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Post# 251700 12/2/2007 at 20:40 (5,989 days old) by sudsmaster  (SF Bay Area, California) |
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I picked up this ISE Classic Supreme Dishwasher the other day. It's in great shape, and even came with owner's manual and installation manual. To me it looks similar to a KA Model 21, but it's in far better shape than the Model 21 I had for a while (that one had rusted out racks, a torn fine filter, and a sprung door). Anybody have an idea of what year the ISE Classic Supreme might be? 
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Post# 251712 , Reply# 1 12/2/2007 at 22:21 (5,989 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Post# 251713 , Reply# 2 12/2/2007 at 22:22 (5,989 days old) by rapidry1000 (San Francisco) |
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Suds I have the identical dishwasher purchased in 1988. It's a bit noisy compared to newer dishwashers but washes very well and quickly. Jim rapidry1000 | ||
| Post# 251715 , Reply# 3 12/2/2007 at 22:33 (5,989 days old) by selectomatic () | ||
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I don't think it's a 21. Of course it's hard to tell what changes were made when it was re-badged as an ISE, but the KA 21s had door latches which went down flush with the panel. If I had to guess, I'd say it looks more like an Imperial KDI 18 or so. -kevin | ||
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Post# 251717 , Reply# 4 12/2/2007 at 22:36 (5,989 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Found this | ||
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Post# 251719 , Reply# 5 12/2/2007 at 22:37 (5,989 days old) by gadgetgary (Bristol,CT) |
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Interior shot | ||
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Post# 251720 , Reply# 6 12/2/2007 at 22:41 (5,989 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA) |
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Post# 251728 , Reply# 7 12/2/2007 at 23:23 (5,989 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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ISE! | ||
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Post# 251733 , Reply# 8 12/3/2007 at 00:00 (5,989 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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My KDC-17 has a latch that goes down flush with the panel, so apparently the latch not being flush is a change that ISE made independent of KA. This one also has a plastic hot air blower housing, which means it might be later than a KD-21. The KDS-21 I had used a metal housing. Don't know when KA and/or ISE switched over to plastic blowers, though. There are six buttons on the ISE Classic Supreme, and no dial. There are three indicator lights: Wash, Rinse, Dry. The buttons are: Pots and Pans, Normal, Light, Rinse/Hold, No Heat Dry, Cancel. The Classic Supreme was apparently TOL for ISE. | ||
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Post# 251734 , Reply# 9 12/3/2007 at 00:05 (5,989 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 251735 , Reply# 10 12/3/2007 at 00:07 (5,989 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 251736 , Reply# 11 12/3/2007 at 00:08 (5,989 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Post# 251754 , Reply# 12 12/3/2007 at 06:58 (5,989 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Me thinks this ISE Classic Supreme may be the equivalent of that Imperial KA model with the rapid-advance timer we saw posted here a few days ago (ya know the one who's owner ws thinking it might be ghaving a rinse issue skipping the final rinse). A Superba equivalent would have the Sani-Rinse button on the right-hand side, if not a Sani-Wash main cycle button. | ||
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Post# 251758 , Reply# 13 12/3/2007 at 07:59 (5,989 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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That handle & buttons throw off dating.
This door handle and button style were used on 19 and 20 series KitchenAid machines, and on the ISE machines for a little longer beyond what KA/WP were using. This is a reversing motor dishwasher which would indicate it was a post-21 series model production, either by Hobart for ISE or Whirlpool after the takeover in 1986. The 21 series also had an 800 watt heater moved up out of the sump and into the lower-tank area (pictured) and the blower simply moved room-temperature air into the tank during the drying cycle.
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Post# 251768 , Reply# 16 12/3/2007 at 08:35 (5,989 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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Interior shot 
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Post# 251769 , Reply# 17 12/3/2007 at 08:36 (5,989 days old) by easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC) |
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controls Here's a close-up of the controls. 
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Post# 251796 , Reply# 19 12/3/2007 at 10:58 (5,989 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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Noise is an issue
Noise is something of an issue since the kitchen area is open to the family room with no doorway, and there are no closing doors to the living room, dining room. Plus the bedrooms are close by. Currently I have a modern Bosch, which replaced a noisy modern Frigidaire. The Bosch is pretty quiet but I can still hear it draining (mainly through the air gap). The Bosch works fine, but I'm interested to see how the ISE washes and if the cycles are shorter (the Bosch usually takes about 100 minutes per load). Unfortunately due to a built-up floor in front of the cutout for the dishwasher, removing and installing units in this location is a bit of a chore. I have shimmed up the "pit" where the dishwasher sits, with a sheet of plywood, but it's still lower than the surrounding flooring (on my list is to rip out all the layers of kitchen floor including 1/2" of particle board and bring the level back down to where it should be, and extend the flooring under the dishwasher area). What I should so is to modify the cabinets in the patio kitchen to accept a built-in dishwasher... someday! | ||
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Post# 251850 , Reply# 21 12/3/2007 at 16:38 (5,988 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California) |
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