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Post# 425109   3/27/2010 at 07:10 (5,150 days old) by sudsman ()        

From A Guide to Good Laundry Service. American Cascadex Split pocket washer extractor. Extract speed was 560 and Machine cost a outragous $1800.00




Post# 425112 , Reply# 1   3/27/2010 at 07:18 (5,150 days old) by randycmaynard ()        
Definately

 an interesting photo - machine looks more like a huge wood burning stove or furnace with that open door to access the drum. Bet it was fun, in a way, to run the thing.... neat vintage photo!

Post# 425173 , Reply# 2   3/27/2010 at 11:39 (5,150 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Lee, Thanks. It looks like the machine has two doors open; the pocket door and the tank door. It does not seem that 560rpm even in that large drum would have extracted enough water that most things would not have to go through the extractor before finishing so that the dryer and ironer could operate at high efficiency, or am I wrong?

Post# 425200 , Reply# 3   3/27/2010 at 14:58 (5,150 days old) by sudsman ()        
For the time it was a marvel

 After 10 mins of extract it did pretty well. Not near as good as a extractor and not enough to go right to the ironer without being conditioned. They as most of Americans machines were VERY loud and this model called for a 36x36 x36 slab to hold it down. A weight cart came with the machine and load had a 5 lb per side tolarance.

Post# 425332 , Reply# 4   3/28/2010 at 15:20 (5,149 days old) by Spiceman1957 ()        
When I used to visit my laundomat,

 before I got my own W/D, there was an a large, round extractor that you could use for $.50. It usually took about 5 minutes, but it really made a difference when it came to drying your clothes for $.25 for 15 minutes.
John

Post# 425364 , Reply# 5   3/28/2010 at 19:03 (5,149 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Those Would Be "Bock" Extractors

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Ounce quite a common sight in laundromats, now for the most gone. Banished due to concerns over injury and legal claims resulting thereof. Many laundromat owners whom do not own their own building find it written into the lease they cannot install such extractors at all, and or without giving due notice to landlord. Also many laundry consultants and franchise operators won't allow them as well.

Still, being as the above may, you can still find them around in some areas. IIRC, parts are hard to come by for some older units, and or repairs are too expensive.

Personally given the rather woeful extraction of many modern laundromat front loaders, would love to see them come back in a big way. My Miele spins laundry much drier than the SQ machines at our local, and that saves anywhere from 10 to 15 minutes in drying time.

Post# 425448 , Reply# 6   3/29/2010 at 03:53 (5,148 days old) by sudsman ()        
Bock Extractors

Are really quite safe. They are gone in most laundries due to the cost. They are quite costly to purchase new. Bock always had fast breaking and good lid locks. It owners removed them that was not their fault.They are still widely used in jean laundries. Some of the older mfgs. of Extractors such as Troy American Hammond and Cook all had limit on the starts per hour the motor could handle . most wer 4 . But Bock had no limits on their motors due to the design of the machine.

Post# 425451 , Reply# 7   3/29/2010 at 03:59 (5,148 days old) by sudsman ()        
Hydraulic Extractor

THis is a hydraulic Extractor made by American Laundry Machinery.. Also called a "ram " exractor. The work is squeezed with 1000 lbs force. and a "cake" is made of the extracted items which then has to be broken up in a tumbler. They were very very efficient. Still widely used today in larger plants.

Post# 425469 , Reply# 8   3/29/2010 at 08:24 (5,148 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Extractors

 Lee, That big extractor in the hospital laundry had a note saying no more than X number of starts per hour; I don't remember how many.

When I was a kid our local laundry put a small extractor out behind the plant. The big stainless steel looking one was still in use. This one was painted white and I remember that it had what looked like a foot brake. I wanted it so badly. I think it had been used when they had a drop off wash and dry service on one side of the plant. They had Bendix machines with the slide lever at the top of the front panel to open the door. It had an indented round knob for the operator's thumb. Anyway, they used to spin the loads from the Bendix washers in this small extractor before drying them. Within a few years, this space was converted to a coin-op laundry first with Philco Bendix machines with two yellow knobs for wash and soak/rinse temps. Then came the awful Maytag Highlander washers with the weak centering springs that allowed the tub to slip way off vertical. Then they remodeled and put in big reverse-tumble front loaders.

