Then Dave's 1951
Then mine (the flat top styling as I call it) in 53/54
Then they added a backsplash with the flat top in 55
Then they removed the flat top like the turquoise set in 56 (2nd shot)
Then they squared the windows like Jeffs with the controls moved to the back in 57
Then the taller backsplash like John L. In 1959
Then Jerry's 60-61 set
Then the last of the slant fronts in 62/63 like the last pic


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Post# 861050 , Reply# 6   1/10/2016 at 13:30 (651 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Friends in Dallas had the model like #3, but their panel was yellow vs. the blue/grey in the photo.  It replaced a '57 Frog eye like Mark has in Akron.   


Post# 861080 , Reply# 7   1/10/2016 at 17:36 (651 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In...June 2018!)        
W slant-fronts at Pittsburgh Wash-In 2015

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Here are the W slant-fronts that were guests from my 2016 wash-in. I hope Jeff and Dave can make it to my 2016 wash-in with their slant-fronts!..my hope is to replicate the Mansfield shipping dock with all of them in their resplendent beauty!

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Post# 861197 , Reply# 8   1/11/2016 at 09:43 (650 days old) by bvf (arizona tucson)        
designer of slant fronts

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I grew up knowing the guy who was top designer at westinghouse from 1935 to 1970,,,he lived in tucson and beverly hills and designed a few ferari s.he is dead now and we still have his furniture,,,,,I believe he inspired these machines .I saw pictures of his designs and these were in them...

Post# 861198 , Reply# 9   1/11/2016 at 09:58 (650 days old) by revvinkevin (Between Mickey Mouse & the Queen Mary (So. Cal.)        

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I don't know the exact year of this early inner door model, but I'm sure Jeff Lefever can enlighten us as this is in his garage.... or it was 5 years ago when I took these photos.


Kevin


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Post# 861205 , Reply# 10   1/11/2016 at 11:33 (650 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Westinghouse Slant Front Washers

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Thanks Jeff you have found some great information on the early SFWHs.

 

I will add that the transmission was gone in SF washers after 1956 in most models and  completely gone with the 58 models except possibly some commercial models, WH moved quickly to the cheaper to build three belt system.

 

The introduction of the variable wash tumble speed " potato pulley " did nothing to reduce tangling but did improve cleaning. The tangling problem was nearly eliminated by having a proper horizontal wash basket with the 1959 models.

 

ALL front loading washers with tilted wash tubs CAN and DO tangle to at least some degree, this is why no manufacture ever tried to make a dryer with a slanted tub.

 

[ I only know of one dryer that ever had a slanted tub, hint it was a combo that came out in the late 50s ]

 

A washer can get away with some tangling, but having a slanted tub never improves cleaning as clothing can not be cleaned and rinsed as effectively when it is tangled up.

 

John L.


Post# 861346 , Reply# 11   1/12/2016 at 06:31 (649 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

Our pair was the center of Mark's lineup. A gearbox/no-boot washer preceded the chevron door. Never a matched set. They were very busy with a family of 6 and almost always one in cloth diapers.

From age 9 I did about half the laundry and all the maintenance except gearbox and boot replacement. Today I can't well get down on the floor and back up; my appliance repair days are over.


Post# 861380 , Reply# 12   1/12/2016 at 10:14 (649 days old) by newvista58 (Northern NJ)        
WOW !!!!!

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Those pink Slant Fronts are AMAZING. That's the first time I've
ever seen a set like that.

Having been a renter until only 1.5 years ago, I never was
fully able to get involved w/ Washers & Dryers. Now that
I have my own house, I'm like a kid in a Candy Store.

I still NEED a Turquoise Maytag A700/701/702 Washer. I
have the Dryer. HELP!! LOL.

Best Washes...Everyone.


Post# 861523 , Reply# 13   1/12/2016 at 22:52 (649 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Here's my singing pair

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1954 and in great used condition. Chime plays on the dryer. And they are still being used in commercials too !


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Post# 861525 , Reply# 14   1/12/2016 at 22:59 (649 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
John's

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Beautiful L-1000's !


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Post# 861529 , Reply# 15   1/12/2016 at 23:36 (649 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
How dry I am

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How dry!!

 


Post# 861539 , Reply# 16   1/13/2016 at 01:47 (649 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Love seeing all these great old Westys! Jerry, the pink pair with the clamshell consoles are gorgeous.

