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Thread Number: 69794
/ Tag: Detergents and Additives
Lysol Laundry Sanitizer |
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Post# 927358 3/16/2017 at 23:40 (2,596 days old) by Joe_in_philly  (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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I saw this at ACME last week. Is it new? I didn't see it on the Lysol website.
Since it requires 16 minutes of contact time during the rinse, it requires user intervention to pause the machine. I imagine many people will just add it to the fabric softener dispenser and hope for the best. | ||
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Post# 927418 , Reply# 1 3/17/2017 at 07:53 (2,596 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 927453 , Reply# 3 3/17/2017 at 12:54 (2,596 days old) by Gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA) |
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Language is odd. Directions repeatedly refer to "Rinse Cycle Wash". So which is it, Rinse Cycle or Wash? Seems to me there was an additive years ago, maybe in the 80's that was added to the Wash Cycle. It makes more sense to me unless the manufacturer wants a residual left on the clothing. | ||
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Post# 927512 , Reply# 4 3/17/2017 at 20:32 (2,595 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Everything old is new again.... The stuff is quat based sanitizer similar those offered by Persil, Sagrotan and other hygienespüler products found in Europe or elsewhere. ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/445... Quat based sanitizers and disinfectants have long been used by in healthcare and other industries including commercial laundries. However as they are inactivated by soils and overcome by too much "germs" they are usually always used on surfaces or whatever that is cleaned first. Sort of the "last mile" of sanitation if you will. Quat based cleaners or whatever are used in food prep and other places because it is a "no rinse" solution to sanitation. | ||
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Post# 927522 , Reply# 5 3/17/2017 at 21:50 (2,595 days old) by Joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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Post# 927534 , Reply# 6 3/17/2017 at 23:20 (2,595 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Apparently there are a few different scents for this product.
www.kellysolutions.com/mn/showAI.... Dust mites? www.kellysolutions.com/mn/showpes... www.kellysolutions.com/mn/showpro... Things that make you go "hmmmmm". pgpro.com/brands/bacstop-fabric-s... What you need to know about quats: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary... www.foodsafetymagazine.com/magazi... | ||
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Post# 927542 , Reply# 7 3/17/2017 at 23:37 (2,595 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI) |
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I liked an used the Lysol powered sanitizer for years, still have a brick of a box of it in my laundry cabinet. | ||
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Post# 927595 , Reply# 8 3/18/2017 at 13:56 (2,595 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA) |
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Post# 927711 , Reply# 9 3/18/2017 at 23:34 (2,594 days old) by Supersuds (Knoxville, Tenn.) |
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| Post# 927729 , Reply# 10 3/19/2017 at 03:29 (2,594 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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| Post# 927730 , Reply# 11 3/19/2017 at 04:03 (2,594 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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Post# 927741 , Reply# 12 3/19/2017 at 08:02 (2,594 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Post# 927762 , Reply# 13 3/19/2017 at 13:31 (2,594 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Stupidity is as lethal as any other pathogen. | ||
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Post# 927768 , Reply# 14 3/19/2017 at 15:07 (2,594 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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In Europe
Purpose of these "hygiene rinses" was for laundry that couldn't or shouldn't be washing in hot or boiling water and or dried in a hot dryer. That and of course couldn't be subjected to bleach, chlorine or oxygen. Things like Lycra and other man made fibers, and or "fine laundry".
These were important as the move for female "intimate apparel" began to move from pure cotton or linen to various wholly or partially man made blends. In order to cope with a bout of; well, yeast infections, and or for women prone to such or had other issues, these rinses were meant for their undergarments that couldn't be "sanitized" by normal laundering methods. For the men it was athlete's' foot and socks that again could not withstand harsh laundering. Persil and others latched onto the increasing trend of not only warm or cold water being increasingly used for laundry (all those "turn the dial down" advert campaigns), but the fact many items of clothing or household textiles come with care labels specifying "warm or cold wash, no bleach". Unlike decades ago when everything was mostly pure cotton or perhaps linen, and was white or colorfast, much clothing or textiles today are colors and or made from fabrics that cannot (in theory) be subjected to the hot and often harsh washing of past. So to add the measure of "security" you use a sanitizing laundry rinse. There is also the trend towards using liquid detergents which not only do not contain bleaches, but lack the sanitizing power of alkaline substances. That whiff you get in your kit or shirt underarms is normally taken care of by the fact human perspiration normally is acidic. Alkaline substances obviously will cancel that out, and in the case of some other substances such as Borax have (mild) disinfecting qualities. Some liquid detergents in past and today claim and maybe do deal with "whiff", others not so much. www.amazon.com/Persil-Hyg... All this being said, no, you do not need any sort of hygiene rinse, especially if using good hot water and a detergent with bleach, and or adding it separate. But for those who cannot or will not.... | ||
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Post# 927773 , Reply# 15 3/19/2017 at 15:33 (2,594 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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And further more to that!
