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Post# 46121   10/1/2004 at 11:34 (7,145 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        

Is there anyone interested in a 1972ish Kenmore 800 that is currently located in the Milwaukee, WI area. The appliance is in fairly good condition and works. It isn't the money, I just don't need it and don't want to see it go to the crusher. I hope someone can use/pick it up/have it shipped.. whatever. Let me know.




Post# 46129 , Reply# 1   10/1/2004 at 16:02 (7,144 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
If I could only afford the shipping

That's my dream machine. I wish I could have it shipped but I can't afford it.

Post# 46132 , Reply# 2   10/1/2004 at 17:40 (7,144 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Dream machine

Fly up, rent a pickup, drive back. Still probably cheaper than shipping. Or, maybe shipping isn't as expensive as you might think. Check around, you may be surprised.

Post# 46139 , Reply# 3   10/1/2004 at 19:11 (7,144 days old) by petebldg9 ()        

WOW! That's the EXACT Kenmore 800 my parents had for 16 years, beginning in 1971...down to the gold color. The tub was white, with a gold Super Roto-Swirl. This takes me back!

Pete


Post# 46143 , Reply# 4   10/1/2004 at 19:44 (7,144 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        
shipping

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Check tthis website.Might get it shipped cheap.

kennyGF


CLICK HERE TO GO TO goatfarmer's LINK


Post# 46146 , Reply# 5   10/1/2004 at 20:10 (7,144 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Agitator Cap.

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Doesn't this model have the agitator cap the said KENMORE across the top of it?

MRB


Post# 46148 , Reply# 6   10/1/2004 at 20:31 (7,144 days old) by petebldg9 ()        
Agitator Cap

Yes, that's the cap my parents had in their model. Also, the words "Super Roto-Swirl" are molded into the gold plastic in one spot near the edge of the agitator skirt.

Post# 46149 , Reply# 7   10/1/2004 at 20:42 (7,144 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
More pics of 800

I hope someone will adopt this washer. Perhaps there is a lonely 800 dryer out there missing its mate.

Post# 46150 , Reply# 8   10/1/2004 at 20:43 (7,144 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
more pics 800

pic

Post# 46151 , Reply# 9   10/1/2004 at 20:49 (7,144 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
and the last one of the inside

has triple dispensers and sudsaver. I don't don't know why but I always thought it was so cool to see the sudsaver work. The machine quietly agitating on slow speed with no water splashing, then the water level slowly and silently going down in the tub while the water started sloshing in the washer. Then that weird sound as it got air in the line when the water line was toward the bottom of the tub. Memories, I don't think anyone makes sudsaver models anymore. The last I saw was on a kenmore model in 1998.

Post# 46153 , Reply# 10   10/1/2004 at 21:20 (7,144 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Jason,

Come on, sell the Frigemore and take this beauty!!
And WOW, the 800's tub looks GREAT!


Post# 46166 , Reply# 11   10/2/2004 at 00:45 (7,144 days old) by eddy1210 (Burnaby BC Canada)        

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This is a very nice machine, one that I would love to have in my collection.
You can make it happen, Jason!


Post# 46196 , Reply# 12   10/2/2004 at 16:56 (7,143 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

Is there a way to make it not suds save? I don't have a laundry tub in my house to work as a suds saver.

Post# 46200 , Reply# 13   10/2/2004 at 19:59 (7,143 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)        

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Ok......., This is not suppose to happen!
I found the gas dryer by my job today in white, it is consider as a drop off. I will be bringing it home tonight. The exterior paint is in great condition and the kick plate is missing but overall the control panel is pristine!

I just don't know what to do?

Help....


Post# 46208 , Reply# 14   10/2/2004 at 22:23 (7,143 days old) by tcox6912 ()        
Just Do It!!!!

Jason, sometimes you just have to throw caution into the wind and make an impulsive decision. Shipping should run you less than $300, which is a small price to get your "dream machine". Go on, you know you want it, and its green, too. Jason, just do it!!!! Next wash-in is at your house! Todd

Post# 46209 , Reply# 15   10/2/2004 at 22:25 (7,143 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
sudsave

JasonL, don't you have a bathtub in your home? Come on, don't let this hold you back.

Actually when I started refurbishing machines, as a teenager in '82, I would get these belt-drive machines and so often they had sudsavers but they didn't sell as good. So as a general rule BD whirlies and kennies and even the rare Maytag would have the suds valve and wires removed. I would replace the 2 hoses that fed the "valve loop" with the direct feed hose used in the non-suds models.

This kenmore 800 is still anatomically correct. I think I will connect the machine sometime in the next week and take some pics of the water running through the detergent dispenser, maybe operate the sudsaver, make sure everything is still functioning. I would make a movie but I don't know how to upload that YET. Although, I could make a DVD. Any takers?



