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Post# 73014   7/10/2005 at 15:48 (6,864 days old) by jamman_98 (Columbia, SC)        

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I found this just surfing the net. Looks like an older set of GE's the person is using.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO jamman_98's LINK





Post# 73039 , Reply# 1   7/10/2005 at 20:37 (6,864 days old) by gmpayne (INDIANAPOLIS, IN)        
SPINDRIER

LOVE 2 FIND ON OF THESE

Post# 73044 , Reply# 2   7/10/2005 at 21:43 (6,864 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Post# 73050 , Reply# 3   7/10/2005 at 23:06 (6,864 days old) by Whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Noise

If our Front Loaders sound like jet engines on a 1200-1600 RPM spin cycle, what must this sound like at 3,300 RPM? I know the testimonial states that it's quiet, but I'd have to see/hear it to believe it.
That price! You can buy a new dryer for that!


Post# 73093 , Reply# 4   7/11/2005 at 09:26 (6,863 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

OMG OMG OMG!!!

Early 80s AEG washer and dryer on the homepage of Spin-X!! My Auntie had a washer just like that!! :-D.

Whirlcool,

I saw a spin dryer operating when I was younger, and from what I remember all it made was a soft whirr. So not too noisy as far as I can remember, but then I am trying to cast my mind back to when I was 5 or 6 years old :-).

Take care,

Jon


Post# 73095 , Reply# 5   7/11/2005 at 09:41 (6,863 days old) by kirk280980 ()        

Hi all -

Used a spin dryer last year while staying at a campsite, and to reiterate what Jon said they are usually extremely quiet, in fact I would say almost silent. Also, unlike washers they are designed to be tightly packed, giving little opportunity for the load to whip across to one side of the drum upon startup, and once they hit full speed there should be little, if any, vibration.

On the rare occasion when a load does become unbalanced, it will be apparent as soon as you start the spin dryer up; it will begin to rock somewhat. If this happens, simply redistribute the load, packing it down as firmly as possible, and restart the spin.

Despite being such simple devices I think spin dryers are a lot of fun - it can be interesting to see how much water comes out of a load after it has already been spun in the washer, and feeling how dry the clothes come out has a certain element of "way cool" to it!


Post# 73096 , Reply# 6   7/11/2005 at 09:53 (6,863 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Well, Maybe...

If they are quiet they may be a useful item. And I think it would be lots of fun to see how much water comes out of the clothes as stated earlier. But I'd have a problem with that price!
Maybe I'm just a cheapskate!


Post# 73116 , Reply# 7   7/11/2005 at 12:11 (6,863 days old) by kirk280980 ()        

Whirlcool,

I don't think you're being a cheapskate - in the US, you guys are being well and truly gouged on the selling price of the Spin X, and I wouldn't buy one myself at that price. Somebody along the line is taking advantage of the fact that spin dryers are an unusual product in America, and is charging for them accordingly.

Here in the UK spin dryers typically sell for £90-£120, with models at the higher end of this price scale usually having a drain pump rather than a gravity outlet; IMHO these are much more realistic prices. Really they're little more than two metal cans and a motor, how expensive can they be to make?


Post# 73133 , Reply# 8   7/11/2005 at 16:33 (6,863 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Gary....

A acouple fo us ordered a cheper version of the spon-x with plastic outer case. Sorry can't find the thread.

They ran out of stcok and I never got mine, to date...


Post# 73134 , Reply# 9   7/11/2005 at 16:43 (6,863 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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HA.

The universe is scarily intertwined. Not two minutes after posting this I found a message in my other e-mail box that the re-stock is in..do I still want it?



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Post# 73135 , Reply# 10   7/11/2005 at 16:46 (6,863 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Dear Steve,

Thank you for your order. When you originally ordered a spin dryer from us,
we were out of stock at the time. The spin dryers are now in stock. Please
let us know if you wish to proceed with your order.

Customer Service
The Laundry Alternative, Inc.
www.laundry-alternative.com...
Tel. 888.813.9559


Post# 73137 , Reply# 11   7/11/2005 at 17:15 (6,863 days old) by Bearpeter ()        
Noisy?.... No.

Believe me, i have had a few of these when I was younger... They are as quiet as a mouse.

Post# 73151 , Reply# 12   7/11/2005 at 17:52 (6,863 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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My Hoover TT extractor isn't much more noiser than the Miele at spinning. Well the motor can be, a tad, but not by much.

As the previous posted stated, there really isn't that much vibration once the unit hits speed. Starting up and powering down if the load is heavy an or unbalanced things can get a bit shakey, but otherwise if properly loaded things are fine. Honestly the extractor on the Hoover is more use to me than the washer tub at times. The extractor easily removes 1/2 to one cup of water from laundry spun from 800 to 1200 in the front loader. Towels come out quite dry (more so if warm water is used, don't ask me why), if extracted for say three minutes.

Would LOVE to find one of those GE spinners! If one ever turns up on fleaBay, am here to tell you guys am NOT going to share! *LOL*


Launderess


Post# 73286 , Reply# 13   7/12/2005 at 10:29 (6,862 days old) by gmpayne (INDIANAPOLIS, IN)        
SPIN X

Thanks Steve your such a sweeth heart!!!!!

Post# 73305 , Reply# 14   7/12/2005 at 12:38 (6,862 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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HA.That is one version of the gossip. LOL LOL LOL LOL

You are very welcome


Post# 74435 , Reply# 15   7/21/2005 at 13:48 (6,853 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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My new spinner is on the way....
My new spinner is on the way....

