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Post# 992244   4/26/2018 at 19:35 by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)        

I'm almost out of US Persil Proclean Power Pearls and wonder what to look to next.  I've been more than impressed with the Proclean!  Any suggestions?

Thanks!  Greg





Post# 992261 , Reply# 1   4/26/2018 at 21:51 by ea56 (Sonoma Co.,CA)        
Greg,

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why not give Tide Powder with Bleach a try? Iíve been using it for my white loads and I really like it. Plus, it has a nice scent too. The only down side is where I live it only comes in the large box at $18.99 a hit, pretty pricey I think.
Eddie


Post# 992269 , Reply# 2   4/27/2018 at 00:55 by Helicaldrive (St. Louis)        
You could

Try to get more online.... or buy the German Power Pearls at germandeli.com.

I recently went back to Tide powder for a temporary change and was not disappointed.

Tomturbomatic has said this and it matches my experience: itís good to switch detergents occasionally. One will clean up what the other leaves behind. Same thing is true of shampoos.


Post# 992455 , Reply# 3   4/29/2018 at 07:15 by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

I will say that I still find nothing beats Tide with Bleach powder for cleaning and brightening. However, I cannot abide the scent at all so will have to find something else. Even Tide Mountain Spring's scent has changed and is very much like Tide with Bleach. I just don't understand it...

Post# 992489 , Reply# 4   4/29/2018 at 12:37 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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Interesting that you can't stand the Tide with Bleach fragrance.  I don't care for strong fragrances of any type and the Tide powder with Bleach leaves very little scent after the dryer.  I can't even say I notice it.

 

I use 1/4 cup in my Neptune front loader with the extra rinse option.

 

Any of the scented Tide liquids leave a much stronger scent that lingers after drying.  That's the primary reason I still use the powder.


Post# 992498 , Reply# 5   4/29/2018 at 13:40 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Have found trick with nearly all Tide detergents

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Is to use the smallest amount that will get the job done, and rinse well.

Am working way through a few bottles of various Tide liquids (Stain Release and Regular/Turbo) While normally couldn't abide any scented version of Tide, find if use about 15ml or so and following with good rinsing; things emerge with a *fresh* scent and not too much of an overpowering whiff.


Post# 992499 , Reply# 6   4/29/2018 at 13:41 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Have found trick with nearly all Tide detergents

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Is to use the smallest amount that will get the job done, and rinse well.

Am working way through a few bottles of various Tide liquids (Stain Release and Regular/Turbo) While normally couldn't abide any scented version of Tide, find if use about 15ml or so and following with good rinsing; things emerge with a *fresh* scent and not too much of an overpowering whiff.


Post# 992558 , Reply# 7   4/29/2018 at 22:59 by Stan (Napa CA)        
Maybe

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just plain ol Tide powder original. Cleans well, rinses well, not overly scented.

Post# 992562 , Reply# 8   4/29/2018 at 23:41 by Maytagbear (N.E. Ohio)        
Foe me the Persil

wins. Scent, power, the name, which I find more fun to say than "Tide."
Either one, "ProClean," or "2in1."


When I have no other choice but to cheap out, I get solid results with the regular all that's about 11 cents/use.


The Sears closest to me closed down.....so no more orange box.


Lawrence/Maytagbear


Post# 992608 , Reply# 9   4/30/2018 at 09:12 by liamy1 (-)        
ďthe name, which I find more fun to say than "Tide.Ē

As someone from the U.K. where the Persil brand has been on the market for 110 years this year, and is probably one of the UKs single most famous brands, has always been part of everyoneís vocabulary all our lives (just as i imagine is the same with Tide in the US). I find it amusing (in a good way) how you guys pronounce it - well from the YouTube vids Iíve seen anyway.

You say, per-seal with a seemingly clear but very quick separation between per and seal.

We say what I can only describe as pursul (with no space in pronunciation), the sul isnít hard pronounced like SUL! Just a smooth flow straight off the per if that makes sense?


