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Post# 887008   6/26/2016 at 09:07 (2,861 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK)        

Does anyone else have the Apple IPhone 5s? How do you rate it? I have bought one myself a couple of months ago and find the battery life poor. What smartphones do you find the best for long battery life? And do you think Apple are any better than Windows or Android? Beginning to regret buying this iPhone.




Post# 887014 , Reply# 1   6/26/2016 at 09:58 (2,861 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

I never had very good battery life with the 5S when I had one. Wasn't really a fan of that phone overall. Know a few people with them and have had them a couple years now and they work ok, they're getting a little slow these days though. I personally have an iPhone 6, there are a lot of things I like about it, and there are things I hate about it, but so far I've kept it the longest of any smart phone I've ever had. I will probably upgrade to the 6S in the fall when the prices come down, since it looks like the 7 will come with no headphone jack which is a big annoyance to me, and I've learned my lesson in buying a new design phone when they first come out...

Post# 887016 , Reply# 2   6/26/2016 at 10:02 (2,861 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        

I personally switched to a Windowsphone, a Nokia 725 to be exact. I simply don't use my phone for much else then texting, navigation, misic and serving a tiny bit. And it really behaves much like any Win10 system I have used.

Android just started to annoy me because any Android phone works well for 2 years and the drops dead to the stage of crashes and slow performance.

iPhones perform actually quite good over quite sone time. If your battery life lacks, first check all the settings for high usage systems like locations, WiFi, bluetooth etc. You should get a at least a light day of use out of it.
Otherwise, the battery might be just dead.


Post# 887048 , Reply# 3   6/26/2016 at 16:09 (2,861 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK)        

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My Samsung Android also died after 2 years. My Apple 5s is going strong for nearly 3 years now.
Yes not much battery, get a protective case with a battery built in for extended (double) duration of use.
We did for ours and it made all the difference.




This post was last edited 06/26/2016 at 22:08
Post# 887062 , Reply# 4   6/26/2016 at 17:29 (2,861 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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Other issue with Android that's worth pointing out: software support has been problematic with many phones. They don't get security patches, or they get them long after the patch is created. I also see a lot of phones at the cheap end of the market that appear to still be using an old version of Android.

Post# 887083 , Reply# 5   6/26/2016 at 21:39 (2,860 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

My other half has an iPhone 5s. Battery life sucks shit but more than doubles with a Lemmark(sp?) protective case which has an additional battery in it. No problems getting through a day now.

 

Me? I'm a sucker for a physical keyboard. I have a BlackBerry Q20 (aka Classic) as a daily driver and a BBerry Q10 as my back up. The Q10 has a normal replaceable battery so I can switch out when needed. If I were to go back to Android I'd probably go with a Samsung J3V because it's not too huge and I can swap out the battery at my discretion.

 

Jim

 

 


Post# 887096 , Reply# 6   6/27/2016 at 00:40 (2,860 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I have an IPhone 6S like it generally-but the weird touch screen functions I DON'T like-my old IPhone 6 had the standard touch screen-you touched it,did what you wanted the phone to do.The 6S you have to fiddle with a pop up menu.Also,sometimes my phone will come up with a function I didn't want it to do.I charge the phone battery daily so the battery life isn't such a concern.Just started using the phone as a music player-esp thru the Bluetooh function with my cars radio.Works well,but I don't like the songs being mixed up-random play.Don't know how to fix that.Right now just happy it can play thru the cars sound system.HATE commercial radio-just CRAP now-and sat radio just plays the same records over and over-and the songs get interrupted by DJ's that say largely---NOTHING-just blabbing.

Post# 887138 , Reply# 7   6/27/2016 at 09:51 (2,860 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I Phone?

I have no need for one, nor a data plan. I have not yet even sent a text message.
I can probably get that in the Guinness book.
Even my dental hygienist said I need to get with the times.
Really? Like my dental insurance which paid 80% in the 80's, and only pays 50% today?
On top of that, my old dentist used to sell a rider to offset what my insurance didn't cover for $40 per year.