Can't wait.
Can't wait.

Never had one before....


I ALWAYS look forward to seeing my UPS man!

Do you have a package for me? Where do I sign for it?

Worse than a diabetic kid in a candy store.


Post# 74715 , Reply# 16   7/22/2005 at 23:10 (6,852 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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ITTTTTSSSSS HHHHHHHHEEEEEEERRRRRREEEEE


and it's unwrapped and installed and ready to do the first load out of my '91+/- GE T/L that cant spin for S_ _ T.

Yes I was out of town when it arrived, but I tore it open when I arrived an hour ago before I tore my work clothes off!!!!


ah the washer brake just engaged....let me load this sucker up...

I'll be back!


well....pics to follow ASAP


Post# 74724 , Reply# 17   7/23/2005 at 01:25 (6,852 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Here is the skinny:


110v
50 to 60hz
160 watts
2,800 RPM

looks like a mini T/L washer

16 inches wide
16 inches deep
36 total height


4 inch legs
28 inch body height
4 inch backsplach/ contol center
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36 height

tub: plastic 14" deep by 9" in diameter


Post# 74741 , Reply# 18   7/23/2005 at 07:58 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
and now for the pics

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hopefully a picture IS worth a thousand words :-)

Post# 74742 , Reply# 19   7/23/2005 at 07:59 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Markings on box: close-up

Post# 74743 , Reply# 20   7/23/2005 at 08:03 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I look like a mini top loader.

Here I sit next to the GE dryer.

Above me is the house's main sewer line, and below is the steam heating system's gravity condensate return.

"Tumble" spin dryer.... HMMMMMMM not quite.


Post# 74744 , Reply# 21   7/23/2005 at 08:09 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Controls and Lid

(packi..ng material still under lid.)

Notice stub on left hand side (in control panel) where one can clamp a hose for a spray rinse.


Notice that there is no name-brand--

unless it is "Boss" as shown on the lid. The lid also says POLYCARBONATE G E COMPANY U.S.A.

Hmmmm is this referring to the lid or the rest fo the plastics too..


Post# 74745 , Reply# 22   7/23/2005 at 08:10 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Turn around and let me see the flip side....


Included piping elbow not yet installed on water discharge pipe.


Post# 74746 , Reply# 23   7/23/2005 at 08:13 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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operating instructions-

(sorry bad pic)

-there was no manual or papers included of any kind.

Not even a yard (meter) of fill hose....


Post# 74747 , Reply# 24   7/23/2005 at 08:17 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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tub- plastique

Blue is the fill flume.
lid switch visible- breaks circuit.

*SIGH* "Power" indicator light stays on when lid is shut. Since I think I prefer to have it closed when not in use I might have to add .... LOL, a toggleswitch...LOL.

The plastic hinge for the lid is visible.

Lifting the lid engages a mechanical friction brake, and stops power to motor and indicator light.



Post# 74748 , Reply# 25   7/23/2005 at 08:22 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Spinner's top mat.

9 inches in diameter. (That's over 22cm)
(As a reference point- the large element on a US electric stove is normally 8 inches.)

Fits just under lip in tub.


Post# 74750 , Reply# 26   7/23/2005 at 08:33 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I had to break the rather samll to average sized GE T/L-ers wash into three spin cycles.


It was not happy with all the towels at once. (Potion of load)

The load consisted of --- ah heck I have to go look and see what the dryer has in it .... LOL One sec BRB...


2 large bath towels
4 face-sized twoels
4 shirts
1 pair denim shorts
1 pair brief (in flaming hot red. LOL )
1 pair boxers (in dangle-if-you-dare dark blue)
5 pair of sox
1 bandana (for sweat, definitely not a fashion statement!)


Post# 74751 , Reply# 27   7/23/2005 at 08:35 (6,851 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Well Steve, how does it work? That is such a cute little thing, much different looking than the SpinX Just wondering how much these are? Roger in Tucson has a Spin X that he got at a thrift store and really loves it. When I have been out there it has been fun to use. Amazing how much water comes out. Keep us posted and thanks for the neat pictures. Terry

Post# 74752 , Reply# 28   7/23/2005 at 08:38 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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BTW-


I like this model better than the one pictured by the guy model.


It is certainly not what I thought I was getting based on that pic. Curious to see if I get it for the price advertised, or shince this one is more deluxe (HA HA ) what the price will be.


Definitely a nice toy and I am very happy with it.


Post# 74753 , Reply# 29   7/23/2005 at 08:41 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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advertised as $119 IIRC

Post# 74754 , Reply# 30   7/23/2005 at 08:42 (6,851 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Nice Feature

I like that idea of being able to connect a hose for a spin rinse. It looks like a neat little machine, like a mini top loader.
Have you tried it out? How much water did it extract from the load?
MANY Thanks for posting those photos, they were very nice!


Post# 74755 , Reply# 31   7/23/2005 at 08:45 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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duh- and the most important factoid.


From the above load it removed 5 cups water (1.25l) [std.measuring cup, natch!]


I had an old galvanized tub that fits under the drain elbow fitting in rear.

When the timer runs out (they reccommend 2 to 3 minutes per cycle), the tub just coasts to a stop.

Opening the lid (to re-iterate) engages a brake.


Post# 74756 , Reply# 32   7/23/2005 at 08:45 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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I did not time the dryer, but it finished mighty quick!

Post# 74757 , Reply# 33   7/23/2005 at 08:48 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Quote: Roger in Tucson has a Spin X that he got at a thrift store and really loves it.


Do we have pics of this brand?

