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Post# 308946   10/12/2008 at 22:08 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Remember this ad? There was one of these washers, in platinum gray, in a store window for many years in a store near my former Launderall dealer. I wanted that washer in the worst way, the color, the solid state controls and of course, the grand style of the Whirlpool slanted controls. I responded to an ad for a serger and found out that it was at the same store as I'd seen the washer in for eight years. I stopped in a couple of times a year and asked about the washer but was always told it didn't work/wasn't for sale/or even sold awaiting delivery. I asked about it again the other day and was told it was gone, junked with other old appliances. Out of sheer curiosity, I went to the 45 year old store and was delighted to find the washer, moved to the back room. It was finally mine!!




Post# 308947 , Reply# 1   10/12/2008 at 22:09 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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This is it - in Platinum!! Just as I found it, home from it's captors after eight long years...

Post# 308948 , Reply# 2   10/12/2008 at 22:12 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I was told it "didn't work" or needed parts a few times but after a couple of tries, everything seemed to work just as it was supposed to do. I started cleaning it up and discovered it was used very lightly and remarkably clean under the layer of dust...

Post# 308949 , Reply# 3   10/12/2008 at 22:12 (5,674 days old) by nmaineman36 ()        

Thats a beautiful washer. I always loved those belt drives. Hopefully she starts right up for you Greg.

Post# 308950 , Reply# 4   10/12/2008 at 22:15 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Since we have the Double-Duty Super Surgilator out of the washer, let's see how it differs from a standard Super Surgilator...

This winged-beauty is a very efficient agitator, one of the best in a large capacity washer.


Post# 308951 , Reply# 5   10/12/2008 at 22:16 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Get this - as I cleaned deeper into the machine, I discovered that it had never been used! Outside of the surface dust and some minor dings and bumps from being in a crowded store for many years, the machine is NEW!

Post# 308952 , Reply# 6   10/12/2008 at 22:17 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I got it cleaned and put back together so we're washing 1980's style now!

Post# 308953 , Reply# 7   10/12/2008 at 22:18 (5,674 days old) by bigalsf (Salt Lake City)        
That is a great washer!!

Congrats on your find!! That is a really nice machine, and the controls are quite intuitive & flexible. This was Whirlpool's 2nd edition of electronic controls, with many improvements on the 1st generation control layout. Have fun with it!! :)

Post# 308954 , Reply# 8   10/12/2008 at 22:18 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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It's first load...

Everything works perfectly - and so quietly.


Post# 308955 , Reply# 9   10/12/2008 at 22:19 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Controls left:

Post# 308957 , Reply# 10   10/12/2008 at 22:20 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Controls right:

Post# 308959 , Reply# 11   10/12/2008 at 22:24 (5,674 days old) by pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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GREG!!!! That washer is GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I do wish these were more common!!!!!! FABULOUS!!! CONGRATULATIONS on saving this beauty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post# 308960 , Reply# 12   10/12/2008 at 22:28 (5,674 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Hey Greg,
Great find! My sister had this in white.Hers would eat baby socks like there was no tomorrow.I told her stop loading it so high.


Post# 308961 , Reply# 13   10/12/2008 at 22:34 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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What the clothes see...

Post# 308962 , Reply# 14   10/12/2008 at 22:40 (5,674 days old) by unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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Wow Greg, amazing another MIB washer! Now you have to find this same model in Sea-Foam green like that picture of the day :)

Post# 308963 , Reply# 15   10/12/2008 at 22:46 (5,674 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA)        

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*jaw hitting floor* good gawd man, does it ever stop? You've talked about this machine for a while now. Nice to see that not only is it in your garage, but the darn thing is brand new! Congrats Greg.

Okay, one quick question. Does this have a microprocessor board that controls the motor functions via relays, or is it like the later KitchenAid with a rapid advance timer?

Ben


Post# 308964 , Reply# 16   10/12/2008 at 22:46 (5,674 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I remember you taking me by

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to see this machine. How strange that they kept saying it was broken. And then thrown out and now its yours. Why are people so strange about washing machines?
Bizarre

BTW nice score I know how much you wanted this machine and you worked for it by stopping by all the time!
Wonderful color, but a bizarre agitator. Never saw one work but can't believe those fins don't get in the way of the clothes moving.


Post# 308965 , Reply# 17   10/12/2008 at 22:46 (5,674 days old) by roto204 (Tucson, AZ)        
Sweet!!!

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That is truly a thing of beauty. Congratulations!!

Post# 308967 , Reply# 18   10/12/2008 at 23:02 (5,674 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Here are the controls for the washer. The circuit boards are on the left and moving beyond is the transformer, two motor relays (hi and lo speed), the power on-off switch and finally the water level control.

Post# 308968 , Reply# 19   10/12/2008 at 23:02 (5,674 days old) by jetaction (Minneapolis)        
Whew,,, New in Box!!