Post# 887142 , Reply# 8   6/27/2016 at 10:20 (2,860 days old) by Liberatordeluxe (UK)        

Thanks for your responses. Unfortunately I broke my iPhone this afternoon by dropping it. Screen completely shattered. Not getting it repaired as the quote rediculous amount of money. I mainly got the iPhone for call quality and wi if calling but I can't justify that cost just for something like that. I've dropped various other smartphones before but he screen has never broken, Beginning to think I may be better off going back to a feature phone as want a phone really just for calls and texts and maybe the odd picture. I have a proper computer and a camera at home. Has anyone else gone back to a basic phone after having a smart phone and regretted it?

Post# 887151 , Reply# 9   6/27/2016 at 11:25 (2,860 days old) by cadman (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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Sorry to hear about the screen shattering. If you're handy you might take a stab at replacing it yourself (<$30 on ebay).

I'm surprised at the poor battery life. I have a 5S and can go several days between charging, but I also have push notifications turned off. I find that apps making use of location services can have a negative impact and some have this turned on by default. -C


Post# 887160 , Reply# 10   6/27/2016 at 12:50 (2,860 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        

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I used a 4S (still have it) and the battery went bad (would drop from 25-30% to less than 5% in 10-12 mins.)   Had the battery (and the glass back) replaced and it did much better.  

 

I replaced the 4S with a 6S in October and like it a lot.   Unlike the majority, I do NOT live my life through my phone.   I use it for phone calls (surprise!), texts and face time calls.   I'm usually near a computer or my iPad, so I'll rarely do internet searches through my phone.

 

Of course the longer my calls and face time calls are, the quicker the battery drains.   I let the battery get down to 15-20% before charging and always let it charge fully each time.   Most of the time it will go 2 full days between charges.  Like Cory, I have the majority of the apps and background stuff turned off.   However I do use the Yelp, Waze and Shazam apps pretty regularly.

 

Kevin


Post# 887161 , Reply# 11   6/27/2016 at 12:58 (2,860 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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I have a nearly 4 year old iPhone 5 and I have zero complaints. Just before year 3 I did replace the battery. (A replacement battery is $15 and you can change it in less then 10 min if you are handy). I can't imagine that the 5S would have a significantly different battery life...

Sorry to hear of the damaged display. Replacement shouldn't be ridiculous price wise, certainly would make more sense financially to repair then to trash a usable high value phone.

As for the Apple vs Android, while I dislike a LOT of the control freak issues from Apple, I just don't have the time to mess with a phone with a 'free' OS and open app development platform and the problems that lie within. Using iMessage over plain SMS is night and day better and I have yet to see an Android solution to the complete backup system that iTunes offers.


Post# 887163 , Reply# 12   6/27/2016 at 13:07 (2,860 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Phil,

others have also mentioned the same control complaints with Apple as you have.

Post# 887173 , Reply# 13   6/27/2016 at 13:50 (2,860 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Mike, Indeed, Apple has long keep tight control which is both a blessing and a curse.

I have owned a personal computer since 1981 and I have generally been an Apple basher since the Apple II came out in the late 70's. I have always built my own PC's from parts and I do all my own tech work both at home and at various jobs I have worked. I never had any interest in not having full control at all times...

A while back I got my first Apple product (an iTouch iPod) and for a time I remained repelled at their control. But I have been more assimilated to the point of having a couple iPads and 3 MacOS computers now! I remain distinctly Bi though, I still have 3 PC's at home and all the computers at work are Windows based. I suppose I have come around to it being just a different tool in the tool box and accepted it for what it is.

In general, the Apple hardware is the best made stuff out there. But then again it is expensive too. Keeping tight control allows them to maintain some control of the experience and troubles due to app/hardware compatibility etc. I am still annoyed that I can't have a good WiFi signal meter on my iOS devices, Apple thinks it could be used for bad dontcha know?... :(


Post# 887208 , Reply# 14   6/27/2016 at 19:17 (2,860 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Worked for......

A phone company for over 10 years.

Battery performance was one of the biggest complaints of handsets.

