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NORGE 20 Pound Washer found in Austin!!!
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Post# 46352   10/5/2004 at 20:43 (7,129 days old) by westytoploader ()        

WOW! I checked the Austin, TX Craigslist, and one of the first ads I spotted was "Norge 20 pound washer, works fine, $40." So I emailed the seller and said I would take it. Can't believe I actually found one of these guys; judging by previous posts and appliance-dealer comments these washers are built like tanks. They also "clunk" on the spin brake, and that large 4-vaned agitator must be something! I don't remember any "plastic" Norges either so I'm pretty squared away on appearance...

I'm hoping it has the Burpalator as well, which it probably will. Asked for pictures and will post them ASAP.

There's also a mid-80's Filter-Flo set in good exterior condition (waiting on interior pictures) as well if anyone's interested. Washer works great; dryer's a little slow according to the seller so it might need to be cleaned of lint.

--Austin


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Post# 46356 , Reply# 1   10/5/2004 at 21:24 (7,129 days old) by Brent-Aucoin ()        
Sounds cool Austin!

Keep us posted.
I think that you would have lot's of fun with that machine.
I found one once, but the owner would not sell because it was his grandmothers. He did let me do a load of towels with him. I must say it was a very fun time as far as sounds go.
Keep us posted.
You are finding some good stuff.
Brent


Post# 46369 , Reply# 2   10/5/2004 at 22:34 (7,129 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i)        
Burp a Lator

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That's great; what a find! I recently added a 1976 Wards Signature (manufactured by Norge) 20 lb washer to my collection. You'll love all the sounds this machine makes; it's quite noisy but lots of fun to watch. Please post pix if you can!



Post# 46381 , Reply# 3   10/6/2004 at 05:12 (7,129 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
Norge 20 pound washer SQ

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"Knock on any Norge--knock,knock,knock,knock--knock on any Norge--knock,knock,knock,knock--.Hear the sound of silent quality ,knock on any Norge--knock,knock,knock,knock--.Years from now you'll be glad it's a Norge!"

Post# 46388 , Reply# 4   10/6/2004 at 08:36 (7,129 days old) by Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)        

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That's going to be a fun machine to play with Austin, is this your first experience with a vintage Norge made machine?

Post# 46391 , Reply# 5   10/6/2004 at 09:22 (7,129 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

OMG! I remember that tv commercial for Norge!! Maybe in the 70's?

Post# 46393 , Reply# 6   10/6/2004 at 09:24 (7,129 days old) by agiflow-action ()        

Austin...congratulations!! You are gonna love that noisy beast.
BTW is it a Fedders Norge? Yes these machines are very well built,I miss the one we had,powerful agitation and low water level is actually low on these machines,as opposed to something from the WP family of machines. Enjoy!!!

Pat


Post# 46394 , Reply# 7   10/6/2004 at 10:48 (7,129 days old) by CleanteamofNY ((Monroe, New York)        

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Coldspot66,

It was a commercial for Timex.
It takes a licking and keep on ticking!

Go Norge!
Have a great time Austin.....


Post# 46406 , Reply# 8   10/6/2004 at 15:34 (7,128 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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I'd forgotten about the Timex commercial - I remember how thrilled I was the first time I saw it!

Post# 46407 , Reply# 9   10/6/2004 at 16:07 (7,128 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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Could be a Fedders or a Borg-Warner.

Post# 46412 , Reply# 10   10/6/2004 at 16:35 (7,128 days old) by westytoploader ()        

Well, the person sent the pictures and the machine is a little newer than I expected (mid-80's), but it is the old design which is important, because sometime in the late 80's--early 1990's (according to Consumer Reports) Magic Chef machines that carried the Norge design switched to the "plastic design" and lost the "clunking" tub brake. Not sure if Norge washers existed after the introduction of this or not; if someone has any more details let me know.

The tub on this machine doesn't appear to be plastic (a little shiny; plastic on a washer this old would be dull), and the new "Tragic Chef" design had a different style tub ring and bleach dispenser cup, so we should be in good shape. However, if this machine is the old design and I bring it home I'm ordering a Burpalator from RepairClinic and putting it in! As far as the condition goes, it does have a few scratches on the outside and will need a cleaning, but overall it looks like it was pretty well taken care of for a Texas machine.

Here are the pictures...

--Austin


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Post# 46420 , Reply# 11   10/6/2004 at 18:43 (7,128 days old) by goatfarmer (South Bend, home of Champions)        

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I dunno,Austin,that looks like a Magic Chef.... Better check it out.

kennyGF


Post# 46424 , Reply# 12   10/6/2004 at 19:41 (7,128 days old) by westytoploader ()        

But the Tragic Chefs have visible holes in the bottom of the basket in a different pattern; this one doesn't; the holes appear to be concealed under the agitator like the old Wards models.

Look at this picture of a Tragic Chef's wonderful plastic tub and see what I mean. Check out the tub guard and bleach cup as well; minor differences between this and the Norge.

When I check it out this weekend or the weekend after that I'll plug it in and listen for the "clunk..." If not, forget it!

--Austin



Post# 46425 , Reply# 13   10/6/2004 at 20:21 (7,128 days old) by coldspot66 (Plymouth, Mass)        

Austin,

It DOES look like the 1st changover to Magic chef. The first machines did have painted metal tubs, but the clunking brake was gone by then. Those early models did have brake problems where they would not release the brake to spin. Although you may be able to change to a burpilator as long as the drive block is the same.