Post# 46211 , Reply# 16   10/2/2004 at 22:40 (7,143 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
green ??

I'm sorry, I'm sure your statement was made with good intentions but
tcox, are we blind, GREEN?
There is Sea Foam, Avacodo, Teal, there is NO "green".

This washer is what was originally Tawny Gold and then later Harvest Gold.

:-)


Post# 46217 , Reply# 17   10/3/2004 at 00:46 (7,143 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Jason, you've been signing and moaning all this time for your 800. And yes, I'm quivvering a bit too just looking at it. Boy get with it and get that machine. It's rare you will find one in THIS GOOD of shape!!! I HAVE SPOKEN!!!

Post# 46225 , Reply# 18   10/3/2004 at 09:08 (7,143 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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REALLY! Yuo have GOT to get his machine Jason! Just don't use the sudsaver, Robert can't with his Kenmore and it still works fine! PLEASE save it!

Post# 46232 , Reply# 19   10/3/2004 at 12:22 (7,143 days old) by tcox6912 ()        
Oh, my

Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later, now the eyesight has gone, too. Sorry, but it sure looked green on my screen, but upon further examination, I realized that I was wrong. I guess its time to get that stick and the seeing eye dog! Fortunately, I can still feel the knobs on the control panel! Todd

Post# 46233 , Reply# 20   10/3/2004 at 13:43 (7,143 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Come home, 800!

Ship it to me, man. I sent u an email so let's talk.

Thanks i70sn80s guy and EVERYONE on the club. It wouldn't have been possible without you guys.


Post# 46234 , Reply# 21   10/3/2004 at 14:02 (7,143 days old) by tcox6912 ()        
YEAH!

Yeah, Jason, you go boy! Another one for the LA team!!!

Post# 46239 , Reply# 22   10/3/2004 at 16:46 (7,142 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        

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A suds saver can be used with a 4 inch stand pipe. I built a drain system with a 4 inch pipe. I have the room for at least 4 suds saver washers

Post# 46241 , Reply# 23   10/3/2004 at 17:43 (7,142 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I spotted the almost matching dryer to this machine today.Matches everything but the color.It was avacado green.

It's in Frankfort Indiana if anyone's interested.

kennyGF


Post# 46245 , Reply# 24   10/3/2004 at 18:16 (7,142 days old) by westytoploader ()        

YAY!! An excellent companion to "The General"!!!!

Congratulations on getting your dream machine as well as the washer you grew up with!

--Austin


Post# 46248 , Reply# 25   10/3/2004 at 21:23 (7,142 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        
Big Find

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Jason, this is wonderful news, you found your dream machine. This couldn't be better news, one of the better finds this year!

Post# 46257 , Reply# 26   10/4/2004 at 07:27 (7,142 days old) by agiflow-action ()        
congrats jason

Jason,...i am happy for you man.Congrats on your dream machine.
You have waited quite a while and now the dream finally comes true.Jason..PLEASE get a video sometime of the machine in action,would really love to see more KM/WP vids of these classics.

God Bless
Pat


Post# 46259 , Reply# 27   10/4/2004 at 08:19 (7,142 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

Thanks everyone. I can't wait to be able to see and hear the old belt-drive kenmore again. I've waited 21 years to get my Kenmore 800 back and the time finally has come.

There will be a DVD production of the machine, including the infamous perm press cooldown/agitation that got me in trouble so long ago.


Post# 46299 , Reply# 28   10/4/2004 at 20:53 (7,141 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Congrats Jasonl, I know how badly you want the 800. I am so happy for you. Arthur.

Post# 46326 , Reply# 29   10/5/2004 at 11:15 (7,141 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Congratulations Jason, I'm so happy for you! Finally you get your dream machine. Ofcourse we want a full report!!!

Louis


Post# 46339 , Reply# 30   10/5/2004 at 16:38 (7,140 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
YYYYEEEESSSS!

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Congrats! I am so happy for you! And I can't wait for that DVD!Truly a dream come true!

Post# 46340 , Reply# 31   10/5/2004 at 16:40 (7,140 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Excellent, Jason - you finally will have your machine! Where will you install it?

Post# 46345 , Reply# 32   10/5/2004 at 18:01 (7,140 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Installation

I'm gonna put it where the lil Lady is sitting right now and move Lady somewhere else, she is portable and can hookup anywhere. The 800 is not. I'll split off the water mains and swap the drain hose when I want to use the 800 or the Frigemore

Post# 46359 , Reply# 33   10/5/2004 at 21:30 (7,140 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
more pics

I had fun today. Um, JasonL, I just like that detergent dispenser so much, I've decided to keep the 800. No, no, no, just joking. Its your baby, but the machines with those dispensers like this 800 or the recent find,the Lady K's, with their triple dispensers, oh and of yes those with sudsavers are so cool.

ewW, drain hose swapping. Ok if your used to it but, um, well take it from someone who has overlooked that a few times and well lets say I had a mess to clean up.



