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Post# 907680   11/19/2016 at 20:29 (334 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        

Hello to all AW.ORG members. I am in need of replacing my SPEED QUEEN AFN50R MODEL WASHER. The machine is going out again and want to replace it with something more along the commercial line of either Milnor or Continental Girbau. Can any members of the group please guide me in what to buy. Would it be better to buy a solid mount or soft mount washer. I am looking for something with a 35- 40 pound capacity load and would also be replacing a exceptional Speed Queen dryer model ADE40. As always all advice is appreciated in advance.

David





Post# 907681 , Reply# 1   11/19/2016 at 20:37 (334 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
If you need a real HEAVY DUTY commercial washer

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I would go the Continental route.  I have used Cont/Girbau machines in an entry mat laundry.  It did not faze them.  This is the machine I would recommend.  Of course you can get it without the meter if you need an OPL machine.

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Post# 907684 , Reply# 2   11/19/2016 at 20:47 (334 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0700 CDT.))        
Here is an Alliance made Uni-Mac option:

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This should do the job.  There may be a Speed Queen option at the same or better price.

WK78



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Post# 907686 , Reply# 3   11/19/2016 at 21:14 (333 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
soft mount or solid mount

Is the Continental a soft mount or solid mount? I live in a manufactured home and the floor in the laundry room was reinforced and rebuilt because the Speed Queen ate a hole thru the original floor.

Post# 907687 , Reply# 4   11/19/2016 at 21:27 (333 days old) by suburbanmd (Maryland, USA)        

Spin speeds on hard mount washers are very low.

 

A washer with 35-40 lb. capacity may not have the option of a drain pump; it'll dump the water on the floor, expecting to find a drain trough there.

 

Look at the available programs and configurability on these washers. I've looked at them in the past, and found them pretty limited. In contrast, the Miele Little Giant is a commercial washer with lots of functionality for home use, and probably costs no more than a big commercial washer. It is small, smaller than your Speed Queen, but can be stuffed pretty full on many of its programs.


Post# 907704 , Reply# 5   11/20/2016 at 07:25 (333 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Heavy Duty Washer Choice

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How many loads does this washer have to do ? and what is failing on it now ?


Post# 907755 , Reply# 6   11/20/2016 at 13:22 (333 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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John,

David is the guy who had all of that trouble getting Alliance to repair his SQ FL under warranty a while back.  It's my understanding that he has special needs kids and that the machine is being used for multiple loads on a daily basis.  Apparently even a SQ can't hold up under such demands.  He's probably better off with a commercial type if his laundry room can accommodate one.


Post# 907763 , Reply# 7   11/20/2016 at 13:48 (333 days old) by Combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Best heavy duty washer choice

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Hi Ralph, yes I remember this case well but in order to give the best advice I ask for more details. The best thing I could possibly recommend right now would be another speed queen soft mount commercial homestyle washer. These are truly commercial washers, they use the exact same ones and coin laundries all over the world.

We have these machines and hotels in veterinary clinics etc. doing 20+ loads a day some for over five years and have never had bearing failures with most of them I have a couple of them that I've done over 45,000 loads out there.

If the bearings are failing again in this washer they may either not of been repaired well or there may be some unusual water conditions that are causing the frequent failures which no washer may be able to avoid.


Post# 907827 , Reply# 8   11/20/2016 at 20:26 (333 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
current failures on speed queen

To all members of AW.ORG the current failure(s) are probably easy fixes but IMHO the machine is just on it's last leg. Our house hold averages 25-30 and sometimes more loads of laundry a week. Due to having 2 special needs kids in the home. The loads consist of about 14 loads of bedding, 4 large loads of towels, 10-14 loads of clothes this is a real bad week though. If I were weighing the laundry I would say the machine is easily doing 400 plus pounds of laundry a week.

The machine isn't having bearing failures again but water keeps pouring out from under the machine. It does not happen with every load but about every 3 loads. This started happening after I washed a medium sized sleeping bag in the machine and I have washed it numerous times in the past. I have also noticed that it started doing this leak while using GAIN HE detergent vs. TIDE W/Bleach. I watched the machine progress with a load of clothes and it did not leak but when I washed a queen size blanket it did leak. There is no water coming from around the boot or any water coming out from around the door.

As far as water conditions here on the Oregon Coast we have SUPER soft water. I have noticed that when using GAIN HE detergent the machine gets extremely sudsy using a 1/4 scoop. IS it the detergent causing the leak if so that is a easy fix. Gain was on sale so I just bought 2 boxes versus buying tide at the time

The good news is there is absolutely no problems with the dryer (model ADE40). These machines were rated the top of the line when purchased.

