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Post# 202628   4/9/2007 at 20:36 (6,226 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Subit
To: webmaster@automaticwasher.org
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2007 5:56:15 PM
Subject: Hotpoint Combination Washer Dryer

We recently purchased a condo unit that has a (we presume non-working) circa 1968 Hotpoint combination washer-dryer (one combined unit), lovely olive color. Is this something as to which you have an interest? If you don't would you know someone who might?

Michael Subit
Seattle



----- Original Message -----
From: Robert
To: Michael Subit
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Hotpoint Combination Washer Dryer

Hi Michael, and thanks for writing. Would you be able to send me a digital picture or two of the machine? Then I can post it for our Seattle/Portland area members. I'm sure someone would like to add it to their collection and restore it.

Thanks.

-Robert Seger
Minneapolis

----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Subit
To: Robert
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 8:15:23 PM
Subject: Re: Hotpoint Combination Washer Dryer

Thanks for the prompt response. The only digital camera I have is the one on my cell-phone (I've been meaning to get a real one). I don't have anything that interfaces between the phone and computer. I am not sure what the best approach is at this point. I could send an image to a phone numbe but I am not sure that advances the ball any, We are looking to get it out of the condo unit in the next couple of weeks.



Well I will post your message for our club and see if anyone in the area is interested. Thanks for letting me know.




Post# 202631 , Reply# 1   4/9/2007 at 20:39 (6,226 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow thats a rare burd!!

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Hey Seattle wake up, Oh Eddy you aren't that far away....

Post# 202636 , Reply# 2   4/9/2007 at 20:59 (6,226 days old) by westytoploader ()        
HOTPOINT!?!?!

 I wonder if it's really a GE...

Post# 202777 , Reply# 3   4/10/2007 at 10:57 (6,225 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

It is really a GE of the period with HOTPOINT in the areas where GENERAL ELECTRIC would be. There is a high rise condo in Columbia, MD that had all Hotpoint kitchens with the undercounter combo badged as Hotpoint. If you had a SPIN X or one of the little Haier portables to spin the clothes well, it would not be too hard to live with one of these, although you would need a much larger container to catch the water from the SPIN X without a pump. Picture a cow on a flat rock without as much height.
Tom

Post# 202802 , Reply# 4   4/10/2007 at 14:14 (6,225 days old) by areuoneto ()        
Do we have way to contact the seller

 Ok let me know here I will go pick this baby up?

Post# 202817 , Reply# 5   4/10/2007 at 15:54 (6,225 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Brett, I just sent you an email with Michael's email address. Anyone relatively near the Seattle metropolitan area who might be interested, please let me know and I will email you the contact email address.

Post# 203229 , Reply# 6   4/11/2007 at 21:29 (6,224 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        
Well, here it is in the flesh

 Thought I would pop by and take a picture, so here is what it looks like

Post# 203230 , Reply# 7   4/11/2007 at 21:34 (6,224 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Definitely worth saving...if for nothing other than the washing action and capacity!

Post# 203231 , Reply# 8   4/11/2007 at 21:36 (6,224 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        
Interior Shot

 Home was retro in that the owners hadn't done anything since they moved in 35 years ago. It isn't known when this was last used.

Post# 203232 , Reply# 9   4/11/2007 at 21:41 (6,224 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        
Controls #1

 I thought the chrome looked pretty good when I was there so it might need a good cleaning. (doesn't look to good with the flash)

Post# 203233 , Reply# 10   4/11/2007 at 21:43 (6,224 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

WIsh it was closer... I need something else to play with..

Post# 203236 , Reply# 11   4/11/2007 at 21:47 (6,224 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        
controls #2

 Again, I think there is a little drywall texture on the machine, it would be easy to clean off.

Post# 203238 , Reply# 12   4/11/2007 at 21:53 (6,224 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        
Backside

 I've never seen one of these before. Lotsa tubes 'n stuff

Post# 203239 , Reply# 13   4/11/2007 at 21:55 (6,224 days old) by westytoploader ()        

I find it interesting that this machine has an 8-minute maximum wash time vs. 10 minutes on mine. I wonder if it has the combination snapping/silent timer escapement as well?

Post# 203240 , Reply# 14   4/11/2007 at 21:56 (6,224 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
WHAAAAAT no cold wash?

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Would anyone care to explain the dryer controls?
Do BOTH dialsnmove?

Post# 203241 , Reply# 15   4/11/2007 at 21:58 (6,224 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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What's with the spring thingy?
To keep the machine against the wall?

Post# 203242 , Reply# 16   4/11/2007 at 21:58 (6,224 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        
Side view

 Well it's too new for me so I am not too interested but it looks like another member might be. Here it is Brett come and get it!

Post# 203245 , Reply# 17   4/11/2007 at 22:15 (6,224 days old) by smartdrive (Lakewood, CA)        
That looks like

 the one I got two weeks ago. Toggles, I believe the spring is to keep the water hoses under tension and in the space above where the drain hose is when sliding the machine under the counter. Westy, mine lists 10 minutes also, but the interval is 45 seconds, and the time stops at 4 min on the dial. It probably is only 8 minutes wash time. I'm sure it uses the same timer as the GE.

Post# 203249 , Reply# 18   4/11/2007 at 22:19 (6,224 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Thanks!

Post# 203260 , Reply# 19   4/11/2007 at 22:45 (6,224 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada)        

This machine is just across the water from me...Victoria to Seattle.... hummmmm

Bob

Post# 203261 , Reply# 20   4/11/2007 at 22:46 (6,224 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow that one is in great shape

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that boot on the door looks very good.
Nice find with the Hotpoint logo and all.