Post# 425472 , Reply# 9   3/29/2010 at 09:02 (5,148 days old) by sudsman ()        
I am sure it was 4 starts per hour

 That gave you a load every 15 mins. The motors were so large and took so many amps. they just could not handle the power surge. Most took 100 to 150 amps to start.
Most all the smaller ones had foot brakes as this one did

Post# 425481 , Reply# 10   3/29/2010 at 09:50 (5,148 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Good, grief, what a load! (electrical)

 100-150 amps! I wonder if that's like the locked rotor load in a compressor. Thanks for confirming the foot break.

RE: the hydraulic extractor. In the early days of domestic washing machines, there was one brand, I want to say Savage, but I'm not sure, that used a water-filled bladder to extract water from the clothes. In the plans for the International space station, water extraction from the laundry was proposed to be done by squeezing since they can't have vibration from a spinning washer up in orbit. I thought they could just put them dripping wet in a secured cage in the cargo bay then slightly open the bay doors and let the vacuum of space freeze dry the clothes, but I guess they want to recycle the water.

Post# 425679 , Reply# 11   3/30/2010 at 00:50 (5,147 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Remember the "LR" rating for motors is only for less than a couple seconds-for the motor to overcome the load.In most compressers-there is an "unloader" valve or vane to unload the compressor so the motor can start it.For air compressers-esp large ones you can hear the unloader valve work as it lets off residual pressure in the compresser pump for the next start cycle.I had to replace an unloader valve relay in a very large rotary screw compresser(60Hp)The unit would trip its line breker as it tried to start-the unloader on this one was a vane flap that covered the air intake as the compresser started-the unit supplied building-house air.-it operated as a pair with another compresser-if one failed the other would take over-it was during a test the incoming compressers unloader vane didn't work-preventing it from starting.The new reciprocating piston compressers installed at my workplace-the building has two house air systems-70psi for the HVAC system(two 1 Hp compressers)and general house air-150PSI for the sandblaster mainly-two 10 hp compressers on one tank unit.If a large volume of air is drawn-both pumps run-for "topping up" only one runs.and the unloader can be heard.A blast of air after the compresser stops.
And remember a Bock spinner at a laundramt in Florida when I was much younger-my Moms laundry equipment failed that summer-so we used the laundry-the extractor cost like 50Cents to use per load-was worth it and fun to use!The motor was belt driven off the back of the machine-was fun to listen to it "spool up" like an airplane engine when the spinner was started.Did a good job of pre drying the clothes.There was one woman that carried on after the unit tore up her clothes-from her not loading it right or putting too much in it-the unit tripped off violently-Us kids got a laugh out of it.The woman didn't think it was so funny.Her laundry chewed up.

Post# 425682 , Reply# 12   3/30/2010 at 01:15 (5,147 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

You had to load those old extractors straight down and clumped similar to what is described as frigidaire loading. A hotel i worked in 1 summer in 1970's, the regular lady told me that she had seen it rip heavy bath mats. Don't string them clump them. alr2903



Post# 425715 , Reply# 13   3/30/2010 at 07:41 (5,147 days old) by Spiceman1957 ()        
That Remind me,

 The one I used at the local laundromat was on a pedestal that was bolted down. There was usually a laundry attendant that would help you fill it up as well (or at least watch you). I remember that you had to put your clothes all along the sides, not in the middle, lock the lid and insert your $.50.
John

Post# 425726 , Reply# 14   3/30/2010 at 09:09 (5,147 days old) by sudsman ()        
Extractor covers

 most larger Extractors had a heavy duck cover cloth that you put over the load and under the rim of the load to keep anything from flying out or being damaged.. In the Bock Owners manuel they tell you to fold a towel in half and cover the load with it manking sure it is under the edges of the basket.

Post# 425728 , Reply# 15   3/30/2010 at 09:21 (5,147 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

I can sort of vaguely remember the cover cloth or something that you put over the load before you closed the Bock's lid and started it-that lady did not do that I beleive-she raised quite a scene at that laundry-US boys doing the laundry with Mom knew that-our little job was to load the spinner and dryer-the laundry operator showed us how to load the spinner.

Post# 425863 , Reply# 16   3/31/2010 at 06:39 (5,146 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I'd love to install

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a Bock in my basement!
Jeff's machine is FUN! to use!


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