David


Post# 907857 , Reply# 9   11/21/2016 at 06:23 (332 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Sounds like...

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You may be having a suds lock condition which results in foam escaping the air vent in the back. There may also be a need to check and clear the pump guard. Additionally, Gain HE powder is a very sudsy formula. I can't use it in my machine.

Malcolm


Post# 907865 , Reply# 10   11/21/2016 at 08:09 (332 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
maybe its not the washer but the detergent

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Hello maybe its not your washer but the detergent itself that cause the problem maybe you should try swtiching to a liquid formula detergent or pod type detergent and try putting less detergent than what is recommended on the label

Post# 907880 , Reply# 11   11/21/2016 at 11:41 (332 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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for one, you might consider Rosalie's detergent.....best for no suds conditions, could be more economical as well.....

question.....

don't some of these bigger units require a 2 or 3 phase power supply?

and based on size, some may not fit through standard doorways....


Post# 907886 , Reply# 12   11/21/2016 at 11:59 (332 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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you would have to open the machine up, whether the top, or bottom panels....

and watch closely as to when the water is leaking out.....and where it is coming from


I just worked on a Samsung with a mystery leak, took several loads to figure out that the dispenser box would occasionally have water overflow out the top section where it snaps together.....simple sealant filled the gap all the way around and fixed that issue....

plus, is it from the machine?, or the drain pipe backing up?, even suds backing out of the pipe can show the same results.....anything is possible


Post# 907905 , Reply# 13   11/21/2016 at 14:34 (332 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Step One: Ditch the Gain

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After P&G changed the formula on Gain and Tide HE to be "for both" front-loading and top-loading machines,  I experienced oversudsing issues in my Frigidaire Affinity.   Others here have reported similar experiences.  I stopped using P&G's "for both" products and am back to low suds as front loading machines require.

 

Try a different brand that isn't made by P&G.  I think they're the only manufacturer making the claim about their HE being "for both" types of machines, and that is simply not true.

 

Ideally, you want suds no higher than about 1/3 or so up the window while contents are tumbling.  I find that most of the time I can use much less than the manufacturer's recommended amount of detergent, and only use the full amount on large, heavily soiled loads.

 

 

 

 


Post# 907906 , Reply# 14   11/21/2016 at 14:57 (332 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
THANK YOU

Thank you for all of your responses AW members. I appreciate all of your ideas and thoughts about what is going on with machine. I wish I would of known about the Gain being so sudsy. I use regular Tide W/ Bleach with no issues.

I checked all the hoses and connections and drain pipe and all are clean dry and no signs of leaks. In my mind it has something to do with the pump assembly.

I don't remember all of the warranty. Do I have 5 years parts and labor? Will I get the same ration of BS and ring around the Rosey with alliance? Should I just call a service tech and say screw the warranty?

All thoughts and responses are greatly appreciated.

David


Post# 907907 , Reply# 15   11/21/2016 at 15:25 (332 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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There are single phase commercial hard and soft mount washers in both 120v and 220v.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wascomat-W620-12...


http://www.ebay.com/itm/HC40MD2-40lb-Hue...

Larger question for the OP is whether or not his home can withstand the weight and forces generated by such machines. Personally one seconds advice given upthread and seek out SQ or perhaps another brand of OPL unit.

From what one has seen commercial washers lowest capacity is around 20lbs, they then go up to 30, 40, 50, etc....

Unless dealing with fully programmable controls from what one has seen cycle times on most commercial washers tends to be on the quick side. Thus unless one routinely washes large/bulky items a larger capacity machine might not be required. We're talking about 30 minutes or so from start to finish... wash days just breeze by.


Post# 907919 , Reply# 16   11/21/2016 at 16:17 (332 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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John (combo52) should be able to advise on the warranty, or you can call Alliance and they can advise, assuming you registered your machine with Alliance after purchase.  They'll have on file the information needed to initiate warranty repairs.

 

If the machine is still covered, deal with Alliance directly to avoid the run-around you got from your local SQ service provider last time. 


Post# 907922 , Reply# 17   11/21/2016 at 16:29 (332 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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A couple years ago I looked into buying a Huebsch soft mount commercial washer for no reason other then they are just darned cool. It looks like they have changed their models a little since then, as I recall the one I was considering was rated at 18lbs and cost a bit under $4000.

If you look at their current offerings the 20, 25 and 30lb machines could go through a 36" doorway. All these machines are available as single phase machines (but they are all 240v). I don't believe that any of these machines have a drain pump though, the simple brochure isn't clear about this.

Also note that all of these commercial machines are in the 400 to 600 pound total weight range. If you already suffered floor damage from a residential Speed Queen then I doubt one of these would be workable.

