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Thread Number: 70965
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Need new washer. Please advise. |
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Post# 939636 , Reply# 1 5/21/2017 at 08:23 (2,532 days old) by foraloysius  (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Topload vs frontload:
You can read lots of opinions in this thread. Everbody and their mother has an opinion about it. ;-) www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... | ||
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Post# 939783 , Reply# 5 5/22/2017 at 16:43 (2,530 days old) by Mrsalvo (New Braunfels Texas) |
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As an owner of SQ TL, I've not have any problems at all. I think it will have a long life span, warranties are the best in the business, and more importantly to me is the incredibly quick cycle times. Best of luck to you in making a good decision for your growing family. Cheers! | ||
| Post# 939784 , Reply# 6 5/22/2017 at 16:49 (2,530 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas) | ||
Socks are easy to deal with Just buy a couple of delicate bags, or bra bags at Walmart. Put your socks in those to wash. Take them out before going into the dryer. Less lost socks, reduces the chance of them migrating to the pump.
One thing, don't over stuff the bags. If you have quite a few split them amongst a couple bags. It also helps the machine in balancing for the spin.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Iheartmaytag's LINK | ||
| Post# 939821 , Reply# 7 5/23/2017 at 00:12 (2,530 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
I highly recommend LG either top OR front loaders. If you go to Costco,you may get a bundle where they match a set and add another year of warrant. Two years parts and labor. I have had great success with mine and the children may safely watch and or touch them because of the child safe locking doors and control panels. I prefer front loaders. They spin faster then top loaders and hold more per square foot. Turbo wash is my favorite type. They have a recirculating spray using three different nozzles built in to the mechanism. This guaranties a true uniform washing and rinsing. Quiet, efficient,economical and dependable.I recommend that you read what Consumer Reports has published including frequency of repair. LG has had the lead in this for years now. Fewest repairs then any other brands. Washers AND dryers.
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| Post# 939822 , Reply# 8 5/23/2017 at 00:16 (2,530 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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Post# 939907 , Reply# 9 5/23/2017 at 16:59 (2,529 days old) by whirlykenmore78 (Prior Lake MN (GMT-0500 CDT.)) |
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I really like my SQ FLs: | ||
| Post# 939933 , Reply# 10 5/23/2017 at 19:44 (2,529 days old) by Rubaducky (Texas) | ||
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Thanks for all the replies, but now I'm really confused! LOL. Guess I'm looking at SQ FL, SQ TL, or LG FL. So many options. Guess either one will beat this (or maybe not).
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Post# 939968 , Reply# 13 5/23/2017 at 21:57 (2,529 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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No heater
Isn't truly a deal breaker. One must take other considerations into account.
Many commercial laundries in USA do not use heated H-axis washers. Then again some do, it depends upon what sort of washing is mainly done, and how often uber high temps that also must be maintained are required. Just as with early dishwashers that didn't heat water, a washing machine can give excellent results if there are frequent changes of water, and or the cycles aren't very long. Yes, after warm or cold flush/pre-wash incoming hot water at say 160F for initial wash will be cooled. But if that cycle only lasts say ten minutes, water dumped, then another fill with again 160F (or above) water, things will cool less as laundry has already been warmed. Here is an old wash formula for linens, think hospital IIRC. 1) Five-minute cold rinse; (2) 10-minute soak in hot suds; (3) 10-minute soak in hot suds; (4) 10-minute soak in hot suds, with bleach; (5) five hot rinses with live steam; (6) six cold rinses, and a germicide solution is used in the third cold rinse; (7) water is extracted Think many front loaders for domestic use don't bother with heaters out of the assumption Americans love using chlorine bleach. Unlike oxygen bleaches, chlorine is less dependent upon high tempearatures to give best results. Properly dosed chlorine bleach will whiten, remove stains, and sanitize washing even in cold water at in < five minutes contact time. Five or six minutes is working with cool or cold water. In hot or high temperatures time required is much shorter. This is one reason why commercial laundries use a separate short cycle after washing for bleaching with chlorine based products. In fact longer periods aren't effective and may contribute to textile damage. Any stain or whitening not achieved in about five minutes with chlorine bleach isn't going to happen at all. | ||