May I request? Thanks.


Hi Terry!!! Thanks for the input!!!


Post# 74809 , Reply# 34   7/23/2005 at 13:38 (6,851 days old) by agiflow ()        

That is such a cutie Steve. I know you will have a great time using it. Congrats.

Pat


Post# 74811 , Reply# 35   7/23/2005 at 13:51 (6,851 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Steve I don't think Roger has ever posted a picture of his but I will ask him to do so. How long did the load take to dry? PS Keep us posted as to what they charge you for this cutie. Terry

Post# 74838 , Reply# 36   7/23/2005 at 20:06 (6,851 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        
Thomas extractor

Hi All,
Felt my ears burning.....lol Sorry I never put pictures up of this extractor. It is made in Germany and carries the brand name Thomas but sure looks like a Spin-X to me. Actually I had to replace one of the rubber mounts for the motor and ordered it from the Spin-X dealer in Texas. Same exact part.
This is 8 lb model and spins at 2880 if I remember correctly. I use it all the time and love it. It takes about 3 batches to fit the load from my A608 Maytag. It more than halves the time for the dryer-nothing takes more than 30 minutes to dry. I use a Maytag LDG9801 gas dryer.


Post# 74840 , Reply# 37   7/23/2005 at 20:09 (6,851 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        
Inside

Forgot- here is the inside of the Thomas. Nice stainless steel basket.
I will be anxious to hear how you like your's Steve. It is much more interesting looking and has some very cool features. I like the spin-rinse idea.


Post# 74886 , Reply# 38   7/24/2005 at 03:13 (6,851 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Yes, Thomas does have a nice basket!

Yours discharges from the front mine from the rear.

(L H Mercy- that don't sound right do it!).


2,880 RPM? :-( I wanted to be the fastest one on the block, even if for a few days.. LOL LOL LOL


Post# 74894 , Reply# 39   7/24/2005 at 05:31 (6,851 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Roger,

That's exactly the same as the AEG spin dryers sold here in Europe!!

Jon :-)


Post# 74904 , Reply# 40   7/24/2005 at 07:49 (6,850 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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There is a Dutch auction site called "Marktplaats" that has a separate section for spindryers.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO foraloysius's LINK


Post# 74909 , Reply# 41   7/24/2005 at 09:22 (6,850 days old) by westyslantfront ()        
Spin Dryer

I too have a spin-x. I use it after I wash clothes in wringer machines and it removes alot of water that wringer leaves behind.

Post# 74923 , Reply# 42   7/24/2005 at 12:39 (6,850 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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EEEERRRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!! I ordered one of those laundry alternative spin driers in April and they haven't even contacted me!!!!!!!!! I just sent them a VERY angry email...

Post# 74937 , Reply# 43   7/24/2005 at 14:13 (6,850 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Ran "The Boss" again (the spinner /extractor) just now with a load similar to the one I did the other day to test it.

From the F/L washer I was able to get only 1 cup of water out of it (.25l)


Big difference compared to 5 cups (1.25l) that it pulled out of the top loaders load!!


Post# 74939 , Reply# 44   7/24/2005 at 14:16 (6,850 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Quote: I just sent them a VERY angry email...


JOKE-
Careful, doesn't Pakistan have reputed ties to Al Qaida?

No offense intended or implied to anyone or any group.


Post# 74955 , Reply# 45   7/24/2005 at 19:02 (6,850 days old) by jmirawm (Barling Arkansas)        
cds dvds ?? nice collection of something......

I thought I had a lot of CD's. I quit counting at 300. I finally stored them all in books labeled as to what type of music. I have stored the jewel cases away. I really like how you have yours displayed. Would love to sit and look through them all. I enjoy music and hearing other peoples choices. It usually turns me on to something I really like.

Post# 74984 , Reply# 46   7/24/2005 at 22:31 (6,850 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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HA!

That's the spousal unit's stuff. It holds 500. The "tower" in front of it (not shown) [actually left when looking head-on]holds another 500.

My stuff is totally separate.

Did I mention that the closet in the den is FULL of Mr. Wonderful's cassestte tapes, and MORE CD's?

I hate clutter and too much stuff... *SIGH*




Post# 74987 , Reply# 47   7/24/2005 at 22:55 (6,850 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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My collection is rather odd..


More ethnic stuff and decidedly not western... remember in NYC we are all basically children or grand-children of immigrants.

In my case BOTH!


Post# 74996 , Reply# 48   7/25/2005 at 02:01 (6,850 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
I Like The Idea Of A Spin Rinse...

so much that I think I am going to order one of these. We don't have much storage room, nor a basement. However, right next to the washer/dryer closet we have a door going out to our patio that does have a drain and electrical outlet. Our Whirlpool doesn't appear to have a spin rinse either.

A question for all of you. How do you know how fast (what RPM) your washers are actually spinning at? Is it in the manual somewhere or maybe the shop manual?


Post# 75006 , Reply# 49   7/25/2005 at 06:45 (6,849 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Roger, how many watts does the Thomas draw?

Mine is very picky about being balanced to start spinning.. I have a feeling yours is much more "heavy-duty"


Post# 75078 , Reply# 50   7/25/2005 at 14:18 (6,849 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Now Look What You've Done!

Steve:

After looking at your photos, I ordered one of these spin dryers too. I figured it would be good to spin dry chamois after drying the cars as well as spin rinsing my laundry. It will also be put to good use to spin dry the towels used to dry the dogs off after their baths. Those towels just get sopping wet after drying 2 Labs and a Golden Retreiver!


