Thread Number: 68370
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CUISINART RECALL! |
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Post# 911123 , Reply# 1   12/14/2016 at 12:09 (2,689 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Post# 911125 , Reply# 2   12/14/2016 at 12:16 (2,689 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 911133 , Reply# 3   12/14/2016 at 13:18 (2,689 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Post# 911136 , Reply# 4   12/14/2016 at 13:55 (2,689 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 911141 , Reply# 6   12/14/2016 at 14:32 (2,689 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)   |   | |
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Post# 911145 , Reply# 7   12/14/2016 at 14:57 (2,689 days old) by washman (o)   |   | |
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Made in China Why am I not surprised? |
Post# 911146 , Reply# 8   12/14/2016 at 15:10 (2,689 days old) by Xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )   |   | |
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Post# 911159 , Reply# 10   12/14/2016 at 17:19 (2,689 days old) by gredmondson (San Francisco, California 94117 USA)   |   | |
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I just ordered the replacement blade for a friend.
I have a 20 cup model with a raft of discs at home I bought on eBay years ago. It must be pretty old, but it works like new. I have had to replace some bowl parts like the lid and sleeve/pusher. It came with the mixer attachment, juicer, and even a sieve that I have never used. |
Post# 911176 , Reply# 11   12/14/2016 at 19:45 (2,689 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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Post# 911177 , Reply# 12   12/14/2016 at 19:52 (2,689 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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I have a DLC SuperPro that I bought brand new in 1983.
I have been through 4 workbowls, 4 covers, 6 or 7 blades but the same motor base and the original cord. This machine has performed heavy service through 6 restaurants I was Chef at, a Private Yacht which I worked on for 7 months and on and on. Pates, Pureed Soups, Chopping, Slicing, Shredding, but again this machine was a product of the original blue prints for a High Quality Machine. The New ones are crap. I highly doubt that the new ones could have stood up to what I have put my Super Pro through. It now resides in semi retirement along with the KD-5 Bowl lift Mixer I purchased from Lechemere in Boston around the same time with the Super Pro. The Mixer has been on the same tour as the Cuisinart. |
Post# 911219 , Reply# 13   12/15/2016 at 08:59 (2,688 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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And there was none of the usual American bullshit nonsense of pretending things aren't what they are. "Don't use it, we'll get one out to you just as soon as we can." Clear and honest.
First genuine thing this company has done in years. I've seen their quality slide downhill the past few years at a sickening rate.
So sad.
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Post# 911221 , Reply# 14   12/15/2016 at 09:31 (2,688 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I think I got my Cuisinart 7 cup back in the early 1990's or late 1980's. I'm assuming the faulty blade is the one that you use to chop and mince stuff, with what look like two wings on it. I rarely use that attachment. In fact I don't know where it is at the moment.
Will have to find it and check for rivets. No other blades are suspect, right? Found the blade... it doesn't say where it was made, but does seem to have rivets. It came with the base machine, which is a "Classic" DLC-10C, Made in USA. The slicing and grating disks are all made in Japan. When I get a chance I'll call Cuisinart but I suspect this particular machine doesn't have the metal failure problem. |
Post# 911222 , Reply# 15   12/15/2016 at 10:00 (2,688 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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Post# 911233 , Reply# 16   12/15/2016 at 11:20 (2,688 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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the recall only applies to blades with a total of four rivets? Here's the official pic. and a link to the page from which one may order a new blade. I phoned them, but this is faster. CLICK HERE TO GO TO panthera's LINK
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Post# 911237 , Reply# 17   12/15/2016 at 11:27 (2,688 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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My DLC-7 Super Pro has the 4 rivet blade. I'll be curious to see if the replacement blade is still stamped "Made in Japan".
Speaking of Goodwill, I found my DLC in a northern Chicago suburb a few years back, with the service stickers still on the base. It was probably used two or three times as most of the blades that came with it still had the protective paper on them.
All for 8.99.
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Post# 911240 , Reply# 18   12/15/2016 at 11:49 (2,688 days old) by philcobendixduo (San Jose)   |   | |
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Post# 911243 , Reply# 19   12/15/2016 at 11:55 (2,688 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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And this differs from 99% of other companies in what way?
Lord Kenmore sighs, cynical thoughts bouncing about inside his head.
I wonder if it's entirely "past few years." I got their really small food processor (the one with bowl that only holds a cup or two) at a thrift store maybe 15 years ago. It worked, but I was never really very impressed with it. I used it, but not heavily, and it didn't seem to last long before one of the buttons broke. Admittedly, I have no idea what the history was like before I got it...but it looked like "low miles" when I got it. And other products they made (as mentioned above) seemed to have lasted forever under heavy use.
