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Post# 982287   2/11/2018 at 10:12 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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One assumes it is a cousin to Tide Purclean sold in USA.

Haven't tried Tide, but have looked at bottles on shelves. Which is about close as am allowed since have already more detergents in this place to last the duration. *LOL*





Post# 982298 , Reply# 1   2/11/2018 at 11:10 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
"about close as am allowed..."

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Does your husband whisk you through that aisle at top speed?

Post# 982299 , Reply# 2   2/11/2018 at 11:13 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
*LOL*

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Just know when am best off. *LOL*

At some point one simply realizes (hopefully) when enough is enough.

This was brought home recently as attention was made to the various places one has stashed detergents/laundry products. Most of which have sat sitting since arrival and not really made a dent in the collection.


Post# 982300 , Reply# 3   2/11/2018 at 11:18 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Lol

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Detergents seem to multiply like rabbits!

Post# 982303 , Reply# 4   2/11/2018 at 11:32 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Cheeky!

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Oh we're just a little sauce box this morning aren't we? *LOL*

Don't laugh, still have those two cases of Persil soap powder *and* Persil59 to work through. I know some of you out there are just waiting for me to kick to bucket so can nab them from my estate. *LOL*

Might start taking in washing....


Post# 982304 , Reply# 5   2/11/2018 at 11:49 by MrAlex (London, UK)        

I’ve been to three, THREE SHOPS! And no Ariel Purclean pour moi!! :(

Post# 982306 , Reply# 6   2/11/2018 at 12:03 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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@Launderess:

LOL! It (detergent) certainly does accrue. Mind you, if you did take in washing, at least you'd have the satisfaction of seeing the clothes properly laundered. Their whites would be dazzling!


@MrAlex:

Poor you - You'll have to make do with the 'Compact Ariel Liquid'. I've not seen the Pureclean version either... and P&G's weird spellings do my head in too (remember Ariel Future, with the dispenser and scoop labelled 'Futur'?... ridiculous!)


Post# 982310 , Reply# 7   2/11/2018 at 12:27 by Yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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there is BIG business in doing laundry for single guys, especially Police, Firemen, and Correction Officers....

they are fine with washing of their normal garments, but their White shirts, when you can get them whiter and brighter than anyone else, crisp and starched just right...

if you start with one or two, and the look and word gets around, you will be drowning in laundry...

and if you can do a few small alterations or sew on a button....you are a gem to them!


Post# 982320 , Reply# 8   2/11/2018 at 14:35 by liamy1 (-)        
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I have some, but haven’t used it yet. Smells lovely though, I have the “Summer Fresh” one (unsure if there is more than 1 scent), but the PurClean I have is specifically named as opposed to just Original etc.

I didn’t even mean to buy it, as the stash has had Australian Omo Powder and US Tide Powder added this week, but as everyone here more than knows, they just fall in to the trolley/cart 🤣

(I actually disposed of a few at end of last year as I just had too many and I seem to have become obsessed with having them all fit in the one double shelf, double cupboard , can’t bear it if any have to be kept elsewhere).

I got it at the same time as Seventh Generation Free and Clear liquid that Tesco have on clearance as they have discontinued it (would assume it weren’t selling and Tesco have just launched a very funky range of Eco detergents in cool bottles and about 5 different colours).

@MrAlex,have you tried Tesco? my Tesco had loads of them last week, as said it fell in my hand lol.

Oddly, none of the bottles had a dosing device on the bottle, if there had have been, I would have picked the bottle that did, I always go for ones with dosing devices on top as opposed to not.


Post# 982321 , Reply# 9   2/11/2018 at 14:39 by liamy1 (-)        
On

Tesco Online, of course with the specific stores I would imagine it would be dependant on deliveries and current stock holding, but would surprised it wouldn’t be in at least 1 Tesco nearby as of course there is millions of them.

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Post# 982360 , Reply# 10   2/11/2018 at 18:09 by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
PurClean

If I remember correctly, the Ariel version has either 3 or 4 enzymes compared to the 2 that Tide has. I'm sure cleaning is a bit better.

Post# 982429 , Reply# 11   2/12/2018 at 02:00 by MrAlex (London, UK)        

lakewebsterkid- it’s got four :)

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Post# 982430 , Reply# 12   2/12/2018 at 02:07 by MrAlex (London, UK)        

Rolls_Rapide- That must’ve been the 90s?


liamy1- I have a look at my Tesco express :)


Post# 982438 , Reply# 13   2/12/2018 at 05:02 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
@MrAlex:

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It was :)

Post# 982464 , Reply# 14   2/12/2018 at 11:58 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Ariel Purclean

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Getting on great with it, nice to know @70 plant based and more eco and sustainable it can wash very well..

