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Post# 919114   2/4/2017 at 04:02 (311 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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I managed to get this washer from an employee at work who decided to replace the set when their dryer died. I had never seen one in person before and thought it'd be a neat machine to have. I tore the whole thing down and scraped/scrubbed it, replaced the basket, and upgraded the agitator. It came out really clean and pretty and I can't wait to try it out on some laundry!

I've run it through a couple cycles empty now during the clean out process and it is quite an interesting beast! The rinse is a fascinating sequence repeated 6 times. I'll be sure to post some videos when I get back from a vacation in Florida!

P.S. WSSR stands for Water Saving Spray Rinse.


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Post# 919116 , Reply# 1   2/4/2017 at 04:10 (311 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Great find, this machine has been discussed several times here. It looks very shiny now. I found the temperature controls always a bit odd. You can get a hot soak or prewash, but not a hot wash. 100 degrees F is the max. temperature for the main wash. Ofcourse you can work around this by filling the machine on the soak cycle and then advance to the main wash, but I wonder how often normal users would do that. Looking forward to your video. Enjoy your vacation!

Post# 919130 , Reply# 2   2/4/2017 at 07:58 (311 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
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Is this the machine where a solenoid kicks in and diverts the rinse water back out the fill flume? I've seen the commercial version of this machine, and it is a really cool technology. Personally I would pick this over spray rinses.

Post# 919140 , Reply# 3   2/4/2017 at 09:02 (311 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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How interesting, John L. has talked about this machine for years but I've never seen one in the wild to bring home. I vaguely remember them in stores when new, but didn't remember the selections for water temps. It'll be interesting to see what you think of it. Have fun In Florida :-)



Post# 919148 , Reply# 4   2/4/2017 at 09:35 (311 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)        

Pulsator Hi, this is a model that I've only seen in catalogs. I did not think he even existed. I would love to see a video of this washer making the sequence of rinses and spin.

Thanks!! ;)


Post# 919185 , Reply# 5   2/4/2017 at 12:35 (311 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

Are there any videos of this unit performing the spray rinses? These machines have always intrigued me.

Post# 919186 , Reply# 6   2/4/2017 at 12:37 (311 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        
Edit

Oh nevermind didn't see that in the post

Post# 919719 , Reply# 7   2/6/2017 at 15:45 (309 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)        

I do not want to be pushy, but I really love to see some videos of this very rare washer.

Post# 920061 , Reply# 8   2/8/2017 at 11:12 (307 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The original ones offered the diverter valve recirculation of the rinse water. I believe John told me that the newer ones just spray rinse from the fill valve.


Post# 920398 , Reply# 9   2/9/2017 at 18:55 (306 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Jamie, Great find, I completely restored this exact machine and it will soon be installed in my everyday home laundry room.

 

This earlier version did SIX recirculated spray rinses, the next version did Five RSRs after WP found that 5 were more than enough.

 

We sold around 100 of these washers over the several years WP produced them and customers really liked this machine [ I did a service call on one yesterday that needs a transmission and clutch and the customer after looking at what is available today said he would spend $350 fixing a 15 YO machine ]

 

I think you will enjoy this washer, post some videos of the cool rinsing action. I our testing of this washer the 6 RSRs rinse at least as well as two deep rinses and only use about `1/4 the water of TDRs.

 

The reason they allowed a hot prewash was so you could fill the washer on prewash with hot water and reset the timer for the regular cycle if you wanted a really hot wash.


Post# 920404 , Reply# 10   2/9/2017 at 19:10 (306 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Recirculate rinsing presumably is same function as the Catalyst pretreatment, making use of the same diverter valve.  Same very minimal level of water, or more for rinse dilution?


Post# 920505 , Reply# 11   2/10/2017 at 10:21 (305 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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This particular machine does 6 recirculated spray rinses. I love the clunk of the solenoid! The resting position for the diverter in this machine is recirculating rather than drain which I found interesting. The water level is very minimal for the recirc. It has a separate water level switch mounted to the rear panel inside the cabinet that measures water level in a chamber external to the tub. It sort of reminds me of a Maytag A806 with the "timed bleach" dispenser.