Post# 992611 , Reply# 10   4/30/2018 at 09:32 by panthera (Rocky Mountains)        
Lots of Americans, for some reason,

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Use the German pronunciation of the brand name.

Is the UK Persil the same formulation? 


Post# 992612 , Reply# 11   4/30/2018 at 09:34 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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What you describe comes close to the German pronounciation.







Post# 992633 , Reply# 12   4/30/2018 at 13:12 by liamy1 (-)        
U.K. and German Persil

@Panthera, no, I think ours is different as our Persil is owned by Unilever (interesting side fact, UK has no detergents on the market from Henkel, for the big brands it is just simply P&G and Unilever, with one or 2 niche manufacturers now too, then McBride who tend to do most of the own/private brands for stores).

Our Persil powders have never been the ďmegaperlsĒ/bead type texture, but we do now have the God awful Persil Powergems, linked below if youíre interested and havenít seen.

Have used the German Persil Powder once and the pods x2 and theyíre were very good, but canít remember them being any different is performance to our Persil, I did like the smell too which actually is different to ours.

Our Persil is also very good (supposed thatís why itís the UKs best selling detergent), but on the last umpteen tests, Which? (Our version of consumer reports) have not been so swayed, saying its good but certainly nothing to write home about and you can get better. Itís always Ariel that tops performance on the Which? tests.


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Post# 992637 , Reply# 13   4/30/2018 at 13:20 by liamy1 (-)        
@foraloysius

Yes, thatís exactly it, they way they say it on the YT videos Iíve seen.

We say it as in the ad below, a nice musical advert and the word Persil is mentioned about 10 times, you know for verification of pronunciation :-D






Post# 992643 , Reply# 14   4/30/2018 at 14:49 by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Yes, the pronunciation is quite different indeed. But since the Americans are buying Henkel Persil I suppose they pronounce it right. lol

Post# 992647 , Reply# 15   4/30/2018 at 15:27 by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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Americans are buying Henkel Persil I suppose they pronounce it right

 

That was my thought, too!

 

Although I pronounce it more like the British way.

 

Challenges, challenges. I speak English, which suggests I should use the English pronunciation, but the product is from a German company (admittedly by way of a US subsidiary), and so perhaps I should use the German pronunciation.


Post# 992651 , Reply# 16   4/30/2018 at 16:33 by kb0nes (Burnsville, MN)        

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I am quite taken with the PPP (Persil Power Pearls) also and I am using my remaining stash carefully now. I'd love to find more.

I do switch detergents with almost every load. I generally dislike the liquids but have a few on hand. Tide with Bleach and Gain powder have been the two I have fallen back on once the PPPs went away. Wishing I had bought a half dozen jugs at the end but I was a bit late to move :(


Post# 992659 , Reply# 17   4/30/2018 at 17:10 by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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I bought 7 jugs of PPP (along with one on-hand) when the discontinuation was announced, while Target still had it available.† I strongly considered more but I'm leery of product deterioration on long-term storage.


Post# 992684 , Reply# 18   4/30/2018 at 22:12 by liamy1 (-)        
Foralaloysius

Yes, will concede they are correct as using the Henkel versions :)

On a side note, the lady in the ad below, Jean Metcalfe a famous radio presenter back in the day. Has the RP (Received Pronunciation) accent, which is the Queens English and all pronunciations in that accent are the standard for the English language, and you will her pronunciation of the word Persil.






Anyone using the Unilever Persil, must say it the English way, the Queen commands it, haha 😂



Post# 992727 , Reply# 19   5/1/2018 at 11:40 by Rolls_rapide (Scotland, UK)        
There is another way...

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Pronounce it with a 'Z', so 'Persil' (as Jean Metcalfe pronounces it), becomes 'Perzil'. I've heard this quite a lot.