From what you have described as leakage, doesn't make it seem as if the machine is on its last legs. All machines will have minor troubles from time to time. Indeed this is very likely leakage caused by over sudsing or similar. Find the cause and the machine will likely keep working fine for many years.

If you have the room and feel like spending the money I'd buy a 2nd machine which could double throughput as well as serve as a back up in case of any failures. It does sound like you have "mission critical" laundry needs.


Post# 907924 , Reply# 18   11/21/2016 at 16:48 (332 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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why not call the exact service company that came out the last time....after all, they were the ones who got that situation back on track....

and most likely would have your info on file....


Post# 907927 , Reply# 19   11/21/2016 at 16:59 (332 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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To the best of one's knowledge Milnor does not currently produce a washer/extractor remotely possible in OP's domestic situation.

www.milnor.com/product-category/w...

Now a structure with a solid concrete basement floor and suitable structural support would be another matter. Ditto any sort of building where floors/structure could support the machine and forces generated.


Continental-Girbau is another matter. However their "E" series washers have rated lifespans of 10-20 years. Not much different than say Miele (especially older models) which cost much less. www.continentalgirbau.com/opl/com...

Would suggest a Miele, but the older larger capacity washers are no longer in production, and views are mixed on the (discontinued) 40XX series.
Average lifespan for a typical front loading washing machine sold in USA is fourteen years, which works out to about 5,100 cycles

(see: homeguides.sfgate.com/expected-li...).

Things aren't that much better across the pond: www.whitegoodshelp.co.uk/how-long...

Obviously the more cycles a washer is put through equates to more stress on certain parts and shorter lifespan. In particular if the machine is routinely overloaded.

Personally reason for having many washers (Miele, then Hoover TT, added Oko-Lavamat, now the Maytag Wringer...), along with various hand washing tools (tubs, posser, hand wringers), is to take some of the work load off the front loaders.

For instance one does not do small wash loads in the Miele or rarely in the Lavamat. The first most certainly doesn't like it, and the latter appears not so keen as well. Both to an extent have issues attempting to balance before spinning, and the result is often banging, bouncing and vibrations.

Similarly no longer do heavy/bulky items in either washer; but take them round to laundryette. This became certainly true after paying out >$300 for Miele to come out and repair the suspension springs on the W1070. This was on top of a few years prior having same done for the shock absorbers.

What one is getting at is the OP may wish to consider some sort of second washer (maybe even a top loader portable or stationary), to take some of the work load off main washer.

Twenty-five to thirty (or more) wash loads per week will quickly knacker all but the most durable front loaders. Depending upon source the average number of wash loads for domestic front loaders is between 7 and 12 per week.


Post# 907940 , Reply# 20   11/21/2016 at 17:38 (332 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Economical Route

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It seems to me the best route at this point is to switch detergent and see if the problem follows the Gain HE. If you continue to have problems, I would make a direct phone call to the sq Servicer that gave you satisfaction last round.

Malcolm


Post# 907946 , Reply# 21   11/21/2016 at 18:40 (332 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
You are not going to like to hear this...

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But I wonder if you should move out of a manufactured house and into a ranch or split level house built on a slab where you can have the commercial washer. I would recommend building a concrete "pedestal" about 10-12 inches high enough for also the dryer. That way, a "hard mount" machine would be possible. Even if you don't get the hard mount, I think this platform would be a good place for any machine.

Another way might be to build like a Tuff Shed with a thick concrete floor and a "trough" but you probably have to get permission as the "shed" would have to have its utilities, but it could be a Laundry Shed.

Does Speed Queen make a model that is just above the home style machine but the smallest size commercial? Also, perhaps a commercial dealer could program detergents and additives like they do for bed and breakfasts, which would help with doing the laundry.


Post# 907952 , Reply# 22   11/21/2016 at 19:13 (332 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
SQ FL Washer

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Hi Your model only had a 3 year Parts and labor warranty.

 

These are real commercial washers, SQs engineers told us that these washers had a design life of around 25,000 loads, at 20 loads this machine could last you around 20 years or so.

 

A washer like yours will require repairs every few years for the next 15 years, a 2nd washer is an excellent idea.


Post# 907959 , Reply# 23   11/21/2016 at 20:01 (332 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I am somewhat surprised as these Speed Queens are far bigger and far superior to my Neptunes for the issues that have happened...

the only issue once I fixed them, was one dryer needed the solenoids replaced twice for the gas valve...and sand from the well plugged the water valves on the washer...

with 10 kids, I didn't think anyone could surpass me with laundry.....I love to do laundry, but there were times it would push your limits...I only started out with two sets, and added from there thanks to this site...

and probably the one time I wished the machines were in the kitchen, to multi task...Launderess is right, an extra machine like a wringer was great for diapers...