As soon as I'm home From Florida I'll make a video of it running through its cycle. (Particularly the rinses!)


Post# 926244 , Reply# 12   3/11/2017 at 15:08 (276 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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It took wayyyyy longer than I intended, but the video has been recorded and edited! Once it publishes, I'll upload it to YouTube and post it on here for everyone to see.


P.S. I swapped the agitator again... Now it's the large vane KitchenAid!


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Post# 926285 , Reply# 13   3/11/2017 at 20:05 (276 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
And finally...

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Here is the video! Enjoy!

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Post# 926293 , Reply# 14   3/11/2017 at 20:22 (276 days old) by Wishwash (Illinois)        

I must say that is really cool. I never knew Whirlpool made anything like that. Do you find everything sufficiently rinsed at the end of a cycle?

Post# 926294 , Reply# 15   3/11/2017 at 20:23 (276 days old) by washerdude (Canada )        

This video was GREAT! I've always wanted to see WSSR machines in action. The sprays are nice and long and appear to be way more effective than today's spray rinses on today's top loaders. If anything, I really hope WP reintroduces these units.

Post# 926296 , Reply# 16   3/11/2017 at 20:29 (276 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Do you find everything sufficiently rinsed...?

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I was skeptical about the rinsing at first... So I did a little test... a giant load of towels! I let it run all the way through the cycle, then set it for a deep fill rinse. The water was sparkling clear and not a bubble in sight. Good enough for me!

Post# 926305 , Reply# 17   3/11/2017 at 21:17 (276 days old) by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Incredible.

I always figured this is how these machines worked, but it is even better than imagined. I have been waiting for this video for a month! It is interesting to see how it slipped into spin after the wash despite having the "heavy duty" clutch. Also, it appeared to run high speed spin even with the Low/Low setting? That I LIKE! But not as much as the KicthenAid agitator. That I love. Thanks for the video!

Post# 926355 , Reply# 18   3/12/2017 at 07:14 (275 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I'm sure it should have done a neutral drain after the wash.

Wash agitation looks like low speed to me.  The (spin-)drain is high, then it shifts to low for two mins after the pause, back to high at 14:05 for the rest of the rinse & spin.  The "fills" for recirculation are about 18 seconds each.

Interesting that the rinse recirculation is at high spin.  The Catalyst model runs at low spin (medium motor speed) for the Catalyst treatment.  The diverter valve functions the same on the Catalyst, neutral is recirculate, energizes for drain.


Post# 926358 , Reply# 19   3/12/2017 at 07:53 (275 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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Glenn, you're right about several things.

It was supposed to do a neutral drain, the kit must be worn out though. It does do a neutral drain occasionally but it usually does not.

In regards to the spin and agitation speeds, the picture I show of the console at the beginning of the video shows the settings I used for that load of sheets. Since I have the large vane KitchenAid agitator in there, I set it for low agitation... Unfortunately, that also means a low speed spin. But, this machine is very interesting in that regard. The speed control knob lets you control the speed of agitation for the wash and then the speed of the first two minutes of the wash spin. After that it bypasses any settings you chose (in regards to speed) and goes to high speed spin to extract more sudsy water before going into the recirculated spray rinses and it finishes the cycle out in high speed. My guess is that this is because it's supposed to be a resource saver so it's just trying to be more energy efficient when it comes to the next step in the laundry process.

I will say, I wish they had shifted the spin down to low speed (2 speed motor in this washer) for the rinses. I've noticed (and I can't quite pin down what causes it) but there will be a small puddle of water on the floor behind the machine after the spray rinses (roughly 2/3 of the time). It's coming from the opposite side of the recirc diverter/tank assembly. I think it's just splashing water out over the tub and onto the floor. It probably wouldn't do that if it was on low speed! There is a rubber guard visible around the D-well and another foam guard on the tub ring (not visible) but I just don't think it was enough!


Post# 926368 , Reply# 20   3/12/2017 at 10:57 (275 days old) by combo52 (Beltsville,Md)        
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Hi Jamie, Glad you got this washer and put in back into use, as many of you remember we were big fans of this machine back when it was introduced and our company sold over 100 of these cool efficient washers. And customers loved this washer, many still have them and are still having us repair them, I just put a rebuilt transmission, clutch and water pump in one a week ago.