Post# 46361 , Reply# 34   10/5/2004 at 21:39 (7,140 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
close-up of the awesome dispensers

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Post# 46362 , Reply# 35   10/5/2004 at 21:40 (7,140 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
that is dispenser(singular)

pic

Post# 46364 , Reply# 36   10/5/2004 at 22:02 (7,140 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
AWESOME!

That's exactly what I remember. I'm still working on the shipping part. I'm gonna call both of those places again tomorrow to see what I can do

Needs new drain hose? OK, I'll put that on this list.

How does the rest of it work?


Post# 46365 , Reply# 37   10/5/2004 at 22:03 (7,140 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
First pics of working 800

This is the first pics of a running 800 ever in this club. Of course there will be lots more and a DVD when I'm done.

WOOHOO!


Post# 46366 , Reply# 38   10/5/2004 at 22:06 (7,140 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
1971

This must be a later model 800 because there's a pushbutton lid switch instead of the mercury switch. It's gonna get the surgery anyway.

Post# 46371 , Reply# 39   10/5/2004 at 23:08 (7,140 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
Oh the report, the report, how could I forget

Well I was going to send you a personal Email but I guess this will do as well. And by the way when I said drainhose "accident" i wasn't referring to today, the 800 was good and didn't cause any accidents on the floor (intentionally anyway).
He/She/It has sat in my parents basement now for 2 years, where it was before that I don't know. I picked it up at Salvation Army Store in West Allis Wisconsin, (a manufacturing/hard working German type community). Anyway, mechanically it seems to function well. I think it needs a belt, though. It does have a problem with, your favorite prob, the "wigwag", which is not always engaging during the agitation part of the cycle. Could be the solenoid, the timer, or a broken wire. Should be easy to fix. When I was able to get it to agitate it sounded acted fine.
When I moved the washer I did not notice any oil on the floor.
The timer seems to advance fine.
The always important dispenser works as you can see in the pics. Some times the solenoid gets stuck over time. not here though. The suds valve actually still works. the water level switch seems to work.
The lint filter seems to work fine, it being separate from the tub in a white plastic,... whatever, near the bottom of the machine.
The bad news: it has a tub leak which is actually dripping on the wigwag (though not on the solenoid not functioning). This could be a loose tub screw, a leak from the column, or a rust hole.
And finally what to me seems like the biggest issue, but also one of the easiest to remedy(and this probly happened because it is 30 + years old and has been in a typical milwaukee basement with dampness and this leak) it has a rusty inner cabinet. Not rusted through though. Not that bad, I mean I have seen worse. Everything is structurally fine. most of the rust is on the inside cabinet. I would say if you could find another BD Machine in Harvest Gold (or the color of your choice really) you could easily enough slide the guts from this machine out and rehang it by its 3 suspension bars in the new less rusted body.
The top is porcelin(spelled right?) and has a few chips in front. That is easy enough.
The tub seems fine, no apparent chips, scratches, or hard water/iron staining.
The tub seems to brake as it should when you lift the lid.
The light works...., it still has its original cord and hoses except the suds hose, I switched out so your getting a Maytag suds hose, I figured you would be "changing" the machine anyway and wouldn't need the suds hose. I have a Maytag in Avacodo from like the late 60s early 70s with suds and I just like it, but not those stiff maytag hoses. Whats with that, anyway.
So anyway, babble, babble, babble. Maybe I could send her UPS. what do you think.


Post# 46395 , Reply# 40   10/6/2004 at 10:53 (7,140 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)        

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I'm sorry to say that I've passed up bringing that dryer home. I should of but my heart has grown cold because I will not run a gas line to him..... Very expensive to do in an apartment building basement so my love for washes will take president.


Post# 46397 , Reply# 41   10/6/2004 at 12:25 (7,140 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

C&F so far has offered a sky high figure for transport. Not good. I hope Vintage Transport can be better. Gonna find out today.

Post# 46400 , Reply# 42   10/6/2004 at 12:53 (7,140 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
UPS alot better

Wow UPS alot more reasonable $392.12, but I will have to pack the washer. I will do it for you, just knowing the machine is going to a good home is what is important


Post# 46404 , Reply# 43   10/6/2004 at 15:18 (7,139 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I've checked with Vintage Transport before, far and away the highest quote I've ever been given. They are owned by a design service and specialize in "White-Glove" services when picking up, packing and shipping. Of course you don't want your machine dragged across the country by an old mule, but "White-Glove" delivery is a little much...

C&F is a little high, but I don't know of anyone having major damage or problems with their services.