Sears Ultra Plus really stretched the detergent budget....how I miss those 5 gallon buckets...

I would recommend two sets, as in another SQ set, stacked, side by side.....


keep us posted on your progress....


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Post# 907981 , Reply# 24   11/22/2016 at 00:52 (331 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
This Web Site is AWSOME

Thank you again to all AW members. The thought has crossed our minds to sell our manufactured home and buy a real home. This home was purchased at a time when times were real tight and it was cheap. We built the floor up for the washer and dryer to set on.

Yogitunes how many loads of laundry does a household with 10 kids do in one week and with that many washers and dryers?

I really feel like this web site is a family of sorts. I feel like there is a real support group here. I am glad that I am not the only one with mountains of laundry.

What is really surprising is that we have had ZERO problems with the dryer. I am lucky for that. The washer will be getting fixed with in the next few days probably on black Friday.

Thru this site I've only heard good news about GE filter flow washers. My mom had a set of these in the early 80's and that is what I grew up with. Would one of these be a good choice for a second washer?

Thanks for all the support from everyone.

David


Post# 907984 , Reply# 25   11/22/2016 at 02:58 (331 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

Reading through your posts here, you mentioned you do up to 30 loads of laundry a week. That works out to nearly four loads of laundry a day!

Since you rely on your washer so heavily, I'd recommend that you consider purchasing another washer and dryer so that the strain on each machine is lessened.

You would also be able to figure out whether or not the problem you are having is consistent with the machine or the problem is somewhere else. I realize that this is an expensive way to troubleshoot an issue, but hear me out.

My other thought is that if the other machine somehow breaks down, you at least have one remaining machine to take over the load until you can get it fixed.

I do honestly think that a larger machine would certainly lessen the number of loads that you are doing, but like other people have said, there are a lot of considerations to take into account.

Regarding your last post, I think that a Filter Flo wouldn't withstand the heavy use that you'd put it through for too long, considering that many of those machines are well over 20 years old now.

If you want to buy a machine on the cheap, then yeah, an SQ top loader might do the trick as a great second machine, but you'd be better off with another front loader IMHO.

Good luck.



Post# 907987 , Reply# 26   11/22/2016 at 04:12 (331 days old) by brucelucenta (tulsa, oklahoma)        

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According to what I have pulled up on line, the washer you have is supposed to have a 3.3 cu ft capacity. The machine I now have is supposed to have a 5 cu ft capacity and certainly holds more than any machine I have ever had before. It is LG made and readily available along with a matching dryer that is 9 cu ft capacity. I use it nearly everyday and have had no issues at all in the last 3 years. It is quiet and efficient with many different features. Don't know exactly what you have in mind, but going with a commercial unit is going to be MUCH more expensive. I would think the cost would be kind of prohibitive. I know that when I used to run a commercial cleaners & laundry, a machine we had that had a 25 pound capacity was about the same size drum as what I have now. The machines I have now are stacked and save room too.

Post# 907992 , Reply# 27   11/22/2016 at 06:39 (331 days old) by Combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
LG and Samsung washers and dryer's for heavy duty use

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These huge capacity washers and dryer's are not designed for maximum use on a regular basis, they are designed to wash the occasional king size comforter etc.  

 

It is irresponsible to suggest somebody buy this Chinese junk for washing continuous heavy duty loads. Bruce you should try washing 50 bath towels and drying them in your LG's time and time again they won't last a month.

 

Over half the speed Queen's built are used with coin boxes and other commercial installations this is not the case with 5 ft. LGs and 9 ft. LG dryers they are in no way commercial heavy duty machines the washers have plastic frames and plastic outer tub's and the dryers that go with them are beyond cheap all you have to do is take one apart and compare it to a speed queen.


Post# 908016 , Reply# 28   11/22/2016 at 08:55 (331 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I guess theres no short way of doing this.....but lets give it a try....

John is right, you can't compare a 1 or 2 person household, versus someone like Dave and the amount of laundry that is generated, most machines would choke...

Dave, whenever you have service on those machines, it would be in your best interest to be right there and watch, and ask plenty of questions.....you will save yourself time and money, plus aggravation if you can do some of this work yourself....

kids 101....any advice I can offer, I am here to help you along....believe me, I learned a lot along the way...work smarter, not harder, yeah, you will have some blunders along the way, we all have.....sounds like you spending most of your time on laundry...