If you haven't already, here are some things to extend your battery life

1st - By far the biggest thing that drains battery, turn your screen brightness down as low as you can bear, also turn of "auto brightness" if convenient as you then have total control of it

- When you are not in range of any Wi-fi, turn it off, your phone will still scan for wifi networks, no point in it doing that if you cant/dont intend to connect to one

- Like wise, if you arent in range of any 3G/4G networks, you'll know this as you wont be able to browse the web, or the 3G/4G symbol next to signal indicator/network name will not be there. Or at best will show GPRS or E (which these signals aren't strong enough to run a data connection on a smartphone. Your phone will always try to connect to the strongest signal it can, so no point having it frantically scanning if you know you're in an area where there is nothing but basic call/text connection.

- Any apps you don't use, delete off the phone, if you have auto app updates turned on, the phone will do updates for any apps that need it, no point doing this for apps you dont use, as it uses battery, and even worse, uses your data allowance if the app updates are done on your mobile networks internet connection

- Turn off the feature that allows apps to refresh in the background. Go to Settings > General > Background App Refresh and set the switch to Off.

- Likewise, your email app, change this from push email to fetch email, this means instead of emails coming through automatically, you will only get new emails come through when you actually open the email app on your phone, as when it is set to push through, your phone is practically always scanning your email accounts server to check for emails, so it can bring it through to your phone.

There are other things you can do, but above is what I can recall off hand

It sounds like a right pain written down, but if you can do any of the above things, it will definitely extend the battery life, I do it of course and it is second nature now.

Lithium batteries (what are used in smartphones over the last 8 years or so), are much better than what was used before. They dont develop memories like older batteries did or degrade as fast. Even so, they will only go through so many charge/discharge cycles before their performance degrades and doesnt perform as well as it did. If you are still happy with the phone, you can take it to apple for the battery to be replaced.


Post# 887221 , Reply# 15   6/27/2016 at 21:25 (2,859 days old) by Ilovewindex (Tualitan OR)        

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I have the LG v10. I love it. I've had good luck with Lg phones and they seem to last the longest. I had several galaxy's and they just didn't last like I needed. In fact the s7 edge is so non tactile I can't even hang on to it correctly

Post# 887229 , Reply# 16   6/27/2016 at 22:45 (2,859 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

Good list, Liamy1. Most of these apply to all phones, regardless of operating system.

 

I do know from friends that iPhones are notoriously fragile compared to other phones. Over the years my Blackberries suffered all kinds of abuse, yet I never had any damage beyond scratches and scuffs even though I only ever used thin neoprene/soft gel cases. 

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"As for the Apple vs Android, while I dislike a LOT of the control freak issues from Apple, I just don't have the time to mess with a phone with a 'free' OS and open app development platform and the problems that lie within."

 

Exactly.

 

This is one of the main reasons I've avoided Apple products. I have no patience with any entity (be it a person, a company, or whatever) that has exactly zero pieces of information yet behaves as if it knows my needs better than I do.

 

On the flip side I've had several android phones and each one has required a touch more time and energy than the one before to customize to my needs. Unfortunately, the older I get, the less discretionary time and energy I have.

 

I really hope Blackberry gets its act together. I'm very happy with their OS and do NOT want to be foreced to decide between Apple and Android.

 

Jim

 

 


Post# 887262 , Reply# 17   6/28/2016 at 05:52 (2,859 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

I have gone from an I phone back to a dependable droppable flip phone that I have had for many years. Dropped the I phone once and display was ruined. Never used any of the apps. Didn't surf the internet, didn't get my e-mails on it. Have many computers I am on every day, so no need for instant e-mails while I am out and about. Too many dropped calls on the I phone. Back to the flip phone. Never drops calls, makes and receives calls with no issues. Dropped many many times, the back comes off and the battery comes out. Takes less than a minute to put together and powers right back up. Best of all it fits into my pocket. Can walk ride my bike without holding onto it. It has blue tooth and connects to my vehicle automatically. I for one do not miss my I phone at all and probably will never purchase another one again. It is something I realized that I don't need in my life.

Jon


Post# 887265 , Reply# 18   6/28/2016 at 06:20 (2,859 days old) by Liberatordeluxe (UK)        

Thanks Liamy for those helpful tips will bear that in mind when and if I buy another smartphone but won't be an Apple! I subscribed to Which magazine hence why I bought the iPhone and said it had good battery life and call quality. I found both were rubbish and no one could ever hear me on the phone. Do you think 2G will be obselete in years to come? If so basic phones for just calls will be redundant won't they as they are only 2G

Post# 887268 , Reply# 19   6/28/2016 at 06:30 (2,859 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
2G...

