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Thread Number: 10848
NEW TIMER DISCOVERY -CRAMER |
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Post# 197135 3/13/2007 at 17:18 (6,253 days old) by jetcone  (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I just discovered that my 1956 Bendix has a timer that is relatively unknown! Yes unknown! The Cramer timer. I sounds completely different I'll try to record it. It goes SNAP.....30 seconds....SNAP between advancements. Robert tried to tell me I was crazy and that I had a defective RobertShaw escapement on my hands but I persisted inspite of all the protests! I opened up the machine and here are the photos of the Cramer timer. YAY! Its like no other, it looks very much like the later Frigidaire 1-18 Timer blocks but its mechanism is no where near the same and besides they don't SNAP! See for your self the photographic evidence is here 
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Post# 197136 , Reply# 1 3/13/2007 at 17:19 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Side view installed in | ||
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Post# 197137 , Reply# 2 3/13/2007 at 17:21 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Here I found the manual | ||
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Post# 197138 , Reply# 3 3/13/2007 at 17:21 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Heres | ||
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Post# 197139 , Reply# 4 3/13/2007 at 17:22 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Here;s Page | ||
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Post# 197140 , Reply# 5 3/13/2007 at 17:23 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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And Page | ||
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Post# 197141 , Reply# 6 3/13/2007 at 17:24 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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And the final page from Doctrine | ||
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Post# 197143 , Reply# 7 3/13/2007 at 17:29 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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As you can see | ||
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Post# 197174 , Reply# 8 3/13/2007 at 19:00 (6,253 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis) |
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Post# 197187 , Reply# 9 3/13/2007 at 19:59 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Yes I think you are right | ||
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Post# 197216 , Reply# 11 3/13/2007 at 21:41 (6,253 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Hi Venus
I don't know if Cramer made timers for other machines as I have just "discovered" them but I'll keep my eye on the lookout from now on for sure. I do know my WFC-D washer came with either a Mallory or a Cramer timer and that would have meant it was dependant on the cost at the time of manufacture. So Cramer must have been undercutting the market which unfortunately put them in a weak position. Its a cool timer. So you could replace it with a Mallory if you were stuck. But I will be crusing ebay now for Cramer timers to see whats out there. Don't fret Mercury Retrograde is now over YAY! | ||
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Post# 197280 , Reply# 12 3/14/2007 at 01:15 (6,252 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Oh, that's very cool. | ||
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Post# 197315 , Reply# 13 3/14/2007 at 06:54 (6,252 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Timers
Hi Jon Is this from the washer dryer?? was it common to use different manufacturers or did companies tend to use the same components?? This is a "New/Old" MIB "Thermomatic" timer which was used in the 60`s Giromatic, the company making these Chamberlain & Hookham where an old establish arms & munitions manufacturer who later produced household electricity meters and other electro/mechanical components... 
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Post# 197316 , Reply# 14 3/14/2007 at 06:55 (6,252 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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MIB | ||
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Post# 197926 , Reply# 15 3/16/2007 at 21:59 (6,250 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Mike
That looks like our Mallory, Singer timers which were also used on Bendix. But I just realized they may have gone to the Cramer because it is so flat. Greg pointed out to me it looks like the tub weight is going to hit the timer when it Gyrates but it is so flat that it won't. If they had used the Mallory which is boxy the tub weight might hit it in unbalance. This Bendix was different in that it had its controls mounted right up front on the machine so clearance would have been an issue. 
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Post# 197933 , Reply# 16 3/16/2007 at 22:08 (6,250 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Bendix! | ||
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Post# 197938 , Reply# 17 3/16/2007 at 22:19 (6,250 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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If I am correct.... | ||
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Post# 197960 , Reply# 18 3/17/2007 at 01:48 (6,249 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Hi Peter And GG
Yes this is from what I can gather a 1956 and was made only this year, in 1957 they moved the controls to the rear left like Mike's machine in England. It is pretty and very functional too, Bendix was not always at the top of the style list but this model sure puts it there. GG I can't remember if there was a Bendix on Hazel, but it probably would have been a Philco Bendix by then. Does anybody have the show on DVD so we can check? In late 1957 they sold out to Philco which ended up being a good thing for us. As Philco owned Dexter and Dexter bought all the molding for the original Combos for their successful commercial bolt down machines and so now you can still get pumps and tranny parts for the Combos and can retro fit the Combo pumps to the Gyramatic machines. | ||
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