Thread Number: 16518
What Does Speed Queen, Hotpoint, AMC Coronado, Easy and Grainger have in common? |
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Post# 273865   4/5/2008 at 08:15 (5,876 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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The Beam version of those machines (solenoid Speed Queen types I'm referring to) use huge solenoid(s) to shifts into wash and spin. Well Grainger still sells those exact solenoids! Yay, part number 2x662. The catalog page even descrbibes the solenoid as "Solenoid,Laundry 2X662: For Hotpoint, Maytag, Norge, Speed Queen, Philco-Bendix, and other brands of washers and dryers." I needed a new one because the Agitate solenoid in my 1956 Hotpoint started to smoke. Those of you with vintage Beam style machines might want to pick up a few of these to have on hand. Gosh the brand new one looks all nice a shiny compared to the only one. The only difference I can see between these two is the terminals are on the opposite side, but who cares, the frame is exactly the same otherwise. CLICK HERE TO GO TO unimatic1140's LINK |
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Post# 273867 , Reply# 1   4/5/2008 at 08:18 (5,876 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Post# 273869 , Reply# 2   4/5/2008 at 08:59 (5,876 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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OMG Robert this is so funny! I was at work two days ago thumbing through the catalog in a training session for one of my Electrical Tech Support guys. I was on that very page, 337, and said to the new guy - hey look, we even sell solenoids for old washers! Grainger also used to sell direct replacement motors for all the major washer brands but discontinued about 5 years ago as the demand had fallen out from our customers. Take a look at a 4UE53 - an almost perfect match to a Kelvinator motor, minus the set screw hole on the shaft that needs to be drilled. Ben |
Post# 273882 , Reply# 3   4/5/2008 at 10:15 (5,876 days old) by golittlesport (California)   |   | |
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Post# 273888 , Reply# 4   4/5/2008 at 11:41 (5,876 days old) by scott55405 ()   |   | |
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You saved washday for Mrs. Nelson! |
Post# 273912 , Reply# 5   4/5/2008 at 15:14 (5,876 days old) by hooverwheelaway ()   |   | |
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It's beeeeeautiful! :-) ~F |
Post# 274021 , Reply# 6   4/6/2008 at 12:18 (5,875 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)   |   | |
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Post# 274072 , Reply# 7   4/6/2008 at 20:47 (5,875 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 274101 , Reply# 8   4/7/2008 at 00:09 (5,874 days old) by sudsmaster (SF Bay Area, California)   |   | |
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Post# 274765 , Reply# 9   4/11/2008 at 20:15 (5,870 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)   |   | |
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This week I was in Lincolnshire, IL for business. I took a new position within the Technical Product Support team for Grainger. What was the first thing I did when I got to town? Started digging in the old catalogs! Here is a wonderful example from the spring of 1975. Lists the MFG OEM part number for the replacement solenoids. Note that each listed here are the exact same ones that Robert had pointed out earlier - and are still for sale. Who would have thought? Ben |
Post# 276620 , Reply# 10   4/24/2008 at 17:21 (5,857 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)   |   | |
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Post# 276721 , Reply# 12   4/25/2008 at 10:21 (5,856 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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You can not go into too much detail - I am fascinated. Often wondered how the manufacturers dealt with the relationships between inductive load, electromagnetic force needed and heat loss (or not) over single and repeated actuations. Not to mention the fact that, at least into the early 50s, they'd have had to build for 25-60hz...or was that too great a range to even attempt? Do say more. Another question, sorry, but get these things in my head and they just echo around forever: Is the heat rise the reason for teflon insulation? I could see how that might have made things easier. Thanks! |
Post# 277210 , Reply# 14   4/27/2008 at 23:50 (5,853 days old) by tuthill ()   |   | |
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Very interesting post! that's pretty cool you get to design something that has to meet all those specifications |
Post# 277223 , Reply# 15   4/28/2008 at 04:46 (5,853 days old) by panthera (Rocky Mountains)   |   | |
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Post# 277242 , Reply# 16   4/28/2008 at 06:53 (5,853 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)   |   | |
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Interesting that the Catalog Page indicates that the MAXIMUM ON-TIME is 3 MINUTES. I sure hope that is a misprint. yeah I saw that too before I bought it, but I just assumed it was a mistake, and sure enough it was. The Hotpoint works just fine now and after a 15 minute wash cycle the solenoid is only warm, just like the original ones. |