Post# 75091 , Reply# 51   7/25/2005 at 16:07 (6,849 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
oh dear.. Don't blame me!

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LOL

Trend-setter and instigator, sweet innocent lil ole' me?







Post# 75123 , Reply# 52   7/25/2005 at 19:15 (6,849 days old) by rogera608s (Tucson,AZ)        

Steve,
My spinner says 300 watts on the label also forgive me but it is 2800 rpm-I don't know why I thought it said 2880. The label info is for 220v though.....I don't know how that translates. The motor says 120v on it.
It can be nasty if the load isn't quite packed in right-usually only at first-the more it gains speed it seems to smooth out. Sometimes I do have to stop it and rearrange things but not often.
Roger


Post# 75147 , Reply# 53   7/25/2005 at 20:32 (6,849 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Based on wattage, look like mine is the toy!

Post# 75206 , Reply# 54   7/26/2005 at 07:35 (6,848 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Uh-Oh....

I just got my order confirmation for my Spin Dryer, it states that my order for TWO of them have been processed! I really only ordered one. Let me call them......

Post# 75338 , Reply# 55   7/27/2005 at 09:41 (6,847 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        
Anyone recognize this?

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Well? Someone found this little machine in the UK I believe and others have been begging to get one in the US, so here's your chance!!!!! $149.95

CLICK HERE TO GO TO Pulsator's LINK


Post# 75614 , Reply# 56   7/29/2005 at 11:14 (6,845 days old) by Pulsator (Saint Joseph, MI)        

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"Dear James,

Thank you for your email. We apologize but there is a quality control
problem with the current shipment, we can't ship your order at this
time.
The machines come with a one year warranty, but really should last 6
years
or more. We don't feel comfortable shipping substandard products to our
customers. We are working on importing a new mini spin dryer that is
much
better quality, it should be available in approximately 2 months. We
apologize for the inconvenience.

Customer Service
The Laundry Alternative, Inc.
www.laundry-alternative.com...
Tel. 888.813.9559"

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Post# 75632 , Reply# 57   7/29/2005 at 14:38 (6,845 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
And alternatively......

Dear Allen,

A real person handles our orders. We saw that you had obviously accidentally double-ordered, we will only send and bill you for one unit.

Customer Service
The Laundry Alternative, Inc.
www.laundry-alternative.com...
Tel. 888.813.9559

Gee...I hope I don't get a defective one!


Post# 75657 , Reply# 58   7/29/2005 at 19:01 (6,845 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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ha!

Would that be that the thing is really hard to balance and sounds like the Concorde taking off even when balanced?

or that it smells like burning when unbalanced?

*SIGH*


Post# 75713 , Reply# 59   7/29/2005 at 22:39 (6,845 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Steve:

This is NOT what I want to be reading after I ordered one!
Is this spin dryer really hard to balance and smells like it's burning? Please elaborate!

Keeping my fingers crossed!

Allen


Post# 75854 , Reply# 60   7/31/2005 at 11:59 (6,843 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Allen:

I suppose the trick is to, of course, load it in a balanced way, and cut off the power ASAP when it is struggling.


The other guys (at the mini wash-in) had better luck with it than I did.

The smell is dissipating. It may have been jsut the new appliance "break-in period" odor.

Also trick seems to be to push the load in as far a possible, but not too much at once.

:-)


Post# 75938 , Reply# 61   7/31/2005 at 23:15 (6,843 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Thanks for the info. Hopefully mine will arrive this week. I have a load of dog towels that will need washing. I'll watch the balance on it. I'll let you know how it goes.

Post# 75968 , Reply# 62   8/1/2005 at 07:14 (6,842 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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:-)


Good luck and enjoy!


Post# 75983 , Reply# 63   8/1/2005 at 08:57 (6,842 days old) by designgeek ()        
Proper load size for these...

Drop the wet clothes into the spinner until it's full, don't press them down, and then put on the spin mat to keep stuff from escaping.

If you overload, what will happen is that the cylinder will take excessive time to come up to speed, which could cause problems.

An unbalanced load will cause excessive vibration. You can tell when you hear it. When properly loaded these things should be whisper-quiet when they're at running speed.

If you use the spin/rinse procedure of running water through the machine during a spin cycle, wait until it's up to speed before turning on the water and then monitor the operation. If the spinner starts to slow down, you're using too much water too fast, so turn down the water a bit.

These things are not "automatic" in the sense we're normally used to; they should be watched while in operation, at least until you're sufficiently accustomed to the sounds they make that you can keep an ear on it from another room.

Re. the various teething troubles & supply-line delays: this is normal for "early adopters" of various technologies or for technologies entering new markets. The burning smell might be a bad sign, I would look into that more closely.



Post# 75984 , Reply# 64   8/1/2005 at 09:04 (6,842 days old) by designgeek ()        

I wrote something about the micro-twinnie in England, though someone around here actually has one and has posted extensively including pictures.

The micro-twinnie on that USA site is similar to but not the same as the one sold in England. But, eeyow!, yellow and purple?! Can we have a choice of colors, please?, maybe back to good old blue & white and so on, maybe some pastels to match the vintage apartment kitchen...?

I might get one as a test case; would also be interesting to substitute DC motors and see if it would run off a solar system.

24" tall is a bit tall for convenient use if placed atop a kitchen counter next to the sink. Might be more convenient to place on a table adjacent to a bath tub or something.

What I need more than this is a compact dishwasher, but they seem to be too large for the space I have available. And a micro tumble dryer (also on the UK site) would be nice for spot-drying individual articles when there's not enough time to hang them on the line.