Brett now you'll have true "piece by piece" washing action to clean your dirtiest clothes.

Greg's gonna slap me for revealing that one............

Post# 203268 , Reply# 21   4/11/2007 at 22:52 (6,224 days old) by bobbins (Victoria, BC, Canada)        

240V or 120V ?

Post# 203274 , Reply# 22   4/11/2007 at 23:20 (6,224 days old) by westytoploader ()        

This one looks like 240...most GE combos are.

Post# 203278 , Reply# 23   4/11/2007 at 23:46 (6,224 days old) by mixfinder ()        
Combo

 If there is a member who really wants it, I am happy to pick it up and store it until arrangements are made for pick up.
Kelly

Post# 203288 , Reply# 24   4/12/2007 at 00:16 (6,224 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        
Combo!

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I never realized they put the Hotpoint name on the GE combos.
Peter

Post# 203291 , Reply# 25   4/12/2007 at 00:18 (6,224 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Awesome find this Hotpoint - it looks beautiful! Love those original hoses too.

Post# 203339 , Reply# 26   4/12/2007 at 08:42 (6,223 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        

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gosh darn I need my house now!

Post# 203356 , Reply# 27   4/12/2007 at 10:36 (6,223 days old) by areuoneto ()        
Phone Tag

 I an doing my best to pick this up but the owner and I keep playing phone tag.

Post# 203359 , Reply# 28   4/12/2007 at 10:49 (6,223 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Toggles, no cold water wash. I don't know if the models very near the end of production did this, but if HOT wash was selected, the temperature sequence of the 3 rinses was Cold, Warm, Hot. If WARM wash was selected, all 3 rinses were warm. They did not want to lose any heat in that machine that would help extract more water from the load or do anything to slow the drying.

The dryer dial does not move, it is a thermostat; the more dry you want things, the higher the temperature. Regular dry starts off with both heating elements on. After the initial phase of drying, both cycle off and the timer dial moves a bit. When heat is called for again, only one element cycles on and the rest of the drying is done with one heater. Once the timer moves into dry, the timer motor only runs when the heating element(s) cycle off.

The Delicate dry cycle only uses one element from start to finish.

The condensing system is pretty crude and is also how the fabric softener dispenser works. The fill for the third rinse opens a cold water solenoid that sends a stream of water onto a small metal plate above the small plastic box holding the fabric softener. This dilutes and dispenses the softener through a syphon tube. Once the drying starts, the same cold water solenoid that dispensed the softener, sends a stream of water onto this plate which is also the top most opening of the machine. The steam rises and meets this small cold plate and reservoir of water. Some of it condenses. Then the stream of water overflows from the little plastic box down the side wall of the outer tub where it does some more condensing and then goes through the strainer and down the drain. If the cold water pressure is too high, the overspray will keep rewetting the clothes. That happened in a very nice high rise in Atlanta.

Brian, check the model designation plate. At one time GE made the built in model in both 230 and 208 volt models (for apts and commercial buildings on 208). If yours is a 208 volt machine, it might dry somewhat faster because the extra wattage will cause it to reach the operating temperature faster, although the heating elements' life will be somewhat shortened.

That sawed off piece of copper pipe at the end of the drain hose tells something else about the built in combo. The drain hose had to be sealed to the drain pipe. GE did not want any water damage from leaks or back ups behind the combo because the drain was less than counter height and in kitchens, that meant below the maximun fill of the sink. If the sink or anything else above the combo could not drain properly, there was the possibility that it would back up through the combo's stand pipe. In cases where the combo drained into a standard drain pipe, the drain hose came with a flared collar on the end (probably cut off this drain hose) that was put over the drain pipe and clamped in place with a large hose clamp.

One more thing, Brian. Did you get the metal plate that goes under the combo? It would have been screwed to the floor and have a channel on each side for the feet. The fact that the undercounter installation sort of held the combo in place meant that it was less likely to trip the unbalance switch in the left front leg than the free standing model so it could give a bit better extraction.

Enjoy, Tom

Post# 203363 , Reply# 29   4/12/2007 at 10:59 (6,223 days old) by areuoneto ()        
I am picking it up Saturday

 I will post pictures when I get this puppy home

Brett

Post# 203400 , Reply# 30   4/12/2007 at 14:06 (6,223 days old) by exploder3211 ()        

Glad it was saved by another memeber

Post# 206041 , Reply# 31   4/24/2007 at 18:25 (6,211 days old) by areuoneto ()        
Well it's home and needs help

 After getting this baby home I got a chance to play with it, it needs some help It will not do a wash it just dries away in the wash program and keeps heating away. Any idea's guys?

Brett

Post# 206172 , Reply# 32   4/25/2007 at 08:12 (6,210 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

This sounds like a timer problem because the direction of tumble dictates what the combo will do. Wash and rinse tumble in clockwise direction, I think. Anything involved in draining, and this includes DRY to pump out the condensation water, tumbles or spins counter clockwise. This is reversed if I have it wrong. This directional operation is because the direction in which the motor is turning the pump determines whether it drains or not since it only drains in one direction. The timer has a very tricky sub-interval switch that works during the pump out periods to control the flushes at the end of each drain.

So even in the SOAK cycle, it seems stuck in dry? What happens if you push WASH ONLY or, more truthfully, DRIP DRY? Does the machine stop drying? While it is drying, does the cold water solenoid for the condensor work?

The timer can be rebuilt, but getting the sub-interval switches to work right gives the rebuilders trouble. Tom


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