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What a great find, and I too remember seeing this in the store in Omaha. Some things were meant to be!

Post# 308969 , Reply# 20   10/12/2008 at 23:04 (5,674 days old) by tuthill ()        

Wow that is so cool, a solid state Whirlpool, NEVER USED! Unbelievable.

Post# 308973 , Reply# 21   10/12/2008 at 23:15 (5,674 days old) by jons1077 (Vancouver, Washington, USA)        
Now THAT...

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is a cool machine!!! So glad you were persistant and got to finally take it home. That's just awesome.

What year do you think it is? I want to say I remember these being around in the mid 80's right? I'm assuming it's a two-speed machine but the "hand-washables" indicator on the water-level setting makes me wonder about a 3rd speed?

Ok...ok. One last question. Wash this machine made near the crossover to DD? That washtub looks very DD to me but obviously it's a belt-drive. Just curious on that too.

Congrats again and hope to see videos!!!

Jon


Post# 308988 , Reply# 22   10/12/2008 at 23:40 (5,674 days old) by peterh770 (Marietta, GA)        

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Congrats on your dream machine! I have always loved the way the control touchpad was laid out. So clean and logical! Enjoy!

Post# 309002 , Reply# 23   10/13/2008 at 02:37 (5,674 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Greg, What a hard earned Find. Im so happy you got it and it was brand new, after all. arthur

Post# 309003 , Reply# 24   10/13/2008 at 02:50 (5,674 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Wow

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Hi Greg, now that looks like an "electronic Panel" should look like!!!IMHO....love the sleek lines of it!! Do the four indicators under the main selector (turn on power, select load etc) turn red & indicate when you start to programme etc??

I feel I should know this but how does the "Magic Clean Filter" work?? Happy washing, Mike


Post# 309019 , Reply# 25   10/13/2008 at 05:42 (5,674 days old) by gyrafoam (Wytheville, VA)        

Wow! After what you told me about this machine, I thought it just might be a new one! Congratulations. I know you love it!

Have heard some different ideas about the reason for the wings on the agitator. One reason was to hold the clothes up away from the drain-holes in the bottom of the wash-basket for better draining.

Don't wave a bag of Viva near her!


Post# 309024 , Reply# 26   10/13/2008 at 06:25 (5,674 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia)        
Very Impressive!

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Very nice machine!

Love the solid state controls!

Congrats!
Leon


Post# 309029 , Reply# 27   10/13/2008 at 08:06 (5,674 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut)        
Aferim!

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Yet another Whirlpool that changes my mind.

You and Robert need to give a seminar on finding these beauties. How do you do it?


Post# 309032 , Reply# 28   10/13/2008 at 08:25 (5,674 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Greg, what a fantastic score!! You were sure right when you told me it looked just like new, WOW it sure does. That is amazing. I love that color, once again one that they need to bring back. I can just see that machine with all those red lights and the console light glowing in a dark room!! Congratulations on another great find. After all those years of checking on her she is finally yours!!!

Post# 309036 , Reply# 29   10/13/2008 at 08:56 (5,674 days old) by rickr (.)        

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Great catch Greg!! And after all these years...

Why would anyone keep a TOL machine, in a rare colour around gathering dust for 20+ years is beyond! Their loss is your gain, and I am glad it found a good home!


Post# 309037 , Reply# 30   10/13/2008 at 09:01 (5,674 days old) by northwesty (Renton, WA)        

Very cool, I too find it strange the salespeople told all these stories and not the truth. Must have wanted to sell just the new washers.

Post# 309044 , Reply# 31   10/13/2008 at 09:39 (5,674 days old) by brastemp (Brazil)        

Really Cool... I would like to see some video about this washer!

Post# 309046 , Reply# 32   10/13/2008 at 09:49 (5,674 days old) by golittlesport (California)        

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Congratulations! Thanks for all the photos and information!

Post# 309053 , Reply# 33   10/13/2008 at 10:31 (5,674 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        

Greg, congratulation on your amazing find! That is the exact washer I purchased in 1980 with the matching gas dryer, but my set was harvest gold. The washer was excellent and I used it until mid 90's when I purchased my present Maytag set.

I gave both washer and dryer to my BIL, who has 5 kids. About two years ago the washer said basta! but he still has the dryer though. If I'm not mistaken, I sent him all the usuer manuals and literature that came with the set, I will ask him if he has kept the literature for the washer. In this case, they are yours for sure!

With time my washer developed an erratic fault, it would not start of very humid days. Maybe the electronic board became shorted by the humidity, who knows. Anyway, what I had to do was turn the washer on, push the pause key and let the electronics stay on 24/7. In this way the washer would always work when needed.

I'll keep you informed about the washer literature.