Post# 76000 , Reply# 65   8/1/2005 at 11:32 (6,842 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Here`s the link again and its very much on the lines of Toggles new spinner...1600rpm and very quiet...

In my experience you get to know how to load you own individual machines...(and having lots of spinners, about, 7 single & 16 on twinnies) the best option is to drape the clothes around the sides, think agi in the middle...place small items in the middle, dont pack down too tight because they need to fly to the sides etc...place the mat on top..

The newer twinnies are quiet ...but the older belt driven ones are most certainly not...I`ll make a mini vid (Hi Glen)of the latest model I`ve picked up, a 70`s Creda Debonair, 2,800rpm, it sounds like a cement mixer with afterburners..lol, very distinctive sound

Happy Spinning

Mike


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Post# 76142 , Reply# 66   8/2/2005 at 07:53 (6,841 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
The Mat Goes On Top?

Ah, I didn't know that the mat goes on top of the clothes! I probably would have put it at the bottom and had stuff flying out of the top of the unit all over the room (now that could lead to woofin!)
I haven't received my maching yet, but thanks again for the loading recommendations. That's some pretty helpful info!


Post# 76150 , Reply# 67   8/2/2005 at 09:06 (6,841 days old) by designgeek ()        

Yes, the mat goes on top of the clothes, and below the rim of the spin tub. When it's properly in place, it catches under the rim such that a uniformly applied pressure from below (i.e. clothes trying to escape) will not cause it to pop out, but you can remove it by bending it slightly so it can be pulled back out from under the rim. Very clever, actually.

And if you don't use it, you will have socks escape and get caught between the spinner and the outer tub, which could damage the machine. Not speaking from experience here, but it stands to reason.

Chester: but y'all in the UK have relatively *quiet* portable cement mixers, with enclosed driveline instead of an exposed ring gear like we have in the USA:-) (Word to the wise: wear hearing protectors, especially if you're pouring concrete in an indoor location, and keep your hair tied back or wear a cap.)

Someone back there, re. RPMs.: The UK and Euro spinners tend to be rated at 3200 rpm. The ones in the USA market tend to be rated at 1600 rpm. This may be due to the difference between a 240-volt motor (UK & Euro) and a 120-volt motor (USA). However in my experience, 1600 rpm does a dandy job, and gets a measurable amount more water out of a load.

Chester again: Yes, exactly as you said, load the stuff as if there's an agitator in the middle, and then drop the small items like socks into the "donut hole" where the "imaginary agitator" would be. (Do this a few times and it becomes second nature.)

Another thing you'll notice when you're using a spinner on all your wash, is that your dryer times are reduced by 50% to 75%. And you'll notice a difference on your electric bill as a result. Those Asian-made spinner units should pay for themselves in about a year this way, and everything after that is clear savings.

What we need in the US is a spinner with a pump and discharge hose, that can be more or less permanently installed in the laundry room. I suspect that the minor inconvenience of having to deal with manual drains on most of these units, is holding back sales. But add a drain pump, and the savings on utility bills would be enough to make these things sell themselves.


Post# 76170 , Reply# 68   8/2/2005 at 18:38 (6,841 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Designgeek:

Thanks for all the info about how to load one of these spinners.
I like the way you discussed "clothes escaping" & "clothes trying to escape". ROFL! But there really is no other way to put it. I can just imagine the "escapees" flying out of the machine, throwing the lid open and being flung out all over the room! I have a load of dog towels just waiting to be washed & spun!

I agree with your statement that if these were able to be permanently hooked up to a drain, they would be hot sellers.


Post# 76295 , Reply# 69   8/3/2005 at 06:02 (6,841 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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...or better yet, add a quick-connect uni-couple as would be seen on a portable washer or dishwasher and really have something.

I'd love to be able to roll my Paksitani plastic toy "The Boss" to the sink and do a spray rinse.


Post# 76320 , Reply# 70   8/3/2005 at 08:01 (6,840 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Steve:

What size hose does that water intake on the "Boss" take? Is it just a friction type connector? Is a hose supplied with the unit?

Thanks!


Post# 76344 , Reply# 71   8/3/2005 at 09:14 (6,840 days old) by designgeek ()        


Ahh, but what other "toy" do you have that will actively save you money every month you use it?



Post# 76449 , Reply# 72   8/3/2005 at 19:07 (6,840 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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lol.


To be a gentleman, I sorta need to let that one go over my head LOL

:-)


The size (width) of the hose connection is 5/8 inch o.d.
The connection stub itslef is 3/4 inches long.


Post# 76545 , Reply# 73   8/4/2005 at 10:24 (6,839 days old) by designgeek ()        

Oh poo!, I didn't even catch that implication when I wrote it! Right, savings on dinners-out and movies that don't lead to a life of bliss... and all for only a few pennies' worth of electricity.

Hmm, someone should use that as a marketing concept. Probably sell a lot of those "appliances" that way.


Post# 76567 , Reply# 74   8/4/2005 at 12:51 (6,839 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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:-)


oh my.....


Post# 76649 , Reply# 75   8/4/2005 at 19:20 (6,839 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Now Arriving....