Post# 992729 , Reply# 20   5/1/2018 at 12:26 by IowaBear (Cedar Rapids, IA)        

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I wonder how it's selling in the USA...anybody know?

 

I personally have not tried it, I'm not opposed, but I prefer powders and I've only seen liquid versions of it.


Post# 992774 , Reply# 21   5/1/2018 at 20:11 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Persil North America/USA Sales

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Of the "American" stuff is not doing well at all; well at least P&G seems to have little to fear.

global.handelsblatt.com/companie...

www.statista.com/statisti...

www.statista.com/statistics/1887...

Fact that Tide "Simply Fresh" shows in the rankings but Persil does not, isn't a very good sign IMHO.


Post# 992780 , Reply# 22   5/1/2018 at 21:16 by liamy1 (-)        
Someoneís...

Mum obviously doesnít know.

Suppose thatís the problem when launching in to a category that is at 100% saturation and with a plethora of longstanding brands, itís going to be very hard to distinguish a difference between you and the rest.

Letís face it, taking on the the Tide brand in the US was never going to end well, itíd be just like someone coming along and taking on Persil or Ariel here. (I favour Ariel myself, which is the true top selling detergent, but due to the way sales are counted, Persil holds the title as best selling).

Would probably explain why there isnít all that many detergent brand launches (can think of 3 major ones in my adult life). In every other category, brands are coming and going like the trains, detergent seems to remain even, doesnít stop them re-jigging products under the existing brands, they change weekly 🤣


Post# 992783 , Reply# 23   5/1/2018 at 21:28 by liamy1 (-)        
Rolls

Yes, Iíve heard that way once or twice too.

Post# 992812 , Reply# 24   5/2/2018 at 01:33 by Launderess (Quiet Please, Thereīs a Lady on Stage)        
Someone's Mum Just Dosen't Know

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What someone's Mum really ought to know.

Persil washes whiter!





Gawd the number Henkel did on UK/Commonwealth housewives and mothers what that advert campaign.










Post# 992818 , Reply# 25   5/2/2018 at 04:44 by liamy1 (-)        
Yes,

They certainly did - Dingy whites was about the only thing more worse than a housewife not having her front doorstep scrubbed and the rinse water ďjoinedĒ up with her neighbours rinse water by a certain time of the morning.

Persil was very good at appealing to womenís internal guilt of being subpar and not knowing what she should to achieve the whitest wash possible, exactly as mentioned in the business nightmares Persil Power program and also the washes whiter program. Persil was always marketed on the emotional side, about being a good mum, the keeper of the house and family. Ariel was always on the scentific side, they were this is what you need to get an immaculate wash and all your stains removed and thatís that.

From the about the 1 min 45 sec mark in this video






And if you watch the Persil and Ariel adverts in year order, from the playlist on the Laundry Lab YT channel, that format held very true from the advent of U.K. TV advertising in the 50s right through to the early 00s when advertising changed altogether due to the advent of social media, smartphones and streaming services. I do like old detergent adverts. Now itís very, throw this pod in, keep away from children though and bye.



Post# 992882 , Reply# 26   5/2/2018 at 14:41 by robbinsandmyers (Hamden CT)        

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I switched from Tide to Persil pro clean and love it. But its expensive and seems to suds lock the Maytag even worse lol

Post# 992918 , Reply# 27   5/2/2018 at 20:20 by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
Persil

See, I would use Persil if it smelled better, wasn't as sudsy, and cleaned as well as Tide Ultra Stain Release. However, P$G has the winning combo for the TUSR. I really wanted Persil to be great but it fell short of my expectations. Again, anything up against Tide is going to have a VERY hard time.

Post# 992928 , Reply# 28   5/2/2018 at 23:15 by robbinsandmyers (Hamden CT)        

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Ive gotta try that Tide and see how it works. Is it powder?

Post# 992939 , Reply# 29   5/3/2018 at 05:22 by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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Ive gotta try that Tide and see how it works. Is it powder?

 

It's a liquid.

 

 





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