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Post# 929937   3/31/2017 at 14:29 by Johnny42 (Glasgow)        

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Whatever happened to miracle ACDO washing powder. I remember this stuff as a kid. I loved the smell of it. I remember it was great in Twin tubs and I think the powder was a sort of yellow colour ?. Does anyone also remember the mini box of ACDO costing around 50p ?




Post# 929941 , Reply# 1   3/31/2017 at 14:47 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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I have seen a few packets in the "Home Bargains" low-cost store.

As far as I can fathom, the powder is supposedly soap based, possibly with oxygen bleach. There are no enzymes in the formulation.

I don't know how it performs, as I've never used it.


Post# 929943 , Reply# 2   3/31/2017 at 14:59 by Johnny42 (Glasgow)        
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Rolls rapide

Yeah, it was soap based. You didn't need to use much of it in the washing machine as it was rather soapy. It was best used in twin tubs and top loaders. It wasn't too great in front loaders. You could always tell if someone had washed their clothes in ACDO as it had such a distinct fragrance.

John


Post# 929972 , Reply# 3   3/31/2017 at 17:09 by optima (Cumbria England)        
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Can remember those small ACDO Soap powder boxes & the concentrated yellow colour from the early 80s as a kid. The smell was unique & i loved it !

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Post# 930050 , Reply# 4   4/1/2017 at 08:45 by Paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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As Rolls says, Acdo is on sale in Home Bargains and also at Precinct Bizarre


www.precinctbazaar.co.uk/product/...


Hears a link to Acdo's website

acdo.co.uk/...


Post# 933101 , Reply# 5   4/18/2017 at 08:24 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
I tried it...

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I eventually got around to trying ACDO washing powder.

It actually smells quite nice in the box - a soapy, yet relatively understated fragrance.

A small load of laundry and about 40ml of the powder, in the Panasonic NA-168XR1. No other product used, no fabric conditioner. On the Econavi-Autocare programme.

The machine weighed the load and calculated 1hr 18mins to complete. So far, so good.

Water intake and the soap powder flushed away cleanly.

Drum speed increased to distribution speed in order to mix the solution: virtually no foam... (Other detergents do foam up at this stage).

Wash continued, spray jets periodically activated, no foam, but some undissolved particles observed by me, on the door glass.

The machine wash obviously looking too, 'cos...

Wash time reduced normally until about 1hr 07mins, then increased in a flash, to 1hr 37mins! (I nearly had kittens...)

Wash continued, virtually no foam. Particles eventually dissolved quite cleanly.

Drained and spun okay with about 45 minutes to go. That was odd - with other detergents, the rinses kick in at about 35 mins, and do two rinses only.

This time, 3 rinses activated. Intermediate spins between rinses operated fine. No foam.

Final rinse had the faintest sensation of a few tiny soap bubbles on the door glass.

Spin activated smoothly.

When unloading, I saw chalky tide-mark deposits on the upper reaches of the door glass, where the spray jets had trickled/dribbled as they were switched on and off.

Laundry smells clean, and looks clean. No overpowering artificial stench of flowers.

Obviously the machine's 'all seeing eye' detected the cloudiness of the wash water, increased wash time and temperature, and added an extra rinse - all automatically, of course.

Liquid detergents on the other hand, seem, because they're more transparent in solution, to allow the machine to default to a shorter, speedier cycle (the usual 1hr 18mins with only two rinses).

This Panasonic is really NOT liking Ariel Liquid. For some reason, Ariel Liquid is leaving a pungent, sour smell in the machine that is transferred into the laundry. It doesn't matter whether fabric conditioner is used or not, either. I never had the problem with the previous Panasonic machine. I think there is some kind of reaction between Ariel liquid and the rubber compounds in the seals and hoses. Not nice at all. Powders though, seem to wash fine with no pungent smell.


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Post# 933144 , Reply# 6   4/18/2017 at 13:36 by Liberatordeluxe (Chelmsford, United Kingdom)        

Good news for me it's Vegetarian. Does it smell like Persil non BIOLOGICAL?