We came home from grocery shopping and lo and behold, there was our spinner sitting on the doorstep! After wrestling it in the house (rather bulky and no handholds on the box) I opened it up and brought it to the kitchen for a cool down. After being out in the Texas heat the unit sure was hot. I figured I'd let it cool down to room temp before I use it. I was rather impressed by the build quality. It seems pretty well put together with all the parts fitting nice and tight and square to each other.
Except for the lid, which is a touch flimsy, it seems to be built to last for awhile.
It smells exactly like Chrysler Corp cars did 1968-1973 or so!
That's the first thing I noticed when I lifted to lid. I was instantly reminded of the special sound the starter made on those cars. When you heard one start back then, you knew it was from Chrylser just by the sound. Kinda like a tinny whine.
How can a smell remind you of a sound, kinda crazy, but it does!
Well, the dog towels are a washin'.


Post# 76669 , Reply# 76   8/4/2005 at 20:49 (6,839 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

I finished up the load of dog towels. Four bath size and 4 hand towel size dust cloths. I filled up the spinner basket and started her up, set for 3 minutes. It extracted only 1-1/2 cups of water from the towels. As a test, I redistbuted the towels in the spinner and spun them again. No more water, which means that it truly extracts all the water from the clothes.
Dry time took 33 minutes, rather than the normal 50 minutes or so in the WP dryer. These are thick towels!
The first spin was quieter than the second. It does have that "Concorde Taking Off" sound, but it is more like a loud humm, rather than a roar. Personally I don't think that you would want to connect a hose to that water inlet, I think it would overwhelm the machine. I put a funnel in the water inlet and then took a nice big 64 oz container of chlorine free water and poured it through. The water came out clear and clean.
I don't have a burning smell, the laundry area now has that "new car" smell. Not objectionable at all. I think it will go away after several uses.


Post# 76671 , Reply# 77   8/4/2005 at 20:56 (6,839 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Great!

Enjoy.


Post# 76751 , Reply# 78   8/5/2005 at 12:36 (6,838 days old) by designgeek ()        

Coolio!, another spinner installed, and another electric bill going down by a measurable amount each month.

Re. the water inlet: I've been experimenting with the spinner on my TT, which is basically similar to these standalone spinners. The point of the water inlet is for the spin/rinse procedure, used where your washer doesn't spin (i.e. TTs and certain compact washers that don't have spin cycles in the washtubs).

If you put water in while a spin cycle is going, the added inertial mass of the water going into the load will bog down the system and put strain on the motor. I tried this once and could tell the motor didn't like it one bit.

However, you can wait until after the motor stops, and then start adding water about halfway through the amount of time it takes for the spinner to coast to a stop. Or you can wait until it stops entirely, and then add water. Soak it into the load slowly enough that it doesn't pool up. Then stop the water and start another spin cycle. It will take longer to get up to speed than if you've taken the clothes out of a washer that's already spun 'em, but it will do the job. Repeat as needed to get *all* the detergent out. I've been experimenting with this procedure to see how much or little water it takes and how many spin/rinse cycles are needed to get to where there's nothing left to rinse out in a regular rinse cycle. It doesn't cause any extra strain on the motor.

Realistically, if you've just washed / rinsed / spun in another machine, you don't need to do the add water & spin/rinse procedure with the spinner; the purpose of the spinner at that point is to extract all the rest of the water so your dryer time (or clothesline time) will be much less. And yeah it'll pay for itself pretty quickly that way.


Post# 76756 , Reply# 79   8/5/2005 at 14:18 (6,838 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Thanks for the additional info about the Spin/Rinse. We only did the Rinse/Spin one time and even with 64oz of water while the machine was spinning at full speed you could tell the water was slightly throwing the spinner out of balance as soon as the addition of water began. I think this feature would come in handy if you oversuds something, like towels where the rinse water would look as sudsy as the wash water does.
Even though we only got 1-1/2 cups of water out of a load of thick terry cloth towels, we got 2-1/2 cups water out of a load of my uniform shirts (white, permanent press). Amazing. Those shirts dried in 20 minutes compared to the 35 it used to take. I would have thought that the towels would have held more water!
I find this unit pretty easy to load balanced, but if it starts spinning unbalanced it can start to "walk" and the one time it did the dogs started woofing at it and getting all defensive. They are already suspicious of the start up noise it makes. When we turn it on, all ears are pricked up and facing the laundry area!


Post# 76861 , Reply# 80   8/6/2005 at 16:44 (6,837 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Spin Rinsing

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Method of rinsing described by DesignGeek is how one spin rinses with a Hoover twin tub. Laundry is taken from the wash tub and the first spin extracts soap/detergent water back into the wash tub for reuse. Next, one simply fills the extractor tub with water, over the laundry and then let the machine do it's thing. Am here to tell you there is a thrilling sound as the water hits the outer tub as the spinner ramps up to speed. In theory one could take the laundry out of the spin tub and do deep rinses in the wash tub, but have found several spin rinses to be VERY effective in removing even heavy detergent residue.

Vis a vis the above, when a wash load has too much detergent residue and I do not feel like waiting ages for the Miele to do several cycles, just bung the load into the Hoover and do spin rinses. Usually three or four fills and the rinse water is clear. How cool is that?

Pouring water or hosing durning a spin rinse in machines not designed for that sort of thing can damage the motor. It also does very little in terms of rinsing as the water is quickly pulled to the top/sides of the tub as it enters, then spun out. In order to be effective the spin speed would have to be slowed down allowing the water to saturate the entire load from the top down. This is why the Hoover method is much more effective in rinsing. In fact most Hoover TT's fans seem to admit the "Deluxe" rinsing feature on later models (a spray rinse), does not do as good a job as previous incarnations.

An interesting spray rinse/extractor feature is found on the Unimac twin tubs, commonly seen in car washes/restaurants. Water enters the spin tub by means of a diffuser which creates a fine mist. This mist is then pulled through the load creating a very effective rinsing action even when the spinner is at speed. One can keep this water going as long as one likes, then shut it off to allow final spin drying.