I replaced it with a KitchenAid. Also certainly a thrift shop find. I imagine that's not the product that it would have been in the Hobart era, but it has impressed me more.
One thing I note about Cuisinart are their cheap pans. Albertsons did a promotion with them a couple of years ago or so. They didn't seem bad, but they really didn't wow me. They felt like a passable but cheap stainless steel pan. Nothing wrong with that. But the price was higher than other choices. Probably buying the name. I also note they have enamel iron, which I think is Chinese.
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Post# 911244 , Reply# 20   12/15/2016 at 11:56 (2,688 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Post# 911249 , Reply# 21   12/15/2016 at 12:07 (2,688 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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every district is independent. The Denver district has consistent pricing (slightly high) but also consistent discounting policies from week to week. The Nebraska district (under which our town is cursed) has no discounting, not ever and no consistency in their pricing. I picked up a power-line network set there a few days back for a friend. They had the hubs priced at $20/hub. Having learned through the years how to deal with them, I asked the manager to put a date on the hubs, so I could come back in a few weeks and buy them at a realistic price. To my shock, she took me into the office, called up the hubs on the ebay and immediately went down to $4/hub. I know it's hard to price things, gosh it's hard. You just have to have some sort of consistency and discounting - this was a real exception for the our district. Probably the very worst thrift stores on the planet are in Salt Lake City. Uuk - I wouldn't wear anything they sell in those places until it had been disinfected with a bath in the sun. I mean, literally, in the sun. |
Post# 911252 , Reply# 22   12/15/2016 at 12:18 (2,688 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I know Goodwill "systems" are independent, but it's a good point to raise. Many people have a vision of Goodwill as being a big, national chain or something like Target. While I think there is some national "mothership", the stores one shops at are parts of a regional system.
I've been very conscious of that, because there are two major systems in my area. Indeed, I'm in middle between 2 Goodwill stores that belong to different systems. And what makes it fun is that there seem to be logic flaws with how things got divided. I have speculated that some of the division may have simply been whoever came to town first, and planted their flag...
I noticed differences in pricing...but neither system really ever had killer deals. At least, not in recent memory. |
Post# 911266 , Reply# 23   12/15/2016 at 15:19 (2,688 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Goodwill, after all, does good for people trying to earn a living. Some other thrift stores, Habitat in Wyoming comes to mind, are run by gay-bashing haters who impose the worst of Christian dominionism on their staff and customers.
Killer deals, though - you get them every so often. Mainly on items which are of value to people like us but not to the young women with kids at whom their pricing is directed. |
Post# 911274 , Reply# 24   12/15/2016 at 16:25 (2,688 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Fair prices are, I suppose, reasonable for a thrift shop. They do have a mission, and every dollar helps.
Well, good thrift stores have a mission...
But there are bad stores, and I've heard the stories about those.
One thing that gets me about Goodwill pricing isn't so much the killer deal. I love killer deals, and, frankly, at this point it's the only way of getting luxuries. Since my economic downturn, my thrift shopping has mostly been window shopping...with a few practical buys here and there, and the very, very occaisional "fun buy." It's been months since one of those.
Past my problems...the prices are often not that much lower than they are elsewhere. A Goodwill employee wants a can opener, but has decided to buy new. Goodwill has can openers, but they are disgustingly filthy, and not that much cheaper than new. I've heard people mutter: "I could get this for less at Wal Mart!" Someone lectured me about cookware, because it's not that much more expensive getting new at a discount clearance store. My favorite vintage example is a console radio at one store. I'd love a console radio. But the cabinet on this is horrible condition. Finish is totally shot. Hinge on the door over the controls is broken. And--best of all!--all the tubes are gone. And they want $40. I think that's a bit much...but maybe I'm just cheap. Then, again, the way it's just sitting there suggests others think it's a ripoff, too.
And so the list goes on...
I like buying used--partly because I'm frugal--both with my money, and also wanting to see things fully used rather than going to a landfill. But at the prices I see, buying used is less and less appealing, given thatthere is often a search involved. (Let's say I want a muffin tin. That will turn up. But it may not be today's trip. It may not be tomorrow's trip. It may be in a month. Meanwhile, I can make one trip to another store and have a very good chance of finding that muffin tin in stock.) Then, the stuff is used...and often needs attention. Maybe minor fixes. Certainly a good cleaning. |
Post# 911282 , Reply# 25   12/15/2016 at 17:30 (2,688 days old) by DaveAMKrayoGuy (Oak Park, MI)   |   | |
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I have a DLC 2011 N... I filled out the form, so mine is arriving soon...
