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Post# 279124   5/9/2008 at 13:18 (3,790 days old) by norgenocker ()        

I was just in Home Depot and peered in the glass window of new Maytag top loader--huge tub, with only the tiniest thing you might call an agitator at the bottom. How does this machine work?

Post# 279171 , Reply# 1   5/9/2008 at 18:29 (3,790 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Concord, CA (But my heart will always be in sweet Nevada!))        
Ahhhh, The Maytag Bravos...

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It works similar to the F&P washer but its a Whirlpool Cabrio with the name changed to protect the innocent... It will alternately fill and spin the tub to a point then just fill. Washing is done by running and reversing the disc at the bottom while the tub moves around. One of these days, I'm going to have to video one doing it's thing thru the glass lid. The first washer of that style without a proper agitator I can remember was actually a Sanyo washer from way back when.

Whirlpool has alot of time and money invested in this design as the current direct drive washer design will go away in 2010 due to the govt. energy standards. The Cabrio/Bravos will be their bread and butter after that.


Post# 279192 , Reply# 2   5/9/2008 at 20:25 (3,790 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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so the standard agitator washer is dead in 2010?

Post# 279194 , Reply# 3   5/9/2008 at 20:53 (3,790 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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---makes great margaritas!!!!!!

Post# 279195 , Reply# 4   5/9/2008 at 20:56 (3,790 days old) by jeffg ()        

Looking at charts for 2007, how do the Cabrios, Bravos etc qualify as energy saving? At least current models use more energy than most other washers, direct drive or otherwise:

We just replaced a Cabrio 6200 (annual kWh: 464) with a direct drive Speed Queen AWS76 (annual kWh: 445). The differences in performance, speed etc are like night and day.

If Whirlpool is making Cabrio their bread and butter, the company will eventually starve to death. There's no way major hotel chains, commercial laundromats etc can put up with half-washed sheets, towels and clothing.

Post# 279210 , Reply# 5   5/9/2008 at 23:26 (3,790 days old) by shanonabc ()        

I did a video of our F&P AquaSmart... Follow the link


Post# 279237 , Reply# 6   5/10/2008 at 07:06 (3,789 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC)        
agree with Jeff G...

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there just isn't enough turnover. The bottom of the load looks like it will be shredded even more than the infamous Shredmore design (?). It doesn't appear like you overloaded your Aquasmart either - which the average Joe or Jane typically does (!).

Post# 279247 , Reply# 7   5/10/2008 at 08:33 (3,789 days old) by thomasortega (Los Angeles - CA)        

... technically tumbling is the best technology.
Cabrio/Bravos, Calypso (collapse), and all those HE toys are bullshit.
Cabrio spends more o the same water as a front loader..

So... where´s the different stuff whirlpool promissed some years ago? a giant blender?

Post# 279561 , Reply# 8   5/12/2008 at 08:52 (3,787 days old) by norgenocker ()        
I think I watched

the same bra sit on the top for five minutes.

Post# 279681 , Reply# 9   5/12/2008 at 19:00 (3,787 days old) by shanonabc ()        

LOL... It was only white shirts in the wash LOL...

Post# 279690 , Reply# 10   5/12/2008 at 19:28 (3,787 days old) by shanonabc ()        

Also, Even with overloaded loads I have found that it sorts them out and gets decent turnover or as F&P call it "blooming"

Post# 281622 , Reply# 11   5/25/2008 at 06:06 (3,774 days old) by tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
The Cabrio/Bravos will be their bread and butter after that.

More like hardtack & lard

Post# 281633 , Reply# 12   5/25/2008 at 08:33 (3,774 days old) by andrewinorlando ()        

With us "laundry-o-philes" in this group, we can certainly find cause to pick apart just about any design out there and think they're crap compared to our beloved top loaders of days gone by. But the average washer-buying Joe or Jane could care less. They throw the clothes in, turn it on, and the machine shits them out when it's done. End of story. Whirlpool (and F&P, too) have had some pretty good success with this design/machine, so I think we can expect to see them around for a while. Whether or not they are more efficient than a traditional top loader doesn't seem to matter, but they are certainly more expensive, and larger, than any traditional top loader. Some members here have them, and are very pleased with their performance, just as I've been with the Calypso for 7 years now. They both seem to do what they're supposed to do and do it well. It's the wave of the future folks, get used to it. And save those old Filter Flos, belt drive Whirlys and Maytags from their deaths. They're the last of their kind. Almost like when the dinosaurs went extinct!! Very sad.

Post# 281645 , Reply# 13   5/25/2008 at 10:20 (3,774 days old) by bobbyd32l ()        

I think that the Cabrio has very good turn over. Mine does. Here is a video that I took a while back:


Post# 281660 , Reply# 14   5/25/2008 at 13:04 (3,774 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I like my Calypso. I washed a pillow several days ago that's labeled "spot clean only" (cotton and polyester construction). It turned out very well. If I was restricted to only one toploader, I'd choose the Calypso (at this point in time of not yet having used my Neptune TL). As much as I like my F&P IWL12, Calypso is more versatile in handling large/bulky items.

Post# 281816 , Reply# 15   5/26/2008 at 16:05 (3,773 days old) by johnb300m (Chicago)        

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how's the wear and tear on clothes in the Cabrios?

Post# 282231 , Reply# 16   5/29/2008 at 03:48 (3,771 days old) by sudsmaster (East of SF, West of Eden, California)        

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Consumer Reports, for what it's worth, gave the Bravos very high ratings. I believe it was the top rated top loader, and near the top in the overall ratings as well.

Post# 282346 , Reply# 17   5/29/2008 at 17:52 (3,770 days old) by alanh ()        

Andrew said: "And save those old Filter Flos..."

In case some of y'all missed by post in the vintage forum, I have a 1983 Filter-Flo that needs rescuing.


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