As one who has sat through a bacteriology class and lab am here to tell you the number of diseases transmitted by contact with textiles is rather low to nil. Maybe smallpox, "flesh eating" strep and a limited amount of others, but for all intents and purposes long as one is healthy with intact skin, germs aren't an issue on fabrics.
Now if one suspected such and or as in the case of say healthcare laundry, you aren't going to be mucking about with a sanitizing rinse. Well you might as an extra measure, but generally things would go the same as they have for 100 to 200 years. Plenty of hot water, lots of detergent and bleaching (chlorine or oxygen). Then a trip through a hot dryer and or ironed with a hot iron will be more than enough to kill off anything that could harm. | ||
| Post# 927825 , Reply# 16 3/19/2017 at 22:09 (2,593 days old) by Stan (Napa CA) | ||
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Can't temember | ||
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Post# 927904 , Reply# 17 3/20/2017 at 09:53 (2,593 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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Launderess, are you a Nurse too??? I've picked up on several cues that you might be.
Same here Stan. Heck, this Miele will even allow a hot rinse if I desire, I just have to change the programming for it to do it. But I think that would be overkill.
I remember that lysol powder. My mother used it back then. Now days, if I want to sanitize my color uniforms I just wash them in hot or very warm with a little Lysol liquid...been doing it for years and never had a problem.
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Post# 927926 , Reply# 18 3/20/2017 at 12:00 (2,593 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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It would be annoying to have to catch a front-loader during the final rinse and pause it for 16 minutes. However....if Lysol's Laundry Sanitizer becomes a big seller, I could see manufacturers adding a 'Sanitizing Rinse' option that would automatically extend the final rinse, much as some machines have an 'oxi' option, which releases oxygen cleaners at the right time during the wash.
In fact, wouldn't it be interesting if manufacturers dropped the traditional Sanitize cycle (which heats water for an extended period) in favor of this method of sanitization? Better watch my mouth; the Sanitize cycle is the one option for truly hot water on my Maytag 8100. While I'm a die-hard liquid chlorine bleach guy, Lysol Laundry Sanitizer would certainly come in handy for non-bleachable loads. This is why all bed, bath, and kitchen linens as well as undergarments in my house are white. This post was last edited 03/20/2017 at 16:47 | ||
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Post# 927933 , Reply# 19 3/20/2017 at 13:03 (2,593 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Some Mieles could just be reset to the STARCH cycle which is a 16 minute rinse, but 16 minutes of tumbling could cause oversudsing.
BTW, you are asking for trouble washing panties and socks together in cold water. | ||
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Post# 927978 , Reply# 20 3/20/2017 at 20:21 (2,593 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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@askolover
"are you a Nurse too?"
No, luv. Did about a year of training then switched majors at college. T'was a different world then, all whites, caps, pillow-plumbing and bed making. The idea of spending one's life at it just didn't seem ideal at the time, especially for the money they were paying. Fast forward to now many of my classmates who stuck with it are earning very good money $90k or more per, so that's me for you. | ||
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Post# 927980 , Reply# 21 3/20/2017 at 20:25 (2,593 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Starch cycle on front loaders
My AEG OKO-Lavamat has a "rinse/starch" cycle, as does the old Miele. However think many other vintage and even modern front loaders still offer this function. Though one assumes starching isn't done that often and the thing is used more to rinse things more thoroughly. That, and or "rinse and spin" for items wanting damp for ironing or just need freshening.
IIRC Speed Queen front loaders have (or had) a separate "rinse and spin" function, but they do not recommend starching in washer. | ||
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Post# 928435 , Reply# 22 3/23/2017 at 10:04 (2,590 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD) |
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Our 1965 WH FL with the side swing door had the word "Starch" in the 3rd rinse on the regular cycle. | ||
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Post# 928498 , Reply# 25 3/23/2017 at 15:22 (2,590 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Won't work I'm afraid.
One of my favourite scenes from the television show M*A*S*H was head OR nurse, Major Margaret Houlihan instructing a GI (who clearly was not interested in the job) in how to mop the OR floors.
"Solider, the mop goes *IN* the bucket...... In order for these laundry disinfectants to work properly things must be immersed in the solution. Think about another quat based disinfectant, that jar of green liquid on every barber's or hairdresser's table; Barbicide en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbicide... Combs, brushes and so froth must be immersed in a properly made up solution for a minimum period of time to be considered "sanitized" or "disinfected". All disinfectants and or sanitizers have what is know as contact time parameters. Unless something is labeled (and test verified) to kill germs "on contact", everything else will give an amount of time things must be immersed and or solution left on contact with surface. If you drain away the solution using any of these laundry disinfectants there isn't enough residue action to continue killing germs. In a washing machine the constant motion of agitation be it tumbling, a central beater or whatever keeps washing bathed and or immersed in disinfecting solution. With a front loader if you stop the machine unless all items are submerged in water, the things above water line will simply see water pool away. With that water goes the disinfecting solution. www.google.ch/patents/US5... library.ndsu.edu/tools/dspace/loa... CLICK HERE TO GO TO Launderess's LINK | ||
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