Post# 933147 , Reply# 7   4/18/2017 at 14:11 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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I would say no, it doesn't smell like Persil Non-Biological.

Probably, in the box, it smells more like Lux Soap Flakes.

I was trying to compare the fragrance earlier on, today. I came to the conclusion that the laundry, once line dried, smelt more like it had been washed with a bar of "Simple" Toilet Soap - only a tad stronger.



Post# 933308 , Reply# 8   4/19/2017 at 07:31 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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I tested another load with ACDO.

The composition of the powder is quite similar to Ariel Ultra Compact powder. Off-white, greyish, heavy powder, as opposed to fluffy granules. There are yellowish speckles, which I imagine are the fluorescent optical brighteners.

Similar results as before: Estimated Time to Completion started at 1hr 18mins, counted down by the minute, then jumped from 1hr 07mins, up to 1hr 38mins. Extra rinse automatically inserted.

As the wash solution cascades down the door glass, I observed the solution to be quite cloudy. Hence the reason the machine is lengthening programme time - it is obviously seeing this too.

Another chalky tide-mark I wiped from the door glass on unloading the machine.

I am unsure whether I actually like the product.
Yes, the fragrance in the box is nice. Less so on the dried clothes.
The low (non-existent) foaming is good. But insoluble detergent components are forcing an extra rinse and increasing the wash phase.

There are no enzymes, so tougher stains might not be as readily removed.

Overall, I'm swayed 50/50 - i.e. sitting on the fence.


Post# 933483 , Reply# 9   4/20/2017 at 06:18 by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I love ACDO powder, I think it's a great detergent. It is non-bio but it's quite bleach heavy, I found it very good for hot, white washes. And being soap based, it uses far less artificial or synthetic ingredients than most mainstream detergents.

I haven't bought it in a long while though, as we're now almost exclusively using more eco friendly alternatives for all our cleaning products and bathing products.

I remember as a kid my Nan would only buy cleaning products at our local Happy Shopper and they only stocked ACDO - the twin tub and automatic variations, both non-bio. I believe one had green logo and the was red.


Post# 934237 , Reply# 10   4/24/2017 at 11:16 by Johnny42 (Glasgow)        
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I bought some ACDO from the home bargains store. I tried it in my wringer washer. It seems to clean the clothes fine, however, once I had emptied the machine, I noticed some "granules" stuck on the agitator. I don't think that this ACDO is the same as I remember as a kid. The one I remember was a pale yellow powder. This one had a white powder.

Post# 934291 , Reply# 11   4/24/2017 at 15:39 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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That's the problem with today's detergents - the zeolites that replaced the phosphates.

Phosphates rinsed clean way, especially important for the twintub machines, where the rinsing took place in the narrow spin can.

On the other hand, zeolites never dissolve, they just settle out, leaving a chalky deposit. In a tightly-packed twintub spinner, chalky marks will remain.

Older versions of ACDO probably had a perborate bleach too, rather than today's percarbonate.

This version of ACDO will probably be the closest you can get to the old stuff, allowing for all the political interference which ultimately alters the product. Some time ago, I read that today's 'Chanel No 5' is not the same product as the original version.


Post# 934299 , Reply# 12   4/24/2017 at 16:38 by mrboilwash (Munich,Germany)        

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No intention to go too far off topic but Chanel No 5 and many others had to undergo dozens of reformulations during the years.
Nobody could imagine today wearing a perfume which used natural musk obtained from an endangered species which had to be killed to get the stuff.
It got replaced a long time ago with nitromusks as a measure of cost reduction when these were cheaply available.
Later some musk compounds were found to be carcinogenic and polluting and again were replaced with other musk compounds.
Then there were several restrictions to protect allergy sufferers and so on.
Natural oak moss extract is one of the the latest scent ingredients to be found on the no-no list.

So don`t be surprised your favourite detergent is not what it used to be decades ago.


Post# 934308 , Reply# 13   4/24/2017 at 18:13 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
"detergent is not what it used to be decades ago"

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And the only way we're going to get it, is to hop aboard a passing time machine.