First Load was on a mixed load of dark clothing, had some muddy garden pants, so 60ml was used on a 6kg plus load. Washing at 40d cotton wash with 3 rinses.
It foams up quite a lot initially but as the temperature rises it drop off, by the second rinse it was clear. I usually do a vinegar rinse on 2 but left it to see how it would perform - A pass by me !!

Washing #ArielPurclean


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Post# 982466 , Reply# 15   2/12/2018 at 12:08 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Ariel Purclean Rinsing

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Heres the rinse water tested, the above jug was the wash water on discharge.

Rinses clear really quickly, although this servis Vestel washer dryer has a jet, and does fast & slow rinse tumbles as well as distribution (clothes pinned to drum sides) rinsing.


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Post# 982469 , Reply# 16   2/12/2018 at 12:19 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Ariel Purclean Whites Wash Testing

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As with any new liquid laundry detergent its total cleaning dependability is over a different range of washes, clothing, colours and wash temperatures.

So here goes on a Cotton Whites wash @ 60d with 3 rinses, this program has interim spins up to 800rpm and has a jetsystem spray for part of the wash and rinse programmes.

Again high foam on initial agitation, but as the temperature climbs the foam drops.

Washing Whites Cotton #ArielPurclean


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Post# 982470 , Reply# 17   2/12/2018 at 12:33 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Ariel Purclean White Cotton Rinsing

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I was even more surprised at how the foam was rinsed away on this load, the first rinse was almost clear.

The cleaning power was very good, all items bar one where clean and fresh, the one t-shirt with faint stain held to the light had a dried in 2 day blood from a nose bleed, I would usually have pre-treated or rinsed in cold water etc but thought would see how the ultimate test would go.

Again I would certainly use this again and its the way to go in terms of future eco manufacturing of laundry detergents.

Rinsing #Arielpurclean



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Post# 982471 , Reply# 18   2/12/2018 at 12:37 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Ariel Purclean

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All washed rinsed & dried, Very impressed with this new liquid laundry detergent, I`m a die hard green box biological enzyme washing powder user (Ariel or Persil) so was pleased to know this worked well.

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Post# 982478 , Reply# 19   2/12/2018 at 13:38 by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

Ariel futur powder in the nineties - in eco packets (£6.99 for 2.5 kg or £4.39 for 1.5 kg in Sainsbugs IIRC) though you could get little squat boxes to refill if you were lucky!! Do you remember the strange dosing device made of plastic but with a sort of fabric surround?

I forgave the dodgy spelling (assumed it was a tactical European compromise) cos the scent of that stuff was so bloody wonderful. I remember hot washes in the Hoover Ecologic using that with a dash of Lenor Alpine Fresh. As for Ariel futur (no `e') Alpine version - don't get me started.......heaven in a box (or a plastic eco refill......)





Post# 982482 , Reply# 20   2/12/2018 at 14:14 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Compact powders

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When Ariel Ultra came out at first, I think the dispensing 'Arielator' was an oval 'bottle' (hard plastic) attached to the vaned top.

Later on, the Arielator became those 'J-cloth' type bags around the plastic frame.

I liked those powders Ariel Ultra and Future. I wanted to like Lever's powders, but found they didn't clean quite as well as Ariel. Then the Persil Power shenanigans kicked off...


Post# 982484 , Reply# 21   2/12/2018 at 14:19 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Heres the other vintage Ariel dosing device, didn't have the fabric one to hand....

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Post# 982485 , Reply# 22   2/12/2018 at 14:38 by nickuk (chelmsford UK)        

Hi Mike

Loved your review and pictures of Ariel Purclean. Your comments about the rinsing were really helpful too. It's interesting, isn't it, that some detergents start at nothing then froth as the water heats whilst others do the opposite.

I don't think even the best bio liquid alone would have removed the blood stain (unless seriously pre-treated) so it looks a fine product. I will be sure to pick up a bottle.

I've just finished a load of whites at 50 c - containing a mattress protector with about a 3 week old large blood stain. I used liquid but added Vanish powder as I usually do for whites. This essentially gives any liquid a performance boost to a level similar (or superior, in my opinion, though others have disagreed) to a `green box' powder.

The blood came out with no trace but it would not have done were it not for the Vanish (or any oxy bleach powder with TAED). Blood ideally needs enzymes to loosen it then oxy bleach to remove the colour of the stain.

Nice to hear from you Mike and I hope you are keeping well.

Nick


Post# 982490 , Reply# 23   2/12/2018 at 15:05 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
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Ah, the Ariel Liquid 'Arielette'!