Emilio



Post# 309054 , Reply# 34   10/13/2008 at 10:36 (5,674 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        

Sorry, the "pause" button I mentioned is actually labeled Hold, which is located to the right of the panel right next to the Run key...

Post# 309071 , Reply# 35   10/13/2008 at 13:30 (5,673 days old) by a440 ()        

Greg your new machine is just awesome!
I love the color!
Is this one of the first electronic models? I remember looking at these years to buy, but ended up getting the Kenmore pair. There was a price difference or something. I don't remember the pair that I looked at back then having the on / off toggle switch. I could be wrong.
Do you switch it off when you are finished, or does it turn off from the board, and you have to flip it off, and then on again?
Thanks for the pictures. I bet it smelled so good washing the first load!
Brent


Post# 309073 , Reply# 36   10/13/2008 at 14:30 (5,673 days old) by nmaineman36 ()        

The Double Duty Surgilator thats found in this washer is very effective. Those upswept vanes deflect the water coming off the agitator and forces it upward with each stroke. It will turn a good size load over. I have tried that regular Surgilator before in the Whirlpool I had in the 80's and it cleans well but doesnt turn the load over as well I think. I should dig up the pics I have of the Whirlpool Imperial I had in the mid 80's. Nice machine.

Post# 309107 , Reply# 37   10/13/2008 at 15:47 (5,673 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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There is a POD of the first electronic control Whirlpool washer and matching pushbutton dryer (sensor dry - just not electronic controls) that is pictured in a lovely shade of blue-green. I used to have another electronic control WP washer from 1980 (pic) but it had some mechanical issues and I had to make room for my turquoise 59 Multi-tragic washer (I should have kept the WP?) so I kept the panel and let it go. I have one of the panels from the first and second styles of electronic control machines, I'll dig them out later and photo them so we can see the differences. Coming of age in the era of Pong, Atari and Merlin, I thought these solid state machins were just spectacularly advanced.

This machine is one of the last belt-drive revisions before the switch to all direct-drive in 86. The Magic-Clean filter in this machine is simply a plastic comb-filter under the basket, just like in the direct drive washers. You can see the clips for it on the bottom of the basket (under where the agitator would be) in one of the pics above.

The power switch is a momentary contact switch, similar to a dryer start switch. Push it up to power the controls and then make your selections, the machine starts automatically after 8 seconds. If you turn on the power and don't change any selections, the washer will default to the Normal/Heavy cycle, warm/cold and hi speed agitate and spin, 14 minute wash.


Post# 309123 , Reply# 38   10/13/2008 at 17:20 (5,673 days old) by kenmoreguy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
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Looks like that washer landed softly to a VERY appreciating home, and that is outstanding. WP/Kenmore didn't make many machines with the white baskets in the mid-80s, but they sure looked nice! Congrats 10-times over Gansky!

I am curious - when you open the lid when the machine is running, does it shut off? I sold one Kenmore 1978-built electronic machine years ago and it was made to shut off whenever the lid was raised, which as we know is odd for a Kenmore. This was a first generation electronic model though. I haven't worked on one since.

About the 'wings' on the double-duty agitator...I am pretty sure they were designed to "scoop up" the clothes at the bottom of the tub and help them get started on their way back up, hence their eliptical shape. Whirlpool was limited in what they could do with these machines since Kenmore had the Dual-Action patent. The basket/tubs of 1981 and newer machines are slightly smaller (narrower and shorter) than the previous 196? - 1980 large capacity units, so the agitators are a little bit more effective in the newer tub, but WP needed something better than a basic Super Surgilator to compete with the DA.


Post# 309135 , Reply# 39   10/13/2008 at 19:09 (5,673 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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From top --

c. 1978

c. 1980

c. 1983


Post# 309139 , Reply# 40   10/13/2008 at 19:23 (5,673 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Oops. Flip the year info - should be "from the bottom to the top"

Top: c. 1983

Middle: c. 1980

Bottom: c. 1978


Post# 309142 , Reply# 41   10/13/2008 at 20:00 (5,673 days old) by a440 ()        

Awesome Washer Heads!
I can't get over these came out in 1978. How advanced for the 70's!
The washer that I looked at in the late 90's had all of the selections in a row. The selection pads however were much smaller. I remember the water level switch, but don't remember the on / off switch. Somewhere I have the brochures. I might find them one day.
Thanks for the explanation of how the on / off switch works.
Brent


Post# 309169 , Reply# 42   10/13/2008 at 22:51 (5,673 days old) by 70series ( Connecticut.)        

Congrats on this magnificent find Greg. It's been a real NIB year for you with acquiring the new 1960s Kenmore set in July and now this. Your persistence paid off, and I am glad you saved it, as the mere thought of an unused washer being discarded does not sit well with me. Good job.