(Yes, here are the pics of the discs as well as the blades & even the appliance itself!)
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Post# 911287 , Reply# 26   12/15/2016 at 18:14 (2,688 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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It's definitely a treasure hunt - I found a NIB Torrecelli barometer and a Galileo thermometer, both in hand blown glass with a beautiful wooden mount for $10.00 today. It's going to be a Christmas present for someone who appreciates such things. This particular set on Amazon is over $100.00......... And, as said - new in the box. Unopened.
Between oven cleaner, self-cleaning oven and Mother's Mag and Alu cleaning compound, there's little I won't risk in pots, pans and ovenware/Pyrex. I once ran a 3 quart Presto which I'd wanted for decades through the dishwasher for 20+ cycles before the baked in oil and ick finally gave way - just ran it with every load. When they show up on ebay, they're frequently over $50.00 with shipping. Got this for $0.50 Wow.
But, yeah - you never know what you'll find. There's an ARC in Fort Collins which used to have lots of cashmere and silk and really good linen. When they expanded their store, they lost their production space and now all the good stuff goes to Denver, they get a 'consignment'. Bye-bye to the lovely stuff and hello to worn out poly/blend with yellow sweat stains, ring-around-the-collar and that awful smell of High Karate which nothing can ever remove.
Pity our ReStores here are such horrid, hate driven, anti-gay trash-heaps run by horrible people. Just over the borders to the East, North and South the ReStores are beyond words great places. Our Goodwill Stores follow bad policies which have been unchanged and out of date since before WWII - it's the Nebraska District. But - they have people with obvious disabilities out working on the sales floor, something other thrift stores which purportedly have a mission do not do or even punish their management for attempting (like the ReStores in Wyoming.) |
Post# 911310 , Reply# 27   12/15/2016 at 21:31 (2,688 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Well, I'm surprised. It turns out my Made-In-USA DLC 10C chopper blade is subject to the recall. That thing is at least 20 years old, maybe 25 or 30 (Can't remember just what year I bought it).
Thanks going to Panther for posting the link to the recall site. Although I rarely use the chopper blade, better safe than sorry. In any case, it looks like the design of the blade is at fault, not so much the country of manufacture. Although it may be that the ones made off-shore are more susceptible to failure. Who knows? Mine shows no signs of wear or cracking, but there are some signs of minor corrosion on the underside, probably because it sat at the bottom of a kitchen drawer for years (no, I don't scour my kitchen drawer bottoms annually!). |
Post# 911312 , Reply# 28   12/15/2016 at 21:57 (2,688 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 911321 , Reply# 29   12/15/2016 at 23:03 (2,688 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Mine is a ancient Kitchen Aid made by Cuisinart, but its at least 35 years old!!LOL |
Post# 913063 , Reply# 31   12/29/2016 at 21:16 (2,674 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I got an email saying the replacement blade will be delayed due to demand.
Well, those were not the exact words but that's my interpretation thereof. Not a big deal for me, since I rarely use that blade, it's from 1994, and it was *probably* made in Japan or USA. There is no country of origin on the blade. I'm wondering if the later ones say "China" on them? |
Post# 913161 , Reply# 33   12/30/2016 at 14:32 (2,673 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Does anyone remember what the late Julia Child used to say about the plastic blade? "Useless, just throw it away!"
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Post# 913186 , Reply# 34   12/30/2016 at 16:41 (2,673 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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I don't think I tossed it, but I'd be hard pressed to say where that plastic blade is at the moment.
Wasn't it for kneading bread dough or something? How on earth could a Cuisnart properly knead bread dough at the fast speed it rotates? Update: found the plastic blade. Always thought it was useless... Today I made the fixings for crock pot recipe for pulled pork: 9 lbs of pork butt, bone-in with thick fat pad. Recipe called for chopped onions, and I didn't want to do that by hand, so I found the much maligned quad riveted chopping blade and put it to use. It's not hard to figure where the Chinese made ones failed: there's a bend in the end of the blades, sort of like the upturned wing tips on newer passenger jets. I surmise that the Chinese made ones had inappropriate heat treatment before the bending operation, which could have resulted in overly brittle stainless steel and micro cracking. OK, I did very carefully check the blades after chopping three onions, and there was no sign of damage. So I feel pretty comfortable about using this blade occasionally and carefully in the interim. Especially since most of the announcements about the recall cite Chinese made units, and this particular DLC-10C is Made In USA. Oh, and the pork butt is in the crock with seasonings and onions and such, in the fridge for now; will get it going in the Hamilton Beach temp probe equipped slow cooker, first thing in the morning. This should be an interesting recipe - it calls for a cup or two of orange juice... I'm gonna call it "Pulled Pork à l'Orange"... This post was last edited 12/30/2016 at 19:10 |
Post# 913243 , Reply# 37   12/31/2016 at 00:14 (2,673 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 913245 , Reply# 39   12/31/2016 at 01:28 (2,673 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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I think many bakers have problems with the first loaf vanishing fast... My father baked bread when I was young, and my mother years later said she thought one reason he lost interest was that the first loaf of bread went bye-bye in such a short time.