| Post# 939979 , Reply# 15 5/24/2017 at 00:17 (2,529 days old) by Laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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I would NEVER buy any washer/dryer for the price SQ lists their machines. They may be made here but the parts used are made mostly in China. They have gears to wear out,belts that break and agitators that tear up fabrics. Their fls are o.k. but way overpriced. Even with five years covering them,there are some folks here who have had some problems and are not at all pleased with the product. I remember when they first came available back in the late eighties. There were so many problems that they had a recall and were no longer available. LG had some too with their top loaders and imediately fixed that. I bought three sets back in 2012 for my cousins and their parents. One top loader and two front loaders ( one with the riser drawers, one without). My cousins have lots of kids and wash larger loads daily. All three sets are still in use with no repairs in great condition and highly pleased owners. I got the fls in ss. One set was $1900. The other was $1650. For $99 extra, I bought the four year service plan giving them a full 5 year parts and labor coverage. So far, no issues and because of word of mouth and seeing them in full operation,nearby neighbors of theirs jumped in and bought the same ones. One of whom had a three year old SQ. that they hated because it wasn't big enough to hold their king size comforters. My cousin, Nanann,had them bring it over to wash in her LG FL and they were totally surprised at how easily it fit and how clean and fresh smelling the comforter came out. I hope you find a great set whatever one you choose.
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Post# 939983 , Reply# 16 5/24/2017 at 01:36 (2,529 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Guess SQ machines are "assembled" in the US from Foreign sourced components? | ||
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Post# 939985 , Reply# 17 5/24/2017 at 01:40 (2,529 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Safe washer that can be used with kids around------Wasn't both LG and Samsung experiencing the "Spin-Splode" syndromes???Wouldn't want kids or other washer spectators to close to those. | ||
| Post# 939997 , Reply# 18 5/24/2017 at 04:20 (2,529 days old) by brucelucenta () | ||
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tolivac Only the top loading machines, which I would never recommend anyone to buy. | ||
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Post# 940005 , Reply# 19 5/24/2017 at 06:13 (2,529 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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The SQ TL would be the one I want.Have used them before in laundramats commercial and in apartment buildings. Liked them!Otherwise Swap shop TL machines for me!!Don't like the newer machines except SQ. | ||
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Post# 940296 , Reply# 26 5/26/2017 at 03:43 (2,527 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN) |
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 I've had European compact washers (Asko and Miele) for 20 years and have had no problems fitting king size sheet sets and quilts in either of them. the only things that don't fit are the thickest king comforters which are usually taken to a laundromat anyway so they can be dried in a large dryer (I have full-size dryers at home but these items just dry better in those great big ones). | ||
| Post# 940352 , Reply# 28 5/26/2017 at 15:08 (2,526 days old) by appliancedude16 (Sunnyvale,California, U.S.A) | ||
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Buy a Speed Queen top load washer I would highly recommend a Speed Queen top loading washer. | ||
| Post# 941185 , Reply# 30 5/31/2017 at 18:23 (2,521 days old) by UncleDave (California) | ||
You have cheap and premium versions of both types.
The premium 220V front loaders offer features the cheapies can't touch. I never once put small items in a bag in my Miele 1215 to protect them from loss. I have for DW's bras and other items I wanted to limit the movement of - but never to stop a problem with item migration to an unwanted area. Last I looked I had 10,246 cycles on it and have not once had an item migrate out of the drum. Top loaders and most front loaders don't control temps to begin with and depending completely on the water inlet temp. 110 machines that do have a heater take typically take a long time to complete a load thats actually gets hot enough to kill germs, whereas the 220 machines blast through the germ barrier in under an hour. You can always use bleach in lesser machines but the your fabrics can become compromised in short order using it. I grew up with top loaders like most Americans but after living with a great front loader for about 15 years now I can't imagine going back to a TL. Especially in California where water is liquid gold. UD | ||
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