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Fisher and Paykel/AEI Hotpoint Top Loader

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Post# 198463 3/19/2007 at 18:19 (6,247 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)
Checkrate/Likes One for friends down-under...I was browsing for product design and discovered this. It appears that F&P were producing the UK AEI-Hotpoint 1500/1502 under licence (with some obvious modification), but had engineered their own matching dryer! I wonder if anyone down-under has come across these machines, or even has a set - they look great!! CLICK HERE TO GO TO liberator1509's LINK

Post# 198553 , Reply# 1 3/19/2007 at 23:23 (6,247 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)
Checkrate/Likes *These were badged as Kelvinator* I have seen these on a repairman's lot and also on a tv commercial, but here in Oz, they were badged as "Kelvinator", before F&P started branding their own machines under the F&P label. I have not seen one in a number of years, but there might still be some out there. Leon

Post# 198565 , Reply# 2 3/20/2007 at 00:22 (6,247 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)
Checkrate/Likes What does the "pressurized cabinet" design of the dryer entail?

Post# 198566 , Reply# 3 3/20/2007 at 00:31 (6,247 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)
Checkrate/Likes *Pressurised cabinet* The machine sucks air in from the back into the cabinet which causes pressurisation. There is an element assembly on the back of the drum which the air is pushed through. It then passes through the clothes into the filter and on the pictured machines is then piped out the back. On the Hoovers which were designed by F&P, the air vents through the lint filter and straight out the front through the door. I've seen 20 odd dryers like in the picture branded as GE and one F&P Toploaded the same as the picture branded as F&P.

Post# 198587 , Reply# 4 3/20/2007 at 06:35 (6,247 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)
Checkrate/Likes *F&P brand names* It seems that F&P have used quite a few alternative brand names over the years: the picture showed "Savaday", pronounced "save a day", the slogan was, "it's so fast you'll save a day a week." The linked article also mentions engineer Frank Shacklock - that was another NZ brand. My sister is married to a New Zealander, his parents brought a Shacklock freezer when they moved here. F&P also own the rights to the "Frigidaire" and "Kelvinator" brands in New Zealand. I have seen a Frigidaire branded version of the Gentle Annie washer. My mother has an old Kelvinator dishwasher, inside a label says "made in New Zealand for Kelvinator Australia." I have read somewhere that F&P first got into washing machine manufacture by assembling Hoovermatic twinnies under license. Chris.

Post# 198674 , Reply# 5 3/20/2007 at 16:43 (6,246 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)
Checkrate/Likes Hey all! Its great that people recognise these machines! I wonder if any of you have see the washer up-close - I wonder how it compares to the AEI Hotpoint on which is is based? The washer looks very similar to the 1501/1502 on which it was obviously based, the control layout is different (see the attached picture of the 1502 borrowed from elsewhere - credit to Keith from twintubemporium!). The article states that the machine was produced by F&P under licence from AEI -I wonder how much of the AEI mechanical design elements/components were retained, and was this an assembly or full production? Did the washer have the AEI 'Spiraclean' spiral agitator and the Filter-Clean recirculation (i.e. similar to the GE filter-flo)? Perhaps Nathan might be able to tell.... Its a shame Hotpoint didn't reciprocate the arrangement and market the F&P dryer over here.... David :-) The link is to a picture of a Hotpoint 1501 (also Keith's), the little picture is of the later 1502! CLICK HERE TO GO TO liberator1509's LINK

Post# 198676 , Reply# 6 3/20/2007 at 16:48 (6,246 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia)
Checkrate/Likes *It sure did* The machine has the spiral agitator and the filter flo pan. I've only ever seen the one, but the GE dryers appear very frequently.

