Thread Number: 25331
The monster in the Kitchen(aid) hungers... |
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Post# 390561   11/3/2009 at 21:24 (5,287 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 390563 , Reply# 1   11/3/2009 at 21:30 (5,287 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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LOL! Sorry, I couldn't resist. A big thank you to Stevet for the part number and the rest of you for the Oohhss and Aaahhss. Not a bad job after all. Of course, there's always that hair up on the back of your neck moment when you run the first cycle... Not a drop. With the sound of MOVING water that promises death to all thinks not clean. I love the water heating! It sounds like a gigantic coffee pot perking away. Here we are in our polished, detailed, shiney glory. |
Post# 390565 , Reply# 2   11/3/2009 at 21:35 (5,287 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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Now the great debate begins! Do I move my faithful Maytag MDB9150AWB with it's stainless inside and energy star auto clean cycle (plus it's quiet!) out and put this water using, not so quiet powerhouse in? The Maytag dries almost TOO well and this one may not do as well... Hmmmm... Input from the peanut gallery? RCD |
Post# 390569 , Reply# 4   11/3/2009 at 22:26 (5,286 days old) by wigwag (San Diego)   |   | |
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Course thats just my opinion =) |
Post# 390570 , Reply# 5   11/3/2009 at 22:38 (5,286 days old) by qsd-dan (West)   |   | |
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Post# 390604 , Reply# 6   11/4/2009 at 03:49 (5,286 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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I owned that same model. I bought it in 1981. The machine cleans like as we call it "Hurricane in a Box". Very Powerful. My only issue was the drying. It's OK. I got very good drying if you use the Heavy Wash. Once I turned up my Water Heater to 160 to see how the machine would react. It just flew through the Water Heating Periods. Soak and Scrub : Prewash with intermitten heating,then Prewash (with heating) again, Wash, Rinse, Main Wash, Rinse, Rinse (with heating) and Dry. Heavy Wash : Real Fast Prewash, Prewash with heating, Wash, Rinse, Main Wash, Rinse,Rinse(with heating) and Dry. Normal Wash : Prewash with heating, Wash, Rinse, Main Wash, Rinse, Rinse (with heating) Dry. Fast Wash : Main Wash, Rinse, Rinse, Rapid Advance to Off. Rinse and Hold : One Rinse, Rapid Advance to Off. Cancel Drain : Drains and Rapid Advance to Off. Sorry, Got caught up in the Cycle Sequence. What I was going to say before all that, I found the Best Drying was to use Soak and Scrub, or Heavy Wash. If you can really Pre Heat the Wash Chamber well, You have a decent shot at Drying. Now in 1981, we didn't have "Glad" plastic containers which for the most part are difficult to dry. Every so often (maybe 2 weeks) I use to lift off the Hydro Sweep and pull the filter. When they changed the design to that Black Plastic topped filter, I found that there would be a light scummy build up or film on the underside of the filter. It would not smell or mold, but I knew it was there, so I stayed on top of it. I really think you'll enjoy this machine. Eddie |
Post# 390637 , Reply# 7   11/4/2009 at 08:02 (5,286 days old) by re563 (Fort Worth, Texas)   |   | |
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Post# 390640 , Reply# 8   11/4/2009 at 08:16 (5,286 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Yes. On Soak and Scrub, That will be your detergent for the intermitten Wash and Water Heat periods on the first cycle. On Heavy Wash, You can fill that area as well, for a Double Blast of Detergent. Heavy Wash is like a condensed version of Soak and Scrub in a way. As the machine fills and does the first pre Rinse everything gets a blast of detergent. When the machine moves to the first Prewash, The motor does not run during that period. It just fills and heats the water. So the detergent does it's job during the heating portion as there is some steam accumulating while the water heats. |
Post# 390656 , Reply# 9   11/4/2009 at 09:49 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Till the thread got developed, was gonna ask, don't those KA babies have fan drying? My friend's ancient KA Hobart portable has a fan, and the dishes come out dry, but since I have no other experience with fan drying, maybe it IS weak and I just wouldn't know. Did KA change their fans? Love the JACK-O-LANTERN first pic and Eddie's cycle sequences--that stuff just makes my day. Thank You, Gentlemen. Mike Hey, while I think of it, this kitchen has a 25 year-old built-in Tappan, spotless cleaning, adequate dying, except Gladware, of course :-> and no fan, but it would be cool to have one. The point, WHO MADE TAPPAN? Anybody know? Thank You! |
Post# 390659 , Reply# 10   11/4/2009 at 10:04 (5,286 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod)   |   | |
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Yes, all KAs have forced air drying. The KDS 19 as far as I know was the only one utilized the heat from the dishes and the wash chamber to dry the contents. If you notice in the Wash Chamber back right cornor, the Air Vent for the forced air system is Plastic. All other KAs are Stainless to withstand the Heat. The Dry fan would pulse on and off intermittenly to dry the dishes. All the other models had a heated forced air dry and some later models you had the option to turn the heat off. I don't know who made Tappen. I remember they had a Dishwasher that was called the Revera Jet. B+D maybe ??? |
Post# 390668 , Reply# 11   11/4/2009 at 10:35 (5,286 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 390684 , Reply# 13   11/4/2009 at 11:35 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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This house, remodeled in the early to mid 80's has the Jenn Air built-in electric stove and grill like yours. It'll cook anything. Eddie & Glenn, I think I've got it. The model in question has no electric coil- heated dry, but an intermittent fanning of the dishes. With all that power, maybe they figured, hey, who needs more heat.? Intriguing that it's the only model made that way. The other models have heated dry AND fan, some models allowing a no heat selection. Mine has no fan, but heat or no heat. Now i want a fan real bad ;'D. Thank You |
Post# 390688 , Reply# 14   11/4/2009 at 11:45 (5,286 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 390691 , Reply# 15   11/4/2009 at 11:57 (5,286 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.)   |   | |
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Post# 390693 , Reply# 16   11/4/2009 at 12:07 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 390694 , Reply# 17   11/4/2009 at 12:12 (5,286 days old) by jamiel (Detroit, Michigan and Palm Springs, CA)   |   | |
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Post# 390732 , Reply# 18   11/4/2009 at 13:34 (5,286 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)   |   | |
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Post# 390827 , Reply# 19   11/4/2009 at 19:30 (5,286 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Seeing the lights brings back so many memories. But as I remember the 1st and last rinse always heated to 150. And like I said in another post if you used the jetdry the drying was good. This machine was made way ahead of it's time. It would have even been better with a stainless interior and if it were quiter. The cleaning power was definatly outragous especially with the constant water heating. Peter |
Post# 390850 , Reply# 20   11/4/2009 at 20:47 (5,286 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)   |   | |
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LOL!!! Damn, that just fits! When the KDS19 is washing, I can't think of a better description... Yeah, this one pulses the fan motor for most of the cycle then just leaves it on during the last part of the drying cycle. When it's water heating, you can hear it alomost boil the water and then the whole dishwasher heats up from the temp. I imagine plastics would be a problem but china, etc. I'll bet it'll do ok... RCD |