I fully understand your position with children, as we have adopted children, foster children, and listed as a SHiPs home for special needs children...because of the size of the house and 7 bedrooms, we mostly get sibling groups...your home is inspected and held to a higher standard than any home these children have come from..

ages varied from 4 months to 12.....

each kid basically creates one load of their clothing per week....that is not saying I wait until the 7th day to do all of the laundry.....each color group has to build up to make one load.....sometimes you would skip a day as you would not have enough for any given load, or sometimes you combined loads together....most times it was 2 loads a day....a common everyday load was always whites...socks, underwear, towels and such....

to reduce a number of issues, you purchased things in bulk and as odd as this may sound, all white....like a hospital supply place...sheets, pillow cases, blankets and towels....these can wash together, and can be bleached if needed...no puffy, bulky comforters!

for most loads, you can fit 3 of everything, fitted sheet, flat sheet, pillow case and blanket....if you can wash, dry, and put back on the bed, you saved a lot of time right there......but always have backup sets as accidents will happen, sheets and blankets tucked into the pillowcase, one complete bed change ready in an instant....

10 loads a week would be about average.....14 or more would be in extreme cases...with several machines, you get a lot of wash done, very quickly....


dryer sheets are like duct tape, useful for anything but taping duct work....these WILL kill your dryer.....they will create a wax type of film on internal parts and sensors, which attracts lint.....they are useful in many other areas of your home....

also, your washer will last a lot longer with warm and hot washes...bleach once in a while.....and cold washes kept to a minimum



Post# 908052 , Reply# 29   11/22/2016 at 13:43 (331 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
source of leak found

Hello to all. This morning before work I took the lower panel off the SQ to determine leak source and found it. I was washing a load of incontinent pads and water was POURING from all around the boot. The pump assembly was working smoothly and not suds locking. When I run my hand around the boot inside their is a nick in the boot at the top but this was POURING out from around the bottom. Service is ordered and as I said in other statement machine will be back in operation on Black Friday.

David


Post# 908054 , Reply# 30   11/22/2016 at 13:45 (331 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
source of leak found

Hello to all. This morning before work I took the lower panel off the SQ to determine leak source and found it. I was washing a load of incontinent pads and water was POURING from all around the boot. The pump assembly was working smoothly and not suds locking. When I run my hand around the boot inside their is a nick in the boot at the top but this was POURING out from around the bottom. Service is ordered and as I said in other statement machine will be back in operation on Black Friday.

David


Post# 908055 , Reply# 31   11/22/2016 at 13:49 (331 days old) by brucelucenta (tulsa, oklahoma)        

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I dunno John, this Chinese junk has been working really well for me and I have been washing pretty big full loads. No service calls in 3 years so far. In fact, after reading what he was washing, that is one of the many things I have to wash daily in this set and believe me, it is to capacity. Perhaps you could buy another one from John, if he agrees to include lifetime repair. As wonderful as speed queen machines are, he should have no problem with that.



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Post# 908064 , Reply# 32   11/22/2016 at 14:19 (331 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        

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Excellent news!  That should be a fairly easy fix, if not cheap.  It's still cheaper than a whole new machine.

 

I think the general consensus here for a back-up machine would be a SQ top loader or a Whirlpool made (aka Kenmore, Estate, Maytag and more) direct-drive top loader, for which parts are plentiful and repairs are relatively easy.  Well built vintage machines, such as Maytags are hard to kill, but your conditions would be a challenge even for those -- unless you got one that had been recently rebuilt.


Post# 908267 , Reply# 33   11/23/2016 at 17:40 (330 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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can someone give a pic or detail of the control panel.....

I am not noticing a 'clean washer' cycle on any Speed Queen......

quite frankly, like my Neptunes, and Frigidaire Gallery...never had it, never will....with proper washing guidelines and care, see no reason to ever have to needed one....

99% of all loads are hot or warm wash.....bleach used as needed.....never leave the door or dispenser drawer open.....never an issue...

one thing I am curious, has anyone seen a Samsung or LG machine in any Laundromat setting....Maytags and Speed Queens were most common TL machines for years....most Flers were SQ or Milnors

even Neptunes were found in Laundromats.....for the ones located around me, rarely would you see one out of order.....


Post# 908276 , Reply# 34   11/23/2016 at 19:04 (330 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
PWS LAUNDRY.COM

Yogitunes go to PWS Laundry.com you can order manuals and that will show you the control panels. My model is the Control Dial vs. Electronic dial. One dial is for the cycles and one dial is for the water temps, there is a toggle switch for the extra rinse and the start button and 4 operating lights. The model I have is the basic model. The cycles on my machine are as follows:

Regular
Perm Press
Delicate/Bulky
Rinse/Spin
Spin Only

Water temps are as follows:

Cold/cold
Warm/cold
Warm/Warm
Hot/Cold

There is no clean cycle option like there was on our Whirlpool Duet Sport. That machine was a sad disaster did not last long in our home.

