Thread Number: 70114
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A phobia about new products |
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Post# 930342 , Reply# 1   4/3/2017 at 12:27 (2,579 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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Post# 930344 , Reply# 2   4/3/2017 at 12:30 (2,579 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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Post# 930345 , Reply# 3   4/3/2017 at 12:31 (2,579 days old) by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)   |   | |
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I've always held great appreciation for old cars and appliances. That's what originally attracted me to AW.org. The cheapening of American appliances and cars started in the early 70's and it has only gotten progressively worse over the ensuing years. Things used to be made so they could be repaired. Now we have a throw away mentality. Our county seat, Santa Rosa, Ca. still has an old time repair shop for small appliances and vacuums, Asef's, but when he retires I doubt their will be anyone left to fill his place. This kind of service is becoming a lost art.
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Post# 930351 , Reply# 6   4/3/2017 at 13:37 (2,579 days old) by turquoisedude (.)   |   | |
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Yep, I'm there! I remember when my folks finally replaced their 1957 Frigidaire Super range with a 1974 Westinghouse-built harvest gold model, my father was quick to point out how flimsy the range looked. Oddly enough the salesperson agreed with him and I remember him saying "This range is not going to last more than 10 years if you are lucky"... It did though... LOL
When I was a landlord, I had to replace appliances from time to time and was just horrified by the models available. I just couldn't help but think they were made to break down. I was right, alas!! |
Post# 930352 , Reply# 7   4/3/2017 at 13:37 (2,579 days old) by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)   |   | |
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I'm pretty pragmatic about this. Technology improvements have brought us a lot of good and it would be sad to not embrace at least some of them. I do understand the market forces that have caused things to be made more inexpensively and that is indeed a sad thing. I despise the disposable economy. I am a fixer and I will repair anything electrical, electronic or mechanical and strive to keep things running.
I tend to be a person that will only buy high quality items that will serve a long life. A couple mantra's "The pain of poor quality long outlives the joy of low price", "Low price is only part of a good deal" and "Buy the best and you only cry once". When I buy tools I will spend whatever it takes to buy something that will last me the rest of my life, I won't buy Harbor Freight (or Craftsman for that matter) it just isn't worth it. I believe that the best car or computer in most regards will be the next years model. I love the addition of electronics to appliances, I hope to never own a mechanical timer machine again other then perhaps for nostalgia. Simple old controls work, but they give up all the advantages that electronics and sensor feedback can yield. I also love the advances of variable frequency motor drives effectively replacing gearboxes and transmissions. So much more versatile and easier to fix. I do appreciate history and the way vintage products were made. I often use the analogy of how great it is to take a Sunday drive in an old classic car for instance, but I sure wouldn't want to drive one everyday. Modern stuff is just so much more refined in many ways. My feelings likely don't slot in with a lot of the group here, but that is OK. We all bring good things to share at the table. |
Post# 930435 , Reply# 9   4/3/2017 at 18:41 (2,579 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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There is something for everybody......If I win the lotto I will show you the 1950s..LOL And I mean right down to the furnace and ac in the house!!LOL...NO NEW gizmos for me! |
Post# 930449 , Reply# 10   4/3/2017 at 20:02 (2,579 days old) by wayupnorth (On a lake between Bangor and Bar Harbor, Maine)   |   | |
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Old stuff for me and keep it going fine because you usually can. Not having a stove to push buttons and crap out or a washer to decide what load should it be set on for the next couple of hours on electronically, no refrigerator with a camera, I have my grocery list, and I write it out by hand. Thats my story and I'm stickin to it. Old school for me.
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Post# 930537 , Reply# 16   4/4/2017 at 10:41 (2,578 days old) by speedqueen (Metro-Detroit)   |   | |
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Post# 930566 , Reply# 18   4/4/2017 at 13:39 (2,578 days old) by firedome (Binghamton NY & Lake Champlain VT)   |   | |
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yes, 51k original miles and no rust, but she has a ways to go before getting that lovely lilac paint job!
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Post# 930606 , Reply# 19   4/4/2017 at 16:20 (2,578 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Would aw.org even exist if design and execution weren't sinking faster than technology is moving forward?
Perhaps it would. Old appliances would still have historical interest. Much like many people are interested in--and even own--really old computers.
But if new appliances were definitely overall much better, one would probably not have the chorus of "give me vintage for my daily driver, or die!" |
Post# 930609 , Reply# 20   4/4/2017 at 16:26 (2,578 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Hoover vacuums in the big downtown Belks store in Charlotte NC in the early 70s when I was a kid and thinking how cheap they looked compared to the older ones neighbors had, Now they look pretty darn good
I've had that same sort of experience, except my time frame is different. Stuff in the 80s/early 90s didn't seem to have good quality. At least, not to my eyes, which were used (at that time) to 60s quality in appliances. Now, however, 80s/90s stuff looks much better to me than it did back then.
Scary thought: in 2040 I might be mourning the "good old days of 2017 quality." LOL |
Post# 930612 , Reply# 21   4/4/2017 at 17:06 (2,578 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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As for my own views of old vs new...it's mixed... I'm not sure that there is any 100% view with any product.
The one time I do really tend to embrace new products is with computer technology, particularly the Internet. It's been a huge plus overall for me. But, at the same time, I still have some interest and liking for old computers, and I think some things were possibly better once. I hate some of the software bloat with unnecessary/useless features in basic office suite software, for example. And some hardware seemed longer lasting, although it was also far more expensive when new.
With cars, I have not owned anything newer than about mid-1990s. In buying, I find price very compelling--I end up with old, used, but hopefully with some service life left. And also not so old there is collectible value. I have no idea what will happen in the future, but I have to admit I worry about the long term durability of recent cars, given all the features they have. More features=more things to break. Also they seem harder to even maintain, which means higher costs. (Although routine maintenance is less frequent.) If I had the money, I might buy something now as a long term keeper that's old enough to be fairly simple, and yet new enough to have passable mileage and safety features. Say ca. 1990.
I will also comment I really don't find most newer cars very interesting. At best, I find something practical. But some modern cars have styling that is too much for me, and it repels me. (But I bet some said the same thing about fins in the 1950s!)
With audio equipment, I remain locked in the past with the vinyl as my primary source. I am interested--no, very interested--in better than CD digital audio...but the practical reality is LPs are more affordable. Hmmm...a used LP for $1, or a digital download for $20. Which is easier on my budget? I am, surprisingly, getting slightly interested in CD...but that's fueled entirely by dirt cheap CDs. Past costs...I still find old, familiar LPs to be a comfortable format.
With appliances, I guess more often than not I take the "older is probably better" attitude. I admit energy savings are attractive--but energy use and cost to own is probably far greater on appliances that last only a short time.
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