I remember seeing photos in your old Yahoo albums of the 1983(?) electronic model, which was really cool. From the looks of the console pic above, that is all you have left of it. I'm glad you have another one.

Have a good one,
James



Post# 309255 , Reply# 43   10/14/2008 at 14:55 (5,672 days old) by irishwashguy (Salem,Oregon.............A Capital City)        
Congrads Greg

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Gorgious machine Greg! I have one question......I played with the Lady Kenmore version at Sears religiously at Sears when I was a kid.......Wille, my sales lady showed me the difference between "beep' 'Beep' 'boop' meaning, good choice, good choice, a bad choice, you had better hurry up and make another or it would just default and start the progam. Is this one simmilar to that?
PS, love the Super Surgulator! I think that they did a better cleaning job than the other.


Post# 309257 , Reply# 44   10/14/2008 at 15:12 (5,672 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Yay!

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Beautiful machine. I found a few scans I made from an old magazine with such a machine. According to my knowledge this ad is from 1981.

Post# 309259 , Reply# 45   10/14/2008 at 15:13 (5,672 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And this one is supposed to be from 1982.

Post# 309260 , Reply# 46   10/14/2008 at 15:14 (5,672 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I forgot, the scans are from a magazine called Architectural Digest.

Post# 309263 , Reply# 47   10/14/2008 at 15:34 (5,672 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Nice mo-chine!

To those wanting a collector washer, there ya go, perseverence pays off. They're still out there waiting to be discovered!


Post# 309288 , Reply# 48   10/14/2008 at 16:53 (5,672 days old) by iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        
Now that's a machine

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That was a day when they were Whirlpool,and not the Whirlcrap they are today.
What a great find. I remember looking at them at Electric Home back in the late 70's. I wanted an electronic machine, my Mom a GE Person at that time wouldn't have it. Besides, "Whirlpools drain their dirty water though the clothes and leave lint all over everything." In other words, Mom didn't/doesn't like neutral drain.



Post# 309297 , Reply# 49   10/14/2008 at 18:29 (5,672 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Hey Greg, where's the fabric softner dispenser for the agitator?

Post# 309361 , Reply# 50   10/15/2008 at 02:32 (5,672 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

And I have the last version of the Whirlpool Electronic Control System. Everyone said that the electronic controls would give me problems, but my set has been steadily running since February of 1993 without any problems with the controls at all!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlcool's LINK


Post# 309365 , Reply# 51   10/15/2008 at 05:06 (5,672 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)        
Congratulations Sir

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SSS S-Stunning,S- Solid State, S- Salivating. What a Handsome Machine. Congratulaions. I remember seeing those in their time and most people said "Stay away from all those buttons". I hope you have nothing but pure enjoyment from that machine. Eddie

Post# 309386 , Reply# 52   10/15/2008 at 10:36 (5,672 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Bob - I have the dispenser. That was my first clue that the machine hadn't been used much - or, as it turned out, hadn't been used at all. When I looked at the bottom of the dispenser, it was shiny and new...

Post# 309430 , Reply# 53   10/15/2008 at 14:35 (5,671 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Believe it or not, this is the wash cycle - no suds!

Post# 309462 , Reply# 54   10/15/2008 at 18:53 (5,671 days old) by buffster ()        
Congrats Greg...

I know you must be thrilled to finally have that washer under your own roof. And, I'm so excited for you that it's NEW. An extra special surprise. Now... get back to that store and find out what else she has stashed away! You have my shopping list, now run.

Post# 309531 , Reply# 55   10/16/2008 at 06:06 (5,671 days old) by thor (Buenos Aires)        
Softener dispenser

Greg, my washer, which I purchased in 1980 and in essence was "identical" to yours, had a double timed dispenser for bleach and softner. The filling spout was divided into two halves, one for the bleach and the other for the softner. At the proper time during the main wash a stopper controlled by a solenoid pulled up and opened an orifice in the bleach container which then poured into the wash water, the same for the liquid softner during the rinse cycle. If you chose the second rinse option then the softener would be added during the second rinse, a feature which I really loved.
Emilio


Post# 309625 , Reply# 56   10/16/2008 at 16:20 (5,670 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

The Whirlpool electronic sets weren't very common. When we bought ours it was a "special order" item. But it only took three days to arrive from the warehouse in Dallas.
When the repair guy came out change out the drive coupler a few years ago he said that he had only heard about these electronic machines, but never actually seen one in person.
They are nice and look cool. Our neighbor calls it the "Star Trek Washing Machine".


Post# 309708 , Reply# 57   10/16/2008 at 21:16 (5,670 days old) by a440 ()        
That's the set!!!

Allen,
That is the set that I looked at in the 90's, but opted for the Kenmore set.
Wow! I did not know it was the early 90's. I thought it was later 90's.
Your set looks great. Very chic!
Brent



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