Launderess


Post# 77043 , Reply# 81   8/7/2005 at 22:41 (6,836 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Spin Rinsing

After experimenting with different spin rinshing techniques today I came up with a version that works nicely. It's along the lines of Designgeeks and Laundress' recommended process.
I took a load of towels out of the washer and put a few in the spinner, I had a big pitcher of water (64oz) and poured some of it on these towels, added more water, then more towels, etc. I found that if I just poured the water on top of a load of towels, the water wouldn't make it to the bottom of the spinner as it was being absorbed by the towels on the top in the spinner basket. The spinner did start off slowly taking about a minute to reach full Concorde velocity. BTW, the rinse water came from our Reverse Osmossis water filter. I was amazed that the water was slightly cloudy as the rinse water in the washer was relatively clear. I did four of these spin rinses and the water was clear at the end.
But wait, there's more....
When I dried the towels, I noticed that they were nice and fluffy but I had one towel that was part of a set of four towels, beige backround with intermittent blue and rust color stripping. Only one of these towels went through this process, the other one was still sitting clean in the linen closet. I compared them and the beige was much more brighter on the towel that was spin rinsed, and the blue and beige stripes were much brighter and apparent than the other towels. I was amazed. These towels are about 8 years old, but still in great shape. Could this be that the spin rinse cleaned out all the old detergent residue that built up over the years? Could this be why front loading machines clean clothes better, because of the higher spin speed?


Post# 77046 , Reply# 82   8/7/2005 at 22:58 (6,836 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Hi Whirlcool, am also wondering if you noticed any difference in the smell of the towels after drying. When I have used Roger's little Thomas spinner in Az. I am always amazed at the difference, they just have a different scent. Maybe it is just my imagination, what do you think? Anyone else have thoughts on this. Terry

Post# 77053 , Reply# 83   8/7/2005 at 23:46 (6,836 days old) by bpetersxx (laf in on the banks of the Wabash River)        
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I found this while looking for compact dishwashers

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Post# 77055 , Reply# 84   8/8/2005 at 00:13 (6,836 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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High speed extraction is much like a centrifuge (sp?- too knackered to look it up), in that is does a good job of "separating" out materials. In the case of laundry water and soilds are removed from the heaviest of items, the laundry.

A quick examination of water extracted from the Hoover TT spinner, even after a final high spin spin in a Miele shows not only water, but foam (excess detergent/laundry product residue), and if present soils and sand.

Remember those Bugs Bunny cartoons where a wet animal sort of "extracts" water from his fur leaving him bone dry? Well the same sort of thing is going on in the spinner. This is why towels seem so much more fluffier, even when line dried, and laundry seems "brighter". Dulling soap and detergent residues have been spun out, leaving laundry cleaner. Even on the rare occasions I use scented detergent (Wisk Tabs) for our laundry, the fragrance is almost gone after a spin in the Hoover TT. Can only assume that the fragrance is no match for a two or three minute high speed extraction and it goes down the drain along with the water and soap residue.

Great thing about these extractors is one can have a high speed final spin until one is satisfied items are indeed "spun dry". IIRC most washers limit their final high spin to about the final two or three minutes of the final spin cycle. This may or may not be enough depending upon the load size and composition. A load of thick and thirsty bath towels/robes almost always benefits from a good long high speed spin, whereas sheets and shirts not quite.

Sadly one thing in common with extractors/spinners seems to be they do not have along useful life without repairs. Even the old Bock extractors needed regular repairs, so must guess high speed spinning does cause some stress on parts.

Launderess

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Post# 77069 , Reply# 85   8/8/2005 at 05:39 (6,836 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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ahhh... scent and chemicals are separated out.

Explains why spinner processed items appear to me to be rougher-- any softener is outta there!

and/or perhaps still havent found the right automatic dry cycle setting, so far, and the machine is over-dyring!


Post# 77072 , Reply# 86   8/8/2005 at 06:04 (6,836 days old) by Lavamat_Jon (UK)        

Launderess,

I have to agree with you about the "fluffiness" towels gain after a high speed spin. My AEG is quite rare among frontloaders in that it maintains 1600 for about 6 or 7 minutes (versus my Miele which maintains spins at 1600rpm for 3 minutes after a 3 minute 1200rpm spin, and the Bosch which spins at 1400 for 1 minute or so after 2 or 3 minutes at 1000rpm), which whilst unnecessary on most fabrics where a 3 or 4 minute spin at even 800 or 1000rpm will do, the longer faster spin really does get that extra bit of water out of towels and as a result, compared to both the Miele and the Bosch the towels come out more fluffy when spun in the AEG - although the end result is questionable dependant upon what drying method is used/

There are two views to the fact that more chemicals are spun from the laundry - the fact that its a good thing as it gets as much detergent out as possible and hence lowering the chances of skin irritation or any other allergies, and also the fact that as Toggle mentioned softeners etc are spun out more. Solution to this seems to be either lower the speed (if possible on a machine with variable speed control), or shorten the spin time if using a spinner. I often use the Minimum Iron cycle on my Miele when washing clothes for the particular reason to the fact that the shorter and slower spin, whilst getting the majority of the water out with hardly any creasing at all, also leaves more of the softener in (both softness and scent) which is much more pleasant on clothes. Of course, there is nothing worse than scratchy undies LOL.