Post# 198678 , Reply# 7 3/20/2007 at 16:54 (6,246 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)
Checkrate/Likes *wow - nathan - you're fast!* Speedy response mister - at least 1050rpm (that's Hotpoint TL speed) :-) If you ever come across one, please take some pics for me! Thanks David

Post# 199155 , Reply# 8 3/23/2007 at 13:08 (6,244 days old) by whiteway ()
Checkrate/Likes 1 *F and P Washer* I am from New Zealand and am now living in London This F and P washer was produced in NZ in 1967, under the name of Whiteway, Washrite, Challenge, or Savaday depending on which store you purchased the product from. I was a young boy in 1967 and my Mother had one of these machines. Years latter after visiting the UK, I realised the Savaday was as you say very similiar to the UK Hotpoint. I think in the early days of this machine most people thought it was in fact a new machine made by f and P and did not realise it was made under license. Prior to 1967 f and p used to import the bendix automatic machine, my grandmother had a bendix, I believe it used a lot of hot water and had to be bolted down. Back to the Savaday machine. It was a great machine and produced in NZ until about 1986 (basically the same machine with a few extra programes and changes to control panel). The 1967 Savaday washer main difference to the UK HOtpoint machine was that it used hot water from the domestic supply, where the UK Hotpoint heated the water in the machine. So the Savaday could complete a cycle in about 35 minutes. The machine did have a heater although few people used this function as it took about 90 minutes to heat the water to 60 degrees c and cost more than using the off peak domestic supply. The machine had the same agitator as the hotpoint it was also called Spiraclean and handled what was regarded as a large wash load in those days. I recall 4 single bed sheets was a full wash load. The spiraclean agitator had a good action, the machine washed very clean and the clothing came very dry with a 1000 rmp spin. There was a slow spin for drip dry clothing. I remember removing drip dry clothing and spinning the remaing load on the fast spin. There was a filter tray like the GE that collected fluff and held the measured amount of soap powder while the machine filled with hot, warm or cold water. This was the best automatic washer in NZ at this time. I think the other option was a Norge similiar to the USA machines, made under license also. The Norge was a larger machine on the outside but took about the same wash load as the Savaday. The Norge did not spin as fast and did not have 3 water levels as the Savaday did, nor did it have a slow spin option. So all in all the Savaday was a great machine for it day and by about the mid 1970's it have become the top selling machine in NZ by a long way. By about 1980 the machines were called different names as someone menionted. In 1896 f and p came out with an electronic machine of their own design which has also proven to be very sucessful. At this point F and P decided to market there machines as Fisher and Paykel as F and P by this time have become a household name. F and P have a web page on the history of their appliances and the company which is interesting. There is a F and P timeline which shows different machines sold over the years. The matching dryer was also a great machine as your article points out. In fact in NZ you will still see these dryers from the 1970's in peoples laundrys, still working which is a good advertisment. LG.

Post# 199209 , Reply# 9 3/23/2007 at 19:58 (6,243 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)
Checkrate/Likes *Hotpoint/F&P/Kelvinator* I've found one for sale...shame it is on the other side of the world! A bargin too... CLICK HERE TO GO TO liberator1509's LINK

Post# 199212 , Reply# 10 3/23/2007 at 20:04 (6,243 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)
Checkrate/Likes *That is the one i remember!!!* That is the exact model i remember from a few years ago! I wonder how much to get here in Oz! lol Leon

Post# 199458 , Reply# 11 3/25/2007 at 14:01 (6,242 days old) by liberator1509 (Ireland)
Checkrate/Likes LG Thanks for all that info on the Savaday machine! David

Post# 199609 , Reply# 12 3/26/2007 at 16:04 (6,240 days old) by whiteway ()
Checkrate/Likes *David* Other differences I recall with this Savaday machine to the Hotpoint was there was no work top as washing machines in NZ are nearly always in a seperate laundry room, unlike the UK where they are often under the kitchen counter. The controls were much more like the controls on a American washer, you could select hot, warm or cold water, hot was straight from the hot water tank, warm was equal amounts of hot and cold, cold of course was cold, there were water levels and you could programme the machine to wash up to 10 minutes, plus a choice of a slow or fast spin. The water in NZ is soft giving a very clean wash, little detergent was required and the machine did not seem to get a build up of lime scale as is common in parts of the UK and Europe. I too always thought the F and P machine was good looking, possibly better looking than the Hotpoint, (perhaps I am biased)! Leslie.

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