I remember in the late 80's, Boddington's Beer ran mysterious adverts for a component of their tin cans. One of the supposed spoof names was 'the Boddle-ette'. Latching on to the Ariel paradigm.


Post# 982502 , Reply# 24   2/12/2018 at 16:35 by iej (Ireland)        
The Arielette has been around a while ...






Post# 982512 , Reply# 25   2/12/2018 at 17:53 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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"Blood ideally needs enzymes to loosen it then oxy bleach to remove the colour of the stain."

Yes, and no. There are several ways to get out blood stains, and while enzymes are a "modern day miracle", they aren't the only game in town.

For ages industrial/commercial laundries dealt with blood stains using nothing more than built soap powder,sodium metasilicate along with hot to near boiling water. Sodium perborate (oxygen bleach) likely was added to that mix.

After a cool or warm (temps between 80C to 100C) sluice cycle or pre-wash it was off to the races, and places turned out pretty immaculate work. Mind you this was used for hospital linens as well.

To this day commercial laundries rarely bother with enzymes for blood or other stain removal, but stick with chemicals instead. Alkaline substances (such as ammonia, chlorine bleach, sodium metasilicate, etc...) will attack protein including blood stains. Any remaining traces can be dealt with by using any of the common rust removers such as oxalic acid.

Problem with enzymes is they require long contact times to work properly. This often isn't an issue with domestic washing machines with their hours long cycles. OTOH a commercial laundry washer often completes a complete cycle in <40mins.

Detergents like Persil, Tide and other TOL with advanced enzyme cocktails are wasted in laundromat machines IMHO. Marks/stains that are easily removed in the Miele or Oko-Lavamat still remain after a trip though the SQ front loaders at local laundryette. But the latter completes a "Normal/Heavy" cycle in 30mins from start to finish. Meanwhile the AEG allows nearly an hour just for rinsing and spinning.


Post# 982513 , Reply# 26   2/12/2018 at 17:54 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Those vintage Ariel liquid dosing devices

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Are worth their weight in gold!

They are rare and very hard to find especially NIB. Watched an auction for one on eBay last year but lost interest when things got > $50 USD.


Post# 982589 , Reply# 27   2/13/2018 at 06:39 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
Enzyme detergents

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As decreed by Which? May 1970, courtesy 'Paulinroyton'...

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Post# 982590 , Reply# 28   2/13/2018 at 06:52 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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IIRC the first enzyme wash day products were mostly all pre-soaks; Axion, Bix, Bio-tex, etc... Some like Biz contained perborate bleach systems which added more kick to the mix as one could soak out more types of stains.

Of course the main thing about pre-soaking is what it had always been; if the wash was going to be done in hot or boiling water, that both killed enzymes in addition to setting the very stains many wished to remove.

Somewhere along the line detergents got enzymes (and oxygen bleaching systems) so the need for a separate product wasn't necessary. One could simply use the detergent as a pre-soak.

This and or the pre-soak products morphed into pre-wash or in wash additives where they largely remain today. Vanish, Tide In Wash Stain Treatment, Spray and Wash, the lot are mostly nothing more than enzyme based laundry aids with a bit of often things like bleaches added.

As noted above European/UK washing machines with cold fills that heated to whatever temp desired got rid of need to pre-soak for most part. The "profile wash" cycles allowed enzymes a chance to do their work before hot or boiling water temps were reached. Some washers came with "Bio" cycles or whatever that held water temps within desired range for a bit to give enzymes time to work.


Post# 982592 , Reply# 29   2/13/2018 at 07:04 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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One of our first biological pre-soak powders was Lever's 'Luvil'. Touted to prevent 'back again stains'.

Courtesy, of Youtube, BBC, and Lintas.


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Post# 982594 , Reply# 30   2/13/2018 at 07:24 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Withdrawn from UK, yes

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But Luvil is still around on the continent.














"Back again stains" likely referred to marks made by tannin and certain other substances that though appeared gone after the wash, weren't totally removed and showed up again later after drying.



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Post# 982595 , Reply# 31   2/13/2018 at 07:33 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        

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Oooh, thanks for that. I've never seen those two adverts.

(And that khazi in the 2nd video needs a damn good clean!)


Post# 982602 , Reply# 32   2/13/2018 at 08:25 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Shouldn't want to have a cup of tea at that house! *LOL*

I mean if that is state of the loo, then one can only imagine the kitchen.


Post# 982605 , Reply# 33   2/13/2018 at 08:47 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
"... one can only imagine the kitchen."

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Arrgh! Don't!
It's too horrible to contemplate! LOL





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