Yes one day I am sure 2G will go (as 1G [analogue] did).

At the moment though, 2G is still by far the widest network for basic call/sms access, covering 99.9 of the landmass - without it, you'd have no mobile access at all in a lot or areas, especially rural.

Also, it's a back up for when 3G is busy in your location, so if your call cannot be done on 3G, your phone will kick you back over to 2G.

When 4G is capable of carry calls/sms as well as data (I dont know if that has changed yet since I left the industry). Then of course, you'll have 3G/4G spectrums, so the need for 2G will gradually reduce.

I'd say by the time of this happening, the "basic" phones will be 3G capable anyway (more and more low end handsets (£30-80 range) are touch screen, data capable etc etc now) and should imagine this will only continue.


Post# 887276 , Reply# 20   6/28/2016 at 07:13 (2,859 days old) by Liberatordeluxe (UK)        

That's what I thought myself. Three I believe is 3/4G only. I'm with EE and find the network reliable for rural areas.

Post# 887300 , Reply# 21   6/28/2016 at 09:20 (2,859 days old) by liamy1 (-)        
Three I believe is 3/4G only...

Ah, they're are now. But a little hidden fact was at one time, they had an agreement with a "partner network" to allow customers to "roam" onto the partners 2G network, when at times, it was needed.

Post# 887481 , Reply# 22   6/29/2016 at 14:33 (2,858 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I just got myself an iPhone SE. I've had an iPhone 4 for many years, never had problems with the battery. It still has the original battery.

The synchronisation went flawless, never had so little problems to get things from the old to the new phone. Yay!



Post# 887526 , Reply# 23   6/30/2016 at 02:13 (2,857 days old) by mieleforever (SOUTH AFRICA)        

Well I have had my IPhone 4S now for about 4 years, and it is still going oh well rather strongish. There have been instances were it will go a bit off kilter, for example it is much slower then when I got it, and sometimes the battery will show 50% charged and the moment you start using it, it will shutdown. So I guess the battery is on its way out, but I simply love my Iphone and will have to get a new battery and maybe have it serviced or something other than that it works rahter a treat.

As for me, I can for the love of *** not understand why some people will dump themselves into debt or saddle themselves with a two year contract just to have the newest phone, whilst their car is falling apart or their clothing is in tatters. As a matter of fact I have read somewher that people now on average spend less on stuff like clothing and spend their money on electronics. OUr lives have become entangled in chargers, we have so many chargers for so many stuff at our house its rediculous.

Further to that there seems to be a plateau with regards to smartphones and the like as most older smart phones can still do what a new one can do, maybe just not as fast, and features are all downloadable.

But all in all this world is going touch screen and led crazy, it gets on my nerves. Good now let me focus on getting this new tablet figured out in order to post it on here.

Regards,



Post# 887621 , Reply# 24   6/30/2016 at 23:25 (2,856 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        

I'm not sure about the UK, but in the US the 4 nationwide networks are converting a large % of the capacity of their 2G service to 4G. They WERE talking about shutting them down, but now the trend seems to leave it in place (with the current coverage) with reduced capacity.

 

AFAIK, all recent flip phones are 3G. Many also include the capability of e-mail, web browsing, and GPS navigation. Those services tend to be on a pay-as-you-go basis with flip phones.

 

Me, I'm sticking with BlackBerry as long as I can. Part of my income depends on fast response to e-mails so a physical keyboard is a must for me. I also like the fact that they're very 'droppable'. I've NEVER had a BlackBerry suffer more than cosmetic damage due to physical abuse. I do NOT take any precautions other than adding a screen protector and a thin neoprene case.

 

All the newer BlackBerries can run Android apps, btw. I've downloaded Grindr & Scruff from Google Play and they run perfectly. 

 

Jim


Post# 887638 , Reply# 25   7/1/2016 at 03:38 (2,856 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))        
Grindr

The only reason I don't like my Windowsphone: No Grindr avaible :/

Post# 887652 , Reply# 26   7/1/2016 at 05:24 (2,856 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
Henrik,

Can't you access Manhunt, or another site? Now, don't go thinking I'm a pig. I'm married, but I'm sure single guy's looking for more than a hook up do meet on those sites.