When I first started baking bread, I also noticed the first loaf tended to go quickly. I'd often end up baking late at night (the actual baking), and it was really funny that some nights the bread would be in the oven after my mother had presumably gone to bed. And yet, she'd suddenly materialize after the bread came out. (Yes. we would often cut into bread before one was "supposed" to...)
It's been 20+ years since I kneaded by hand, so I'm not as bothered by single loaves now that vanish quickly.
As for bread machines, they are convenient, but I've never been impressed by the bread. It's probably better than some stuff one can buy, but it's not the same as something baked in a regular oven. Histrorically, my big gripe with bread machines was that they weren't cheap (although now they are a lot cheaper than they had been), and they only do one thing. The advantage of a food processor is that it can do a long list of jobs past bread dough. |
Post# 913253 , Reply# 40   12/31/2016 at 03:05 (2,673 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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Plastic kneading-mixing blade-I remember in one of my Cusinart food processor manuals-they tell you to use the kneading blade if you are making the max recipe of dough in the machine-not only to prevent cutting gluten-but also to prevent overheating the motor! |
Post# 913257 , Reply# 41   12/31/2016 at 03:33 (2,673 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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So put a 1/4 baking sheet on the floor of the oven and toss the ice cubes onto that.
Simple problems often have simple solutions. Use common sense. Also, if you are making multiple loaves of bread in a day, then you're getting into commercial kitchen territory anyway. Forget the Happy Homemaker excuses. |
Post# 913275 , Reply# 43   12/31/2016 at 07:47 (2,672 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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I certainly did not intend to open an extra-large, family-size can of worms! I was simply stating something I recall Julia Child saying on her early PBS show in keeping (slightly) with the Cuisinart blade topic. She also said "use genuine vanilla extract, the other (imitation) has a cheap, bad taste". I'm sure many people use a good quality vanilla flavoring and get excellent results. No food connoisseur could ever tell the difference. With my baking skills, I could use the most pricey vanilla extract or a quart bottle of flavoring from the 99 Cent Store and the results would be the same...lousy.
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Post# 913293 , Reply# 44   12/31/2016 at 10:50 (2,672 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Well my eyes had glazed over before I got to the line about cast iron. Yes, that would be better than a 1/4 baking tray. And I imagine a lot of older ovens simply have thick iron bottoms anyway, especially the big monsters from France. Others I've seen have lost their enamel long ago, if ever they had it to begin with. Of course some anal retentive cooks may be sitting there with a sponge on a stick to catch any drippings before they cause a problem ;-).
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Post# 913304 , Reply# 45   12/31/2016 at 12:13 (2,672 days old) by Dermacie (my forever home (Glenshaw, PA))   |   | |
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Post# 913336 , Reply# 46   12/31/2016 at 16:09 (2,672 days old) by Sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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It was my educated guess that the problem was with the bend at the tips of the blades.
However after doing some more internet searching I found some photos of failed, or close to failed, riveted chopping blades. It appears that the problem is at the rivets, and the blades start to fail there when the metal cracks. I still think the problem is improperly heat treated stainless steel, that is too brittle to be able to stand the stresses from the riveting, and being held in place during high speed impacts by only rivets. Like I also said, I have rarely used the chopping blade, and used it yesterday with no sign of cracking or separation. It will probably be a while before Conair is able to manufacture enough replacements to ship me one, so I will be reluctant to use the riveted blade again, and if I must, it will get a very close inspection both before and after use. Then it will go into the curio cabinet with red tag. LOL. That said, the rivets on my blade do like a bit different from those in the attached second photo. In that one, the rivets are thicker and more squared off than mine, which are more shallow and rounded. I wonder if the more shallow rivets put less stress on the blade metal. On the other hand, the rivets in the first photo look more rounded than those in the second photo, although it's hard to say if they are as shallow as the one that came with my food processor. Also, I read that some of the failed blades were made in Japan, so this is not exclusively a Made In China problem, and points more to a faulty initial design. |