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Post# 925916   3/9/2017 at 22:44 by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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I can't believe the Whirlpool FL washer only used 7 gallons of water for an 8lb load! It must have been tested on the normal cycle, which is the most frugal with water. I remember someone posting that it doesn't spin between the first and second rinse, which would reduce water usage..

The Whirlpool link in the article is interesting. It says that the clean washer cycle recalibrates the water level on their HE TL washers, possibly resulting in more water use.


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Post# 925921 , Reply# 1   3/9/2017 at 23:28 by washerdude (Canada )        

Our WFW72HEDW, does indeed not spin between the first rinse and the final rinse (second). I do notice on certain loads on the final rinse on the NORMAL cycle, the water DOES splash everywhere in the tub, and I see no more soap. I rarely ever use extra rinse on any cycle unless its quick wash. I guess removing the spin between the first and second rinse would also help to lower the cycle time too.

Post# 925924 , Reply# 2   3/10/2017 at 00:37 by Logixx (Germany)        

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Yes, no spin between the 1st and 2nd rinse.






Post# 925951 , Reply# 3   3/10/2017 at 06:02 by retro-man (nashua,nh)        

Wait wait wait, what happened to the 10 minute balancing act on the final spin. I have never seen mine go into the final spin and stay there. Even if perfectly balanced it stops and then restarts if not once than many times. How did they do this?

Jon


Post# 925954 , Reply# 4   3/10/2017 at 06:17 by Wishwash (Illinois)        

Speaking of the final spin, it's about 20 minutes long! Does this really net any benefit over a standard spin?

Post# 926006 , Reply# 5   3/10/2017 at 10:40 by golittlesport (California)        
no spin between the first and second deep rinse

...just like the Westinghouse Laundromats of days gone by.

Post# 926011 , Reply# 6   3/10/2017 at 11:43 by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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pay close attention.....

an 8lb load for a Normal cycle is more than sufficient to clean and rinse.....that is all that is required.....

so your machine's tub is big enough to hold a much larger load....but not effective at cleaning....well, its done it job at for the requirements of the govt restrictions for an 8lb AHAM load....and that's it!....

that's also what I was told by Frigidaire when my FLer didn't seem to add enough water for my liking.....I think it was something like 5 bath towels for a load, if it could wash those, that met the criteria....just seemed like a lot of wasted drum space if I couldn't wash any more.....

so much for the adaptive fills!....I had to create a device to make it add more water per load.....


Post# 926022 , Reply# 7   3/10/2017 at 13:24 by RevvinKevin (Between Mickey Mouse & the Queen Mary (So. Cal.)        
I had to create a device to make it add more water per load.

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The problem I've found with this is, depending on the machine, there's a fine balance between adding more water, but not so much that it "thinks" there's an over suds or over fill condition.

 

I have 4 (electronic control) FL washers connected that I use every week.  On both my 2005 LG and (WP built) 2009 Kenmore He5t, I can add some water, but if I add too much it will either go immediately into drain (too much added), or into drain after only 4-5 minutes of wash time (less water added).

 

The May-sung Neptune MAH9700 has a mechanical water level switch and I was easily able to increase the water level.  The 2003 Kenmore He3 has a bit higher water level and I've not tried adding any water to it yet.

 

Kevin


Post# 926028 , Reply# 8   3/10/2017 at 13:44 by henene4 (Germany)        

7 gal for an 8 lbs load seems efficent indeed. EU washers use about 7-9gal on an equivalent rating cycle (that would be the 7kg washer class on its half load tests).

Post# 926030 , Reply# 9   3/10/2017 at 13:52 by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, if your just adding water....that can trigger the overflow/oversuds sensor, and cause the drain pump to activate....

if your adjusting the pressure switch, some have 2 or 3 screws that need adjusted equally.....you can't adjust the water level higher than the overflow setting, it will trigger it every time....

BUT.....if you make it think its at its proper setting....the trigger will never happen....unless a real overflow was to happen...

were always looking for ways to get around the technical set-ups of some machines, where a simple screw cannot be used for adjustment...


just make the machine *think* its running the program as designed....


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Post# 926032 , Reply# 10   3/10/2017 at 13:53 by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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yeah, if your just adding water....that can trigger the overflow/oversuds sensor, and cause the drain pump to activate....

if your adjusting the pressure switch, some have 2 or 3 screws that need adjusted equally.....you can't adjust the water level higher than the overflow setting, it will trigger it every time....

BUT.....if you make it think its at its proper setting....the trigger will never happen....unless a real overflow was to happen...

were always looking for ways to get around the technical set-ups of some machines, where a simple screw cannot be used for adjustment...


just make the machine *think* its running the program as designed....


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