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Post# 146840   8/3/2006 at 21:11 (6,475 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

What are the opinions here of the early 60s Westinghouse pull-out drawer type dishwasher with the Temp-boost feature?Any pics,literature or anything on them?Thanks!




Post# 146927 , Reply# 1   8/4/2006 at 08:48 (6,474 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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I don't know about the 60's version, but I use my 1950 model Westinghouse DW every day, it cleans beautifully. Neal tells everyone we have "Boat Propeller" dishwasher.

Post# 146940 , Reply# 2   8/4/2006 at 10:07 (6,474 days old) by christfr (st louis mo)        
ha ha

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i know robert loves his machine. and to call it boat propeller dishwasher is just about right. mine looks just like that too.. they do wash well and lots of fun to play with

Post# 146954 , Reply# 3   8/4/2006 at 11:28 (6,474 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Because even into the early 60s, WH dishwashers only had a mesh cup for a detergent dispenser, they gave no pre rinse to warm up the machine. Even very hot water was cooled when it hit the room temperature load of dishes. The WH Hot Water Booster SLOWLY heated the water above 140F since the tub was uninsulated and the heater was rated at 700 watts. Where the timer paused for heating was called the power soak and it could easily add more than an hour to the 1 wash, two rinse + dry cycle. I have a slightly newer roll out with a detergent dispenser so that it gives the wash, rinse, wash, rinse, rinse, dry sequence and it washed well. I insulated the pull out wash well, the cabinet around it and the lid that locks down on the wash well when it is in operation. None of the impeller machines has a real filter so there can be redepositing of fine particles if you try to load them as tightly as newer dishwashers. The impeller machines can look so neat with the various circular loading patterns. Generally, the machines with metal impellers seem to throw water with greater force than machnes with Bakelite impellers. The leading edge of the Bakelite impeller can vary in smoothness and in sharpness. Nicked impellers do not throw as much water and if they are a little out of balance because of missing plastic, the washing can really suffer because they wobble slightly instead of cutting straight through the water. Xcentric action worked in ABC and Kelvinator machines, but not in a dishwasher.

Post# 146961 , Reply# 4   8/4/2006 at 12:07 (6,474 days old) by mrcleanjeans (milwaukee wi)        

thanks Tom,I absolutely LOVE your info and how you explain it.

Post# 146964 , Reply# 5   8/4/2006 at 13:04 (6,474 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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My 1950 model does give a pre-rinse spray/flush to warm the machine, did they do away with this in the 1960's models because of the Water Heater?

Post# 146977 , Reply# 6   8/4/2006 at 14:57 (6,474 days old) by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

David, we had the model you mentioned way back when I was a teenager. Loved the pull-out drawer, the way the racks loaded, and the performance of the machine, especially with glassware. But, I do remember that it ran water and immediately pumped it out for a while before filling for the wash, which ensured hot incoming water. Even so, the power soak heating delay did add about an hour to the cycle, which is probably why it did a better job than one would expect from an impeller machine. The water temp was also boosted in the last rinse. The fan-forced drying was excellent.

Post# 147178 , Reply# 7   8/5/2006 at 18:40 (6,473 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The purge before the wash fill is not the same as a pre-rinse since the impeller cannot circulate water or it would wash the detergent away. In the rollout WH dishwashers without a detergent dispenser, there is a loop in the top rack that sticks out into the open area formed by the three sided top rack with nothing but space between it and the impeller. In this loop is a small cup of screen mesh like a tea strainer. That's where the detergent goes. In WH models with a detergent dispenser, it is located in the front wall of the tub behind and beneath the silverware basket. It tilts open into the tub revealing two chambers marked I & II. One side is for the prewash and the other is for the main wash. Detergent is added and the dispenser closed. When the dishwasher is started water flows through the chamber marked for the first wash and rinse. When the timer advances into the main wash, the tube over the dispenser moves to the side to fill through the main wash chamber.

As Rinso said, the heating delay was like a pot scrubber cycle where the water just kept recirculating all of that time, so the machine could have a chance to do a pretty credible cleaning job. The other thing that probably helped WH with cleaning was that the screen basket that held the detergent was pretty good sized. I don't have any of my WH dishwashers here at the house, but I believe that cup held at least as much, if not more, than the little rectangular screen box that KitchenAid used. The KitchenAid filled with 2 & 1/3 gallons of water and the Westinghouse filled with a gallon and a half, yet the Westinghouse used about as much detergent. The Westinghouse had no cast iron pump and 9 pound cast iron wash arm to pull heat from the water and had the ability to boost the water temperature in the TOL models. Even the standard WH models had a heating element which was on and adding heat to the wash and rinses. So, unless loaded so that water was blocked to dishes in the upper rack or dishes were facing the wrong way or the hot water supply was not hot, the Westinghouse roll outs had a good chance of being pretty acceptable at washing.


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