As for killing species for their musk glands, the right thing to do WAS to STOP using that ingredient.

I wonder which of today's 'wonder ingredients' will be discovered to be potentially lethal in the future?


Post# 934615 , Reply# 14   4/26/2017 at 05:14 by Johnny42 (Glasgow)        
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I totally agree with you on that one. Rolls....do u remember if there was ever an ACDO liquid laundry detergent ?

Oh yeah....just remembered...there is ROLLS RAPIDE twin tub for sale on ebay. Have you seen it ?


Post# 934676 , Reply# 15   4/26/2017 at 13:02 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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No, Johnny I've not seen it, thanks though. I actually don't have room for excess machines.

I think there was an ACDO liquid back in the 1990s, supplied in a waxed cardboard container, like a drinks carton.

Have a look at this wholesaler site.... Dishwasher products?!


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Post# 934698 , Reply# 16   4/26/2017 at 15:00 by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Hey Jonny !

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The rolls Rapide is only £10 please save it I cannot neither can anyone I know !! I may be able to pick it up and drop it off to you I say may as I travel from Yorkshire to Scotland!! We will get you into the washer collecting bug !!!

Richard


Post# 934888 , Reply# 17   4/27/2017 at 04:19 by Johnny42 (Glasgow)        
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Hey Ricky. I would have loved to buy that machine, but I don't have the space now. Even if I did, my partner would flip at my for buying another washer...lol

Post# 935100 , Reply# 18   4/28/2017 at 08:00 by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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This is the styl of ADCO I remember

Post# 935171 , Reply# 19   4/28/2017 at 17:17 by Johnny42 (Glasgow)        
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Yeah. That's the one I remember too. The box I have at the moment, is a blue box with ACDO brand name in white. Also, I don't think that the fragrance is the same.

Post# 936493 , Reply# 20   5/5/2017 at 09:39 by aquarius1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Interesting about Acdo being easy on the suds but sending sensors into turmoil.

Ive had a box of this for well over a year - I did one wash with it in my Zanussi Jetsystem and it didnt alter any wash times or prompt and extra rinses.

I need to get using it up - will try it in the Bosch and see what happens to the wash times and rinse sensors.

Perhaps im best trying it on some towels - they always seem to put the Bosch's rinses to the test and it always adjusts itself to cope with rinsing difficulties giving perfect results.

Bold always prompts deeper and longer rinsing yet other P&G detergents seem to allow lower water levels and shorter rinses.


Post# 936499 , Reply# 21   5/5/2017 at 10:20 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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I've tried ACDO since then, a couple of loads of white towels, resulting in speedy cycles on the 'autocare' programme.

The problem seemed to occur when I washed a load of coloured clothes: jeans, T-shirts, underwear.

I was wondering if Acdo was allowing clothing dyes to bleed into the water, causing murkier water, and confusing the optical sensor? That might explain it. Perhaps Acdo powder doesn't have 'dye-lock technology'?


Post# 936604 , Reply# 22   5/5/2017 at 17:25 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Ingredients:

Acdo Soft & Gentle contains among other ingredients: 15 - 30% Zeolite, 5 - 15% Oxygen - Based Bleaching Agents, Soap, Less than 5% Non-ionic Surfactants, Polycarboxylates, Perfume, Optical Brighteners, Contains Butylphenyl Methylpropional

Directions:

How much to use See pack for full dosage instructions. Prewash: Add an extra 50g (60ml) of powder alongside the dosage recommended for your main wash. *This pack contains up to 10 standard washes based on normal soiling and medium water hardness. Hand Washing For soft water thoroughly dissolve 50g (60ml) of Miracle ACDO to every 4.5 litres of hot (60°C) water. For hand water use 75g (90mls). Let water cool to suit fabric type. Always read the garment wash care label. Always test coloured items for colourfastness first. Wash loose colours separately in cool water. Rinse well before drying. Don't wash if in doubt. Hand Washing Delicates Wash Wool and Viscose Rayon in warm (40°C) water, squeezing gently and quickly in the suds. Never leave to soak. Don't dry Wool in direct heat or sunlight. Remember that Flame Resistant Finishes can be impaired if washed in ACDO or any other soap powder. Do not soak non-colourfast items. Wash Care Remember. Always check the garment wash care label and machine instructions before use. Do not wash flame resistant fabrics in hot water, i.e. 50°C. Do not soak flame resistant fabrics, leather of garments with metal fasteners. When hand washing, people with sensitive or damaged skin should avoid prolonged contact with the wash solution and always rinse and dry hands after use.

Off the mark this powder contains quite a lot of Zeolites. Normal detergent powders like Persil or Ariel have only on average around 5%.


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Post# 936733 , Reply# 23   5/6/2017 at 08:04 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Thanks, Launderess!

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Interesting, your ingredients are slightly different to our ACDO product.


Our "Original Miracle ACDO" (as linked above in Paulc's Reply #4), has the following ingredients:

15-30% Zeolites,
5-15% Oxygen-based bleaching agents, Soap,
<5% Optical brighteners, Polycarboxylates, Perfumes.

There aren't any Non-ionic surfactants in our version, just soap.

(And then I followed Launderess's link...)

It would appear Amazon.co.uk have goofed! They've muddled up the products. We don't have the "Soft & Gentle " version. Wrong ingredients.


Post# 936868 , Reply# 24   5/6/2017 at 22:07 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Non-ionic surfactant blend

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Along with soap isn't a bad way to go really. Back in the day many "soap" based laundry products (White King was one brand sold in USA) had such formulas. It gave the best of both worlds.

Soap makers late as the 1950's at least in USA added phosphates to their "detergents" for obvious reasons when doing the wash with pure soap. Consumer Reports in the 1950's tested and rated such "built" laundry soap based "detergents" and noted while most all gave good results in the wash, none contained enough phosphates to deal with hard water rinsing. That is you would still need to add some sort of water softener to the first rinse (and maybe the second) depending upon local water hardness.

Once phosphates were removed from laundry products in the 1960's or so White King and others came up with adding surfactants. This would help overcome some of the drawbacks (again) of using pure soap for wash day. You certainly wouldn't need all the Zeolites the above product seems to contain.

The original Persil solved the hard water and soap problem to an extent by using sodium metasilicate (silicates being the "SIL" in PerSIL), but guess ACDO decided to go another way.

When using any of the soaps in my vintage stash (P&G, Savon de Marseille, Kirkman's Borax, Ivory Snow, Lux Flakes, etc...) most always use both phosphates and a liquid detergent (normally Tide Free and Gentle).

First the Tide contains anti-foaming agents that will keep down the froth which naturally comes from using soap on wash day, especially in a H-Axis washer.

Two, the liquid detergent acts as a "builder" bringing water softening, soil suspension, anti-redeposit and other goodies to the wash; again to counteract the not so good properties of using pure soaps.


All this allows one to wash without soda or Zeolites and thus gives a softer result with less rinsing required.


Post# 936875 , Reply# 25   5/6/2017 at 22:32 by spiraclean (UK)        

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Last week I finally managed to get hold of some of this, and have been trying it out on a few loads to see how it fares. Only used it for white washes so far, but initial impressions are good. Love the smell, it reminds me very much of a detergent from years ago although trying to recall which one exactly has left me stumped.

It does behave rather differently to a synthetic detergent. At the start of the wash, the water remains clear with no suds, looking almost as though no powder has been added. Once the wash starts warming up, the water takes on a slightly milky look with a few bubbles, eventually forming a thin layer of proper suds once higher temps are reached.

Usually my Bosch sudslocks and adds an emergency rinse or two every time I wash a full load of towels, regardless of how little detergent is used. With a full 105 ml dosage of Acdo, it went straight through the first spin without any issues. The rinses are cloudy at first, becoming progressively clearer, but with absolutely no foam. I'm finding three rinses does the trick for me, and a fourth would probably be overkill.