The Laundromats around here have the following equipment

1) completely speed queen equipped. The machines are fairly old and are still up and running like champs. This Laundromat is also the cheapest in the area $3.50 for the 50 pound washer, 2.00 for the super20 speed queen double loads and.75 and 1.00 for the top loads (.75) cold wash washers only) 1.00 for all the others.

2) two Laundromats are equipped with dexter double load washer and continental Girbau mega load washers with continental stack dryers. These are fairly expensive mats though.

1) Huebsch mat very small always busy and fair priced.

1) The closest Laundromat to me is equipped with Electrolux machines and about 70 percent of the equipment is broke and the owners are absent so this place is not taken care of. Also this mat is 4.00 for a standard washer 6.00 for the 30lb triple loaders. .25 cents for 4 minutes on the dryers.

Hope this helps

David


Post# 908277 , Reply# 35   11/23/2016 at 19:06 (330 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
PWS LAUNDRY.COM

Yogitunes go to PWS Laundry.com you can order manuals and that will show you the control panels. My model is the Control Dial vs. Electronic dial. One dial is for the cycles and one dial is for the water temps, there is a toggle switch for the extra rinse and the start button and 4 operating lights. The model I have is the basic model. The cycles on my machine are as follows:

Regular
Perm Press
Delicate/Bulky
Rinse/Spin
Spin Only

Water temps are as follows:

Cold/cold
Warm/cold
Warm/Warm
Hot/Cold

There is no clean cycle option like there was on our Whirlpool Duet Sport. That machine was a sad disaster did not last long in our home.

The Laundromats around here have the following equipment

1) completely speed queen equipped. The machines are fairly old and are still up and running like champs. This Laundromat is also the cheapest in the area $3.50 for the 50 pound washer, 2.00 for the super20 speed queen double loads and.75 and 1.00 for the top loads (.75) cold wash washers only) 1.00 for all the others.

2) two Laundromats are equipped with dexter double load washer and continental Girbau mega load washers with continental stack dryers. These are fairly expensive mats though.

1) Huebsch mat very small always busy and fair priced.

1) The closest Laundromat to me is equipped with Electrolux machines and about 70 percent of the equipment is broke and the owners are absent so this place is not taken care of. Also this mat is 4.00 for a standard washer 6.00 for the 30lb triple loaders. .25 cents for 4 minutes on the dryers.

Hope this helps

David


Post# 908280 , Reply# 36   11/23/2016 at 19:15 (330 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
Maybe there will be less laundry...

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Depending on how the kids are, as they are older, they may have better control of their functions. Thus, you may not need to wash as much in the future. I kind of favor my laundry shed idea - you can have the Continental Girbau in there and 2 dryers and a front loader and its a unique place for and the kids to get together. Keep a top loader handy and ready to go if need be. Also, Jon and Kate + 8 had 2 Whirlpool TLs, maybe that will be enough.

Post# 908281 , Reply# 37   11/23/2016 at 19:25 (330 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Those Electrolux Machines

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Are nothing but problems from what one has read on various professional/coin laundry forums.

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Post# 908350 , Reply# 38   11/24/2016 at 11:44 (329 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
"nick in the boot "

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Was reading SQ owner's manual last night and under "troubleshooting" it does list damage to the boot as a possible cause of leaks.

Post# 908352 , Reply# 39   11/24/2016 at 12:28 (329 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Boot Cost?

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Wonder what the boot alone costs...
They're pretty easy to change out!

Malcolm


Post# 908356 , Reply# 40   11/24/2016 at 14:45 (329 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
price of boot

PWS laundry has them listed for 94.00 on line. Boot was ordered, service tech cancelled will save myself some money change it myself.

Post# 908424 , Reply# 41   11/25/2016 at 09:04 (328 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
Changing a SQ FL Washer Boot

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Be sure to apply the grease to the outside of the boot that comes with it, it really improves the life of the boot in heavy use situations.

 

SQ s boot is one of the easy ones to install, many FL washers we see get condemned rather than get a boot changed, Frigidaire products are one of the worst.


Post# 909433 , Reply# 42   12/3/2016 at 00:45 (320 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
The Speed Queen Is up and Running

The boot arrived today and the machine is up and running. It took a little while to get the old boot off and the new boot on. The queen is looking at probably 25 loads on Saturday as she has had to sit while waiting for the boot to arrive.

Post# 909435 , Reply# 43   12/3/2016 at 01:15 (320 days old) by rp2813 (The Big Blue Bubble)        
Glad it's fixed!