Post# 887709 , Reply# 27   7/1/2016 at 14:42 (2,856 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England)        
Smartphone?????

I am still enjoying the Nokia 3410 experience. It makes and receives calls and texts, and (as Retro-Man points out), when dropped the worst that happens is that the back flies off and it loses the battery pack. Usually, unless the drop is from an exceptional height, the battery stays 'put', and the two parts clip back together in an instant ;-)

All best

Dave T

P.S. On the odd occasions that I wish to access the Internet, I use a 'computer' ;-)


Post# 887711 , Reply# 28   7/1/2016 at 15:44 (2,856 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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Funny thing is I have dropped my nearly 4 year old iPhone 5 hundreds of times, mostly on the concrete shop floor. It has worn a Speck Candyshell Grip case since day one. I'm on the third case now as the corners will crack eventually. I find this case to be the perfect blend of protection vs size. The OtterBox and Lifeproof cases offer better protection, but they are just too bulky.

I have also felt the tip of a screwdriver smoothly glide down the screen when I slide it into my back pocket that my phone resides in (done this a few times dammit). I have no mars at all on the screen, glass is very hard to scratch. I don't mess with the film screen protectors cause they really don't do anything but make the display look crappy. A full replacement LCD/Digitizer screen is only ~$70 and it only takes a few minutes to install so I'll save the money from the screen film just in case...


Post# 887716 , Reply# 29   7/1/2016 at 16:23 (2,856 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

I've been using a Candyshell Grip for a bit over two years now and they're by far the best case I've ever had. They last the longest (I went a year before replacing the one on my 6 just because I felt like it and it was just starting to show wear), the grip makes the phone much easier to handle, and they offer great protection in a thin package. I've bounced mine off of tile and hardwood floors many times and it has always protected the phone.
I also use a tempered glass protector, I like those because then I don't need to worry about where I put my phone and scratching the screen. (The 6 seems to scratch easy). I hate the plastic ones because they just smudge up instantly.


Post# 887717 , Reply# 30   7/1/2016 at 16:29 (2,856 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land)        
Protective case / bumper / guard

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I first learned about the RhinoShield CrashGuard Bumper about a year ago and was extremely impressed when I first saw this video!    When I ordered my iPhone 6S in November, I also ordered this bumper at the same time.   I did initially install the screen protector, but I agree with Phil, it makes the screen look terrible, so I peeled it off after a month.

 

BTW, for those who don't know, David Pogue is the tech editor for the New York Times.

 





Post# 887725 , Reply# 31   7/1/2016 at 17:14 (2,856 days old) by vacerator (Macomb, Michigan)        
I have

also seen phone jackets with nano tech suction cups. They cushion the phone if dropped, and can hold it onto a car roof at high speed.

Post# 887730 , Reply# 32   7/1/2016 at 18:22 (2,856 days old) by Xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )        

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My first smart phone was an iPhone4, I used it for 3 years and loved it until the phone would only work on speaker.
It was replaced with the iPhone5s, from day one the battery life was terrible and I couldn't wait for my contract to end so I could get a new one.
Last October I upgraded to an iPhone6 which was great then after 6 months started getting dark spots in the screen and the battery would drop 50% in 3 hours even when not used, luckily Apple replaced it for free. Now today out of nowhere I have a huge dark spot in the screen and battery life has dwindled some so it's back to the Apple Store again.


Post# 887733 , Reply# 33   7/1/2016 at 18:48 (2,856 days old) by warmsecondrinse (Fort Lee, NJ)        
Grindr, etc.

I believe Scruff is available on Windows phone.

 

I only have a half dozen or so apps on my BlackBerries, but Grindr and Scruff are two of them. I would NEVER buy a phone that didn't support them :-)

 

Jim


Post# 887745 , Reply# 34   7/2/2016 at 01:44 (2,855 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Thank you Liamy1 for those tips, I adjusted my settings accordingly. Amazing, after 24 hours after I charged it, my battery is still almost full! Quite a difference, the day before I did it the battery was almost empty with about the same use. So thank you very much! I'll spread the word!!


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