It does appear to work well on normal "grubby" loads, with everything coming out perfectly clean and white. Have not had the opportunity to use it on anything badly stained yet, so I'll be interested to see how it copes there. Due to the lack of enzymes, it might benefit from a bio prewash in such cases. Then again, given the high bleach content, and the ability to dose generously when needed without risk of sudslocking, I suspect it could well do just fine on its own.

Think I'm going to stick with this one for a while, it's ticking all the boxes for me. If I recall correctly it was something like £1.75 per box, and at that price I'm seriously considering stockpiling some just in case it proves harder to find in the future.


Post# 937012 , Reply# 26   5/7/2017 at 19:49 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
"reminds me very much of a detergent from years ago"

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Reading your post, I got a sudden twinge of a memory!

I went and sniffed the ACDO packet again, and first thought was...

it's not unlike ARIEL twintub powder! (when powders smelt of soap, and not of air-fresheners).

My second thought was Persil Automatic of the early 1980's.

I suppose most of the powders of the 60's, 70's and 80's would smell of soap fragrance. It's only since 2005 that manufacturers have been trying to out-do each other with overpowering stenches. And I think modern Persil Bio Powder smells like mouldering toadstools.



Post# 937035 , Reply# 27   5/7/2017 at 22:00 by Spiraclean (UK)        

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Funny you should say that, because those were two of the powders I was thinking of when I first smelled this. Perhaps it has notes that are slightly reminiscent of both, hence why it's hard to pin down exactly where I recognised the smell from.

Persil Bio is a great performer, but I don't like the current scent either. Entirely subjective of course, but I pick up on an underlying "tang" that unfortunately reminds me of sick. Same goes for yellow Comfort Sunshine.


Post# 937063 , Reply# 28   5/8/2017 at 05:00 by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        
I don't like the current scent either

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Skip powder in France is Unilever's TOL brand and is the same formula as Persil Bio in the UK but with a different scent. It's much nicer - smells a bit like Persil Performance. It's in a blue box like our non-bio, but it is biological.

Post# 937084 , Reply# 29   5/8/2017 at 09:27 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
I don't like the current scent either

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My mum uses modern Ariel Bio. And in all fairness, the perfume is better than it was a year or two before, and leaps better than the 2005 effort.

The Ariel powder smells nice in the packet, and it smells nice as the washing machine flushes the powder drawer. But I am not keen on the fragrance once items have dried - such as on towels. I keep getting an underlying synthetic fruity smell that to my nose, just shouts "cheap bargain basement".


Post# 937337 , Reply# 30   5/9/2017 at 11:15 by liberatordeluxe (Chelmsford, United Kingdom)        

Where did you buy the Acdo powder from Spiralcleam?

Post# 938666 , Reply# 31   5/15/2017 at 13:42 by Johnny42 (Glasgow)        
ACDO washing powder

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I tried ACDO on my white dish towels and they came out brilliant. I used my wringer washer to do this load of laundry. However, I do still get some granules stuck to the agitator after I have emptied the tub.

Does anybody remember FAIRY SNOW ?

LIBERATORDELUXE....I purchased my ACDO at my local HOME BARGAINS store. They regularly stock it there.


Post# 938681 , Reply# 32   5/15/2017 at 14:52 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Fairy Snow

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I remember it, and I've a vague memory of the colour 1970s television adverts.

I actually remember more vividly, the "Pure New Wool" advert that had a sheep and a front loading automatic.

I vaguely remember an advert where a child was wrapped in a luxurious bath towel. I presume it was for "Lenor" or "Comfort" fabric conditioners.

I remember the "Drive" detergent advert, where a drop of solution was added to a Petri dish and caused the oil to disperse.

I remember "Daz" and the 'doorstep challenges'. And 'Square Deal' "Surf".



Post# 938869 , Reply# 33   5/16/2017 at 17:43 by liberatordeluxe (Chelmsford, United Kingdom)        

I got two boxes of Acdo powder but yet to try it. It smells very nice though in the box.




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