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That is one very fast machine if it can get 25 loads done in considerably less than 24 hours!


Post# 909480 , Reply# 44   12/3/2016 at 11:46 (320 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
it takes all weekend

This is my weekend job for this weekend. Yes the washer runs fast roughly 32 minutes per load and that is using the extra rinse option. What slows everything down is the dryer.

Post# 909497 , Reply# 45   12/3/2016 at 16:21 (320 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
"That is one very fast machine"

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Laundromat/commercial washing machines don't mess around. Owners require fast throughput to keep up with peak load times and or fast turn around for customer's orders.

IIRC SQ domestic washers have about the same cycle time as laundromat machines; 30-32 minutes depending upon cycle chosen.

There are of course commercial washers you can program for a variety of cycles. In such instances things might be longer, but don't think you'll find many taking nearly two hours for a "normal" wash load as a matter of routine.


Post# 909511 , Reply# 46   12/3/2016 at 19:34 (320 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        
Dryer as bottle neck

Maybe a trip to the laundromat would help if one is somewhat near. Just wash everything, then go to the laundromat in the evening once to dry the hangover the dryer couldn't get done.

Commercial dryers are way easier to install if a gas supply is avaible. Ventig requirements are usually not much different then on a normal dryer, and due to gas heating, even bigger dryers should run of a 240V or even a 120V outlet.



Post# 909532 , Reply# 47   12/3/2016 at 23:00 (319 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

When I do several back to back loads that the dryer can't keep up with I'll just pull the wet load out and put it in line for the dryer and start the next wash. Easy to do if you have some space and something to set it on. Also make sure your vent is clear and preferably is hard piped. I do a max of 53 minutes on high for a large load of towels, and that's not even with a SQ dryer.

Post# 909539 , Reply# 48   12/3/2016 at 23:54 (319 days old) by luxflairguy (Sumas, WA)        

GusHerb!  Where David is in Astoria, OR is on the northern Oregon coast.  Where there's sunshine and warmth not that many months a year.  It's usually damp, rainy and overcast with lots of fog.  Hardly easy to string up a line of laundry!  

But he's got guts!  A houseful of special needs kids.  He has a bigger heart than many!  Way to go, David!


Post# 909540 , Reply# 49   12/4/2016 at 00:13 (319 days old) by GusHerb (Chicago/NWI)        

"Put it in line for the dryer" I meant as in waiting in line to go in the dryer not put it on a clothesline. I pull stuff out and let it sit until the dryer is empty all the time.

Post# 909550 , Reply# 50   12/4/2016 at 05:20 (319 days old) by brucelucenta (tulsa, oklahoma)        

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Kind of off the subject, but the thing I used to LOVE about my WCIL/DCIL Frigidaire rapidry 1000 set is that the dryer ALWAYS kept up with the washer. In fact, when double rinsing, the dryer was quicker than the washer.

Post# 909559 , Reply# 51   12/4/2016 at 06:54 (319 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Good Point, Bruce

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Maybe the addition of a spin-X would speed up the drying process?

Malcolm


Post# 909612 , Reply# 52   12/4/2016 at 15:35 (319 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Spin-X

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Been there, done that, and am here to tell you it can get old after awhile.

For one or maybe two loads it is fine. But as with any extractor (Hoover TT's included) the noise and vibrations can get on one's nerves after awhile.

All extractors are most stable when loads are even and balanced. However doing that with small basket units such as the Hoover or stand alone spin dryers is often not so easy. Large items like blankets and sheets can be an adventure.

Would *LOVE* to find a Bock or Montex extractor for their larger capacity....




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Post# 909639 , Reply# 53   12/4/2016 at 18:52 (319 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
getting caught up

I have to say thank you to all of you for your responses. I am down to about 6 loads left of laundry and then I will be caught up. So far there has been 16 loads done since Saturday morning. I started around 7:30 and stayed up until 11:30 keeping the machines going strong. I have been hanging some of the smaller loads like the pg 13's and other light weight items up on hangers in the laundry room and bathrooms in order to keep the dryer free for the heavy loads like towels and bedding.

In the summertime I use a clothesline. Since moving here 2 1/2 years ago we have had unusually warm summers and the clothesline is way cheaper.

In response to the extractors I have not seen one in a Laundromat since I was a kid in the late 70's early 80's. The laundrymat in my hometown had philco bendix double load washers 8 orange speed queen solid tub washers, 2 Big Boy washers 2 Hoyt triple load washers and 1 Milnor 35 pound washer, 2 Bock extractors 1 large and 1 small one and 10 Philco bendix 50 pound dryers.