Post# 46410 , Reply# 44   10/6/2004 at 16:24 (7,139 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

Ups seems the "cheapest". Man this is going to kill me. Lemme see if I can budget that. I was thinking like $250-$300 range.

This is looking painful now folks.


Post# 46411 , Reply# 45   10/6/2004 at 16:26 (7,139 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Any other options for shipping?

Are they ANY other options to try and get it a little less expensive?

Post# 46415 , Reply# 46   10/6/2004 at 17:04 (7,139 days old) by fixerman ()        

Take a weekend and pick it up yourself.
Start: New Orleans, Louisiana, United States End: Madison, Wisconsin, United States Total Distance: 1040.2 Miles Estimated Total Time: 14 hours, 50 minutes


Post# 46417 , Reply# 47   10/6/2004 at 18:07 (7,139 days old) by retro_guy ()        

Jason -

Try R & L Carriers (link below). I've used them before, and if 70s/80s guy will crate the washer for you they might be pretty reasonable.

It depends if they service both of your cities.



CLICK HERE TO GO TO retro_guy's LINK


Post# 46419 , Reply# 48   10/6/2004 at 18:40 (7,139 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
R&L

They have an online rate quote. It's asking for "class" and "weight". I'm not sure what the "class" would be but if I set both to 250 and 250lbs it quotes my $482.

Anyone have any idea? Thanks.


Post# 46422 , Reply# 49   10/6/2004 at 19:14 (7,139 days old) by retro_guy ()        

Class makes a big difference in determining the rate - you might want to try calling the 800 number listed on the site.. I paid less than $200 to ship a washer last year.

Good luck!


Post# 46423 , Reply# 50   10/6/2004 at 19:28 (7,139 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Thanks

I'll give'em a call tomorrow morning. Might turn out good. If they can slide the washer into a big 18wheeler full of stuff to NO then it shouldn't cost too much.

Post# 46436 , Reply# 51   10/6/2004 at 22:54 (7,139 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Wow Jason. That detergent dispenser. Now I"m homesick. Yup, ours had a mercury lid switch too.

Post# 46438 , Reply# 52   10/6/2004 at 23:26 (7,139 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        

It's an awesome machine. I'll get it running no prob. I really hope these R&L people can give me a break on price. Those other quotes are overbudget for me.

Pray.


Post# 46453 , Reply# 53   10/7/2004 at 09:26 (7,139 days old) by frontaloadotmy (the cool gay realm)        
shipping alternative

have you checked any rail possibilities? In 1989 on a trip
from SF to Toledo amtrak did a suitcase sized tabletop phono
for a reasonable rate. (actually it was the return trip to
SF) It took a week or so longer. Tho I have bookmarked some of the freight sites mentioned in the club I have never investigated them, I am assuming they are all "truck"


Post# 46456 , Reply# 54   10/7/2004 at 10:11 (7,139 days old) by i70sn80sguy ()        
Final Call for 800

The washer has to be claimed by Tuesday Oct. 12th, 2004.
It's gone after that.


Post# 46565 , Reply# 55   10/9/2004 at 06:01 (7,137 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
mercury lid switch

You mean some KM machines had mercury lid switches? I've NEVER seen a mercury lid switch in a KM, they have always been the pushbutton type.

Post# 46568 , Reply# 56   10/9/2004 at 06:55 (7,137 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Oh yes we had one

My mom's Kenmore 800 had a merc lid switch. I was able to opent the lid almost halfway before the switch kicked in and stopped the spin. I think my mom's 800 was probably a year or two old than our 800 here.

Post# 46579 , Reply# 57   10/9/2004 at 12:31 (7,137 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
ROAD TRIP!

Steve and I have come up with a better plan. I'm going to trade Lil' Lady for the Kenmore 800 so he's going to meet me halfway in Missouri. No shipping fees, no worrying about bad handling by trucking companies. Only price will be gas and food. Woohoo!

My dream is coming true!


Post# 46583 , Reply# 58   10/9/2004 at 13:04 (7,137 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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My grandmother's 1970-ish Kenmore 70 and my aunt's 1968-ish Kenmore 800 both had mercury lid switches. Another aunt's older Kenmore 70 (or 60?) had a toggle lid switch at the center rear.

Post# 46585 , Reply# 59   10/9/2004 at 13:28 (7,137 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
800 trip

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hooray you guys did it

keep us informed

this is the washers I would see at the Kokomo sears


Post# 46590 , Reply# 60   10/9/2004 at 15:07 (7,136 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Our 800

So I'm guessing maybe the 800 I grew up with was a little older but it was the same control panel and detergent dispenser.

Well, hopefully soon, the beautiful sound of Kenmore will fill the laundry room once again.

Now to find the dryer.



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