The reliability of spin dryers is questionable and all depending on the use. If you use it in a proper fashion, load it so that it doesn't go off balance, and (if the spinner is equipped with a rinse function) don't overfill with water, then it should last you for quite a while. Launderess - you have a good point regarding the Bock spin dryers, I would say that as they would have multiple users, especially the ones in launderettes, that they would have handled a lot of abuse, people not loading properly etc and therefore impacting on the life of the spinner.

Right, I've blabbered on here long enough... time to start my washing LOL.

Take care all,

Jon


Post# 77089 , Reply# 87   8/8/2005 at 08:36 (6,835 days old) by designgeek ()        

I've also noticed a complete absence of scent (which to me means "perfectly clean") when using the spin/rinse procedure. Very interesting, that may in fact be old detergent residue coming out. And yes, my underwear comes out whiter. I found a few pair at the bottom of my underwear drawer that hadn't been worn or washed since before I got the TT, and they are definitely a shade grayer.

Re. durability & repairs: if the machine is subjected to excessive vibration, that will probably shorten the life of the bearings compared to if it's loaded properly so it runs smoothly. Difficult to tell in advance when you've got it loaded just right, but over time one tends to get it right by intuition.

The Unimatic sytem is very clever, but also probably has a 1-HP or larger motor driving it. That would certainly be a good machine to have for a very large household or a communal laundry. I'm going to guess those things cost about $3,000 new because they're probably manufactured in limited production runs.

The unit depicted in bpetersxx's posting looks like a Spin-X. Those are either made in USA or are European units imported & rebranded here, definitely the high-end version, and a full 3,300 RPM. I was thinking, a pump and normal discharge hose would be a great standard feature on those things, but it just occurred to me: many people do not have a sink in their laundry room, only a single vertical pipe in which to stick a discharge hose from the washer. So an additional discharge hose from a spinner could be problematic: where to stick that hose?:-) And if the machine is used as a post-process after a washer with regular spin, the amount of water coming out will not be large, so gravity drain into a bucket is not a serious inconvenience, especially after you see the dryer time cut by half and the electric bill go down.

"That sound" Yeah, it's cool, I think of it as sounding like a jet turbine winding up.

Re. doggies: "Here comes this big noisy thing moving across the floor, definitely time to sound the alarm and woof up a storm!"


Post# 77105 , Reply# 88   8/8/2005 at 10:59 (6,835 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

After doing most of laundry yesterday, it seems the dogs have gotten used to the spin dryer, even though they do keep an eye on it when it's spinning up...(Yellow Lab, Black Lab/Great Dane Mix, Dalmatian)
I also had to divide the laundry load from the washer into three parts as one washer load wouldn't fit into the spinner at one time.
The clothes that we used softner on (Downy Vanilla & Honeysuckle) fragrance was reduced, but it was still there even after a few spin/rinses. But the water extracted, especially from the jeans/socks had quite a bit of foam on the surface of the water. It took about four spin rinses to get the water clean. When we add water to spin rinse we set the spinner for five minutes.
I learned a heck of a lot from this thread! I'll keep an eye on making sure the spinner is balanced before spinning. It's kind of amazing that if it is just a little bit out of balance, it throws it off. Also, the better it is balanced, the quieter the unit runs.


Post# 77106 , Reply# 89   8/8/2005 at 11:13 (6,835 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Tlee618:

Yes, the spin dried laundry does have a fresher fragrance. Kind of like a "lighter" smell.

See if you can detect which towel was spun dried below, the right side or the left side. You can easily tell by the color and the "fluff factor" differece. It's more apparent in person! Both these towels are the same age and have had approximately the same number of uses over the years.


Post# 77107 , Reply# 90   8/8/2005 at 11:16 (6,835 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Whirlcool, I am guessing the one on the left the colors seem to be more intense. Seems a bit of a blurr so I could be wrong. I sure do agree about the "fresher frangance" Terry

Post# 77113 , Reply# 91   8/8/2005 at 11:47 (6,835 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Hint

Look at the very bottom of each towel and see which "stands up" (fluffier) better....

Post# 77114 , Reply# 92   8/8/2005 at 11:50 (6,835 days old) by westytoploader ()        

That has to be the one on the right, looks much brighter and "fresher".

After seeing this I need one of these!


Post# 77127 , Reply# 93   8/8/2005 at 13:42 (6,835 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Here's a better photo

Here is a clearer photo of the towels. Remember they are about 8 years old and have been in weekly use. See how the color on the non-spin rinsed one is more faded out and the beige looks kind of dingy.


Post# 77129 , Reply# 94   8/8/2005 at 13:47 (6,835 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        
Here's a better photo

Here is a clearer photo of the towels. Remember they are about 8 years old and have been in weekly use. See how the color on the non-spin rinsed one is more faded out and the beige looks kind of dingy. The fibers seem to stand up better.


Post# 77132 , Reply# 95   8/8/2005 at 14:06 (6,835 days old) by tlee618 ()        

Thanks Allen, That picture is much better and can easly see the difference now. Terry

Post# 77462 , Reply# 96   8/10/2005 at 11:02 (6,833 days old) by designgeek ()        

'Yow! that's a darn good comparison there! The spin/rinsed towel looks newer, fresher, and the colors are brighter.

I really noticed brighter color with a somewhat old medium-green shirt of mine that I had previously thought of as faded and dingy, as in "don't wear this to client sites except when doing a new PBX install or helping the cable crew (both of which are physically intensive)." Over the past few months I've noticed: hey this is brighter, looks newer. So now I figure it must be the highspeed spin taking out all the detergent residue that had never quite come out. Very interesting!




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