I did not use the Laundromat this time while the machine was down. It is a lot of work to haul numerous barrels and large bags to my closest mat and it probably would have cost easily 75.00 to get it all done.

Once again thank you to all who have shared their thoughts and ideas in this thread.

David


Post# 909654 , Reply# 54   12/4/2016 at 20:00 (319 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
Just for some background...

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Tell us about these kids. Are they your kids or are the foster kids or what is the situation there? If they are yours, I would think that you do not plan to have any more children. Also, as they mature, won't the laundry loads be less as they have more control over their messes?

Post# 909665 , Reply# 55   12/4/2016 at 20:41 (319 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
Neptunebob

Joshua and Caitlyn are mine and my wife's biological children. These kids have a rare genetic disorder called SOTO SYNDROME II and Caitlyn also has SHORT SYNDROME as well. Josh is 15 and Caitlyn is 14. This syndrome incorporates intellectual challenges, autism, skeletal disorders, neurological disorders, visual disabilities (NOT BLIND). We were told in 2004 that there were only 80,000 cases of this syndrome in the world diagnoses since the 1960's so it is considered extremely rare. No one knows what causes the syndrome (s).

Joshua has had 10 surgeries on his ears since he was 2 years old to keep from going deaf, strabismus surgery (eye),orchioplexy surgery ( put his boy berries in the sack) Bi-lateral distal tibia osteotomies ( both legs broken and surgically turned forward as legs were twisted) hardware removal from legs. Joshua was also 9 weeks premature and underwent a very boched birth and was not supposed to live but we have him here now.

Caitlyn has had three big surgeries. She underwent the Distal Bi-lateral tibia osteotomies as well as hardware removal and just last June she went thru what the doctors declared life threatening spine surgery. Caitlyn's spine was wrapping around her right lung and was compressing the lung and pushing the lung into the heart. When the surgeons came out of the OR they said that Caitlyn had one of the worst spines they ever operated on as they never took a spine off of a lung. She was hospitalized 10 days and came home. Caitlyn also suffered a STROKE at 19 months old and the stroke wiped out the part of the brain that controls speech so her ability to communicate is somewhat limited. Caitlyn also has petite mal seizures from time to time and has had 1 super grand mal seizure.

As far as having more children that will not happen. When my wife Susan was pregnant with Caitlyn I went to take care of business if you know what I mean.

As far as laundry goes I think it will slow down in time I think we are at a all time high plateau we are still working on nite time potty training and pull ups and depends are in use it's just a matter of time.

Our lives consist of a lot of doctor office appointments hospital waiting rooms. We also go to Physical therapy, Speech therapy, Occupational Therapy, Developmental Therapy appointments. Somewhere in there we also work full time, go to church and try to have a normal life.

David


Post# 909676 , Reply# 56   12/4/2016 at 22:52 (318 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Kind of an intimate question

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Or maybe it is just me.

Post# 909761 , Reply# 57   12/5/2016 at 14:41 (318 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
Launderess

I did not mean to upset anyone in any way. Neptunebob was just asking about the kids so I just let him know the circumstances of the family. Once again I did not mean to offend anyone.

David


Post# 909762 , Reply# 58   12/5/2016 at 14:46 (318 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA)        
I'm sorry but it just begged the question...

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What could possibly create so much laundry? I was under the impression David had a group home for special needs kids or something like that and they were much younger, or that he was running a day care. I didn't know about the situation you are in, Dave, so forgive me, and I just did not imagine having one of those Milnor machines.

Post# 909765 , Reply# 59   12/5/2016 at 15:42 (318 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        
David

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You can be proud of who you are and how you and your wife care for your children. I sure can understand the amount of laundry you have to do. Seems like almost impossible to do with noral life being already very busy. Are you getting help from relatives or volunteers?

Best wishes,

Louis


Post# 909766 , Reply# 60   12/5/2016 at 15:44 (318 days old) by DavidBlazor (Astoria Oregon)        
your forgiven

Neptunebob your forgiven! There is just a horrendous amount of laundry in our home. The majority of the laundry problem in our home is bedding. There is a minimum of 4 loads a day and that is just for the 2 beds and jammies. The four loads are:

1) sheets ( Both Beds 1 load)
2) Incontinent pads (6) 3 on each bed
3) thermal blankets plus jammies (this load)
4) Bedspreads or light weight blankets

The loads add up and if there is a day of doctor appointments or therapy then the laundry sits until the next day. While waiting for the part to fix the machine the laundry was literally a mountain in the middle of the laundry room. It's a good thing I have strong perseverance to get it all done. There are weekends when a milnor or something similar would be awesome to have.

Dave


Post# 909827 , Reply# 61   12/6/2016 at 00:25 (317 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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