Post# 861553 , Reply# 17   1/13/2016 at 03:33 (649 days old) by brucelucenta (tulsa, oklahoma)        

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Post# 861557 , Reply# 18   1/13/2016 at 04:33 (648 days old) by brucelucenta (tulsa, oklahoma)        

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The memories I have of westinghouse machines are not particularly good ones. I had a great aunt who had an old front load washer and an aunt who had a combo washer/dryer of that era. Neither of them particularly liked either of them and both were happy on the day they replaced them both. I also remember a neighbor who had a set back in the early 60's that hated her set. She happily replaced them with a new Kenmore set. I never remember anyone who actually liked them. I never cared for them myself. Not enough action to suit me and too big, bulky and heavy to move. They were like tanks. I'm sure all the metal scrappers loved getting them. They just never appealed to me at all, neither did the bendix machines either. I will say one thing for them though. They did get rid of sand and mud really well. That was proven by the television ad done back in the 50's and showed how poorly the solid tub top loaders did in comparison. Washability, not that great though. Any of the old 50's & 60's machines with a lot of chrome, knobs & buttons were kind of pretty to look at, not necessarily great performing machines though.



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Post# 861560 , Reply# 19   1/13/2016 at 05:47 (648 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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Today's HE front-loaders have the advantage of enzyme-laden detergents formulated specifically for them. Plus, the detergent concentration in the wash water is far greater than it was in vintage Westys. Today's machines also have wash times that are 3-5 times longer. While my new Maytag is sleek and stylish in a 21st century way, the pink Westinghouse pair shown above epitomize the finest in lavish style/design from the 1950s.



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Post# 861604 , Reply# 20   1/13/2016 at 11:43 (648 days old) by classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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I must say, of all the sets you have John (combo52), that 1959 Westinghouse pair (L-1000 and D-1000) are the ones I envy you the most on. If you ever find a second set, I call dibs. LOL!

Post# 861608 , Reply# 21   1/13/2016 at 12:30 (648 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In...June 2018!)        

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Jeffs pink set and Johns set are truly the holy grail of laundromats...Ive seen both sets in person and they are stunning!

Post# 861644 , Reply# 22   1/13/2016 at 15:26 (648 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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they can be a handful but I love em

Post# 861645 , Reply# 23   1/13/2016 at 15:27 (648 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        

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here is a cool ad for some new home back in the day

Post# 861660 , Reply# 24   1/13/2016 at 16:55 (648 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
WOw

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is that Jeff's '41 Westinghouse I spy??


Post# 861675 , Reply# 25   1/13/2016 at 18:31 (648 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
No one will ever convince me

That the old front loaders aren't a million times better than the new stuff, for one, the new ones don't half wash because they don't have nearly enough water to do anything, especially not enough to rinse,the new ones spend more time stopping and reversing, where the old WH and Bendix actually washed...one direction like they should, If I could get a nice WH or Bendix pair that were in running shape, I would use them as daily drivers, The only thing that the new ones do well is spin the clothes dry, and I personally DONT want my clothes spun that hard, it sets wrinkles if you line dry them, the old washers didn't spin them nearly as dry, but you had far less wrinkles...but im biased, I HATE anything less than 50 years old!But they tangle, you say, yes, and that means they actually DO something!!


Post# 861683 , Reply# 26   1/13/2016 at 18:54 (648 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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I won't  anything because your mind is closed tighter than Fort Knox and I could say e helluva lot of stuff!!


Post# 861687 , Reply# 27   1/13/2016 at 19:31 (648 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In...June 2018!)        

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That 46-48 Chrysler Town & Country would look good next to some slant fronts!

Post# 861690 , Reply# 28   1/13/2016 at 19:35 (648 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
LOL...

A Town and Country would look good next to ANYTHING!!!!!!LOVE THEM!


Post# 861705 , Reply# 29   1/13/2016 at 21:36 (648 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Jerry's pink set are probably a close second to John's in my book. Both are quite beautiful. I love my 53/54 models, but I wish I could go back to about 1970 or so with a ton of money. I'd buy buy a warehouse and just start collecting what I want, 53, 57, and 59 Westknghouse pairs (check), Maytag 702 and 806 pair (check), 51, 57, 62 Kenmores (check) 59 Whilpools (check), mobile made (check), 1957 and 1962 kitchen aide portable dishwashers (check), Magnavox concert grand (check), Fisher President (check), A few more old stereos and Tvs (check, check, check). Lol. Then I could open it up 45-50 years later and poof, it was all there waiting. Ah to dream.

Post# 861708 , Reply# 30   1/13/2016 at 21:43 (648 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )        
Aint it!

The truth!!!!


Post# 861735 , Reply# 31   1/14/2016 at 01:41 (648 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In...June 2018!)        
for the record

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The pink set is owned by Jeff...he brought that set and a few others to my wash in last year for which was so awesome of him!..

Post# 861826 , Reply# 32   1/14/2016 at 13:59 (647 days old) by Classiccaprice (Hampton, Virginia)        

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Sorry Jeff! My apologies!




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