Post# 46430 , Reply# 14   10/6/2004 at 21:09 (7,128 days old) by westytoploader ()        

If you're referring to the second picture I posted is the inside of a plastic Magic Chef, not the Norge I'm looking at (although the Norge does have a painted metal tub)

But if it is in fact one of the first models of the "new" Magic Chef/Admiral/Norge designs, then I guess it's time to hit the shops...I was hoping for a Norge Signature or older model but I guess I need to visit a few places. :(

I seem to have the least luck on washers this year!!! Too many "dud finds"...


Post# 46432 , Reply# 15   10/6/2004 at 22:03 (7,128 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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That Norge is a plastic tub model. BTW, when did the lid go from opening left to back?

Post# 46433 , Reply# 16   10/6/2004 at 22:04 (7,128 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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Sorry, meant to say it LOOKS like a plastic tub model.

Post# 46435 , Reply# 17   10/6/2004 at 22:36 (7,128 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Austin, that really doesn't look like a Norge Signature in its true form. Looks more like a Tragic Chef/Maytag breed.

Chuck, I remember that Norge slogan and commercial. I do not remember if it was in use while we still had our 1964 Norge, or right after it bit the dust in 1970-71. but I do remember thinking, yeah right!!! If ya hit it too hard, it's gonna fall apart.


Post# 46439 , Reply# 18   10/6/2004 at 23:30 (7,128 days old) by geoff (Cape Coral, FL)        

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Austin,

I'm terribly sorry to sink your battleship so-to-speak, but this is a Magic Chef machine. We have a Magic Chef at the Hospital I work at. I actually had to use it last week to wash my Pharmacy jackets and inspected it. The hospital machine and your machine share the same bleach dispenser, knobs, agitator and basket. The hospitals machine has a porcelain on steel wash basket, not plastic. Same pattern and everything. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but yours is most likely a "Tragic Chef" design. :(


Post# 46474 , Reply# 19   10/7/2004 at 21:12 (7,127 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
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Guys,just to be clear.Magic Chef NEVER made a washing machine.It was and always will be a Norge.Both were bought by Fedders in the 70's then Fedders was bought by Maytag in the 80's.The only appliance Magic Chef ever made was a line of gas ranges.All other appliances with their lable on them were subsidised.The electric ranges were Hardwick,the dishwashers were DM,the refrigerators were Admiral,the 24 inch wide compact front loading washers and dryers were made first by Philco of Italy then later on by Zanussi.

Post# 46476 , Reply# 20   10/7/2004 at 21:51 (7,127 days old) by fixerman ()        

Laundromat is right. The Magic Chef and others were Norge design. The washer in question is definetly a Norge design washer. These machines are really noisy because of the tinny cheapened design. Sometime in the early eighties the machines were cheapened and everything was built lightweight and cheap but the basic mechanism was still Norge.

Post# 46477 , Reply# 21   10/7/2004 at 21:55 (7,127 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Laundromat interesting history

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That line of history gives me an idea, we should put together the lineages of all the companies like a geneaology so we could easily spot who made what machine on which platform at what time. It could be a club reference work.




Post# 46480 , Reply# 22   10/7/2004 at 22:47 (7,127 days old) by westytoploader ()        

I asked the seller if the brake "clunks" or not (but didn't put it in a way that the answer was obvious...Yeah, sure it clunks! LOL ;-) ;-)) and I'm still waiting on a response.

I agree Jon; a timeline would be a great idea so people would know more about what they're getting their hands onto instead of making a mistake like I did...and thinking it was something good. :(

Oh well...better hit the shops to find a TRUE vintage Norge!

--Austin


Post# 46490 , Reply# 23   10/8/2004 at 07:05 (7,127 days old) by jasonl (Cookeville, TN)        
Magic Chef

My friend had one of these branded as Magic Chef. I remember seeing how huge the tub was. Of course, rust ate through it and the trans died. Otherwise was an ok machine to watch.

Post# 46492 , Reply# 24   10/8/2004 at 07:55 (7,127 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

These machines were sold here in Aus badged as a Norge. When Maytag took over control of Hoover Aus, the Hoover branded machines were drastically cheapened, and the more expensive end of the market was covered by US import Admiral and Norge washers, with Maytag as TOL. The Norges proved to be junk in my opinion - I remember one lady who had one, paid a fortune for it as she had no end of children and need a reliable machine, it shredded clothes, got off balance constantly and was unbelievably loud when washing, as the puny rubber motor mounts all wore through after a few months so it was all metal-to-metal vibration. When it was only three or four years old it seized up completely and was junked. I see them at the recyclers occasionally, always looking completely clapped out.

I'd run a mile.

Chris.


Post# 46564 , Reply# 25   10/9/2004 at 05:46 (7,126 days old) by kenmore1978 ()        
Norge/ Wards Signature

I wonder if the situation at Montgomery Wards was the same as at Sears. WP sold more machines as Kenmores than Whirlpools, anybody think Norge sold more washers as Signatures than as Norge? Wards had the same "easy credit" (actually probably even easier) as Sears and I'm sure that might have been a factor.

Post# 46566 , Reply# 26   10/9/2004 at 06:07 (7,126 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        
signature/norge

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Maybe back in the 60's and early 70's it was but remember,White Westinghouse was also making almost half of the Signature washers and dryers including their stackables and 24 inch top loading stacks by the mid 70's untill they folded.Frigidaire and Admiral made their refrigerators,their dishwashers and disposers from the late 60's to the late 70's were made by Frigidaire,and their gas and electric ranges were made by Tappan.I remember when I lived in Baltimore there was a huge MW on Monroe Street on the west side and the huge lighted sign at night would flash using all the letters in the name---"Go Ward---Montgomery Ward".


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