 

One of the cool things about the rinsing is the washer uses more or less water for each fill according the the amount of clothing in the tub, if you have say just two shirts in there it will only fill for about 5 seconds each time and a huge load of towels will fill for more than 20 seconds each time. The machine does need to use the fast spin speed however because this not only improves the final water extraction, but also increases the rinsing performance by spinning more of the soapy water out through out the spin-rinsing process.

 

This washer would [ like most DD washers with a few miles on them ] do neutral drains if you were using the fast agitation speed, as it warms up the transmission better. And while the big KA agitator is cool the orignal WP agitator really does a better job cleaning in this washer.

 

These washers were splashy during the rinse cycle, there was a splash guard attached to the top and a splash guard attached to the edge of the outer cover, and some foam barriers inside of the cabinet to stop spray and splatter from leaking on the floor, be sure all these barriers are in place. We never had a leak complaint on one of these washers [ we did see a lot of badly rusted washer tops however ]and also replaced a lot of rusted tops, WP should have used a porcelain enameled top on this model.

 

We have one of these washers now in our warehouse in good condition if someone wants one.

 

John L.


Post# 926369 , Reply# 21   3/12/2017 at 11:27 (275 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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Great video Jamie! Quite an intriguing washer! I think I counted six spray rinses, is that correct? Do you know how much water it saves with a full load in comparison to the traditional Whirlpools from that time?

Post# 926378 , Reply# 22   3/12/2017 at 12:49 (275 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)        

Very nice washer.. So simple, so iconic.. Tks for the video.

Post# 926408 , Reply# 23   3/12/2017 at 15:11 (275 days old) by Johnb300m (Chicago)        
spin drains?

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Are there not durability issues with Whirlpool direct drives doing spin drains with the thin plastic tub?
Won't they rupture after a while with all that stressful spinning water?
And will that not overheat and wear out the clutches?

Just curious.


Post# 926412 , Reply# 24   3/12/2017 at 16:46 (275 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
Spin draining

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I have never seen a plastic tub break on these from repeated spin draining. It does wear the clutch out though, at least faster, but not by over heating. My understanding is that the original DD were spin-drainers (the ones with the GE FF style clothing guards) and latter switched to neutral drain due to excessive clutch wear from what repair men have told me.

As for spin draining as they age- I've seen this with many DD washers and it happened to several that I owned. It seems at first to only happen on low speed agitation, then intermittently on the first high speed wash, and then eventually all the time. The problem appears to take place on newer DDs far more than the older ones- at least appearing quicker in age- in my limited observation.

FWIW, the first DD washer I ever payed attention to while running was faulty so I assumed all were like that. Later on repairing it (motor coupler) with no separate drain pump further reinforced my notion- I was clueless. It was not until we bought a newer used model where I discovered the creature would neutral drain and assumed it was defective. When the appliance tech told me all DD Whirlpool washers were supposed to neutral drain for the first two minutes the look on my face was priceless lol. I remember telling him "but thats not physically possible, there is no separate drain pump" "not even drain valve or transmission actuator" Despite having mechanical experience from an early age, it was not until I read a DD service manual for the first when I learned what a spin pawl was. My surprise lol.




Post# 926561 , Reply# 25   3/13/2017 at 11:51 (274 days old) by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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the first one of these I saw had three jets built into the splash shield.....

this must be the newer updated design....although I would have thought the triple sprayers would have better coverage...

would seem to have lesser spray back if the water was directed from under the splash shield, rather than over top......

surprised too that they didn't use the splash shield from Catalyst Machine....or incorporate this Resource Saver into that machine....

would have thought the spin would have slowed down for the saturation, and then speed up to extract.....

still, all in all, this seems to be effective.....


Post# 926571 , Reply# 26   3/13/2017 at 12:28 (274 days old) by Pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
makes me miss my old inglis superb 2 direct drive washer

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it makes me miss my old direct drive inglis superb2 washer that was made by whirlpool seeing this beauty save is good

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