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| Post# 464529 9/21/2010 at 04:43 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Hope you All Enjoy 
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| Post# 464530 , Reply# 1 9/21/2010 at 04:45 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Which Magazine November !960 Washers 
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| Post# 464531 , Reply# 2 9/21/2010 at 04:47 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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| Post# 464532 , Reply# 3 9/21/2010 at 04:49 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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| Post# 464533 , Reply# 4 9/21/2010 at 04:51 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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| Post# 464534 , Reply# 5 9/21/2010 at 04:53 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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| Post# 464535 , Reply# 6 9/21/2010 at 04:54 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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| Post# 464536 , Reply# 7 9/21/2010 at 04:56 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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| Post# 464537 , Reply# 8 9/21/2010 at 04:57 (4,966 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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| Post# 464555 , Reply# 10 9/21/2010 at 08:12 (4,966 days old) by electron1100 (England) | ||
Reading Material | ||
| Post# 464599 , Reply# 12 9/21/2010 at 12:01 (4,966 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland) | ||
A big thanks Paul, | ||
Post# 464648 , Reply# 13 9/21/2010 at 15:20 (4,966 days old) by foraloysius  (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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| Post# 464756 , Reply# 14 9/22/2010 at 02:29 (4,965 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Which Magazines Hi Guys. When I get my scanner sorted I will upload some more vintage Which Magazines. The earliest dates back to 1966. Some really good information in them. Paul | ||
| Post# 464766 , Reply# 15 9/22/2010 at 06:22 (4,965 days old) by kic () | ||
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Facinating stuff! Thank you for sharing : ) | ||
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Post# 464784 , Reply# 16 9/22/2010 at 09:07 (4,965 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Just scanned it | ||
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Post# 464792 , Reply# 17 9/22/2010 at 10:13 (4,965 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Which...!!!
Good selection there Paul, very interesting prices, I only knew 2 people who had any of those machines, one was my nans neighbour who had the wide bodied Hoover Front Loader and the other was my grans brother who had the matching English Electric 474 with dryer...
Jon, the Servis money shot of the MK41,series 2!!! The MK41 V1 (above) had the black Hi-Zone Agi, .. 
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| Post# 464823 , Reply# 18 9/22/2010 at 12:31 (4,965 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
Hey Mike, Hope you are well, and if you have moved hope it went ok !!
I thought the above Servis Auto was the MK55 ?? did they revert back to a black agi..? I remember growing up a m8 of mine who came to the UK from Sweden in the late 70's, his mum had one of those UPO machines, i was facinated by it as it was nothing like the common front loader in most homes of the day. Keith | ||
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Post# 464836 , Reply# 19 9/22/2010 at 13:52 (4,965 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Servis
Hey Keith, i`m relying on you!!!, my brain & body is frazzled with the move, am just turning the computer off to take with me, at at the new place but will have to make one last trip tomorrow, my car is not a tardis, unlike that cupboard under the stairs!!!
My books are somewhere, lawd knows where, but as I remember The Which machine 1969 is the second series MK41, small dials, silver panel, two stage agi The pic above is the series 1 MK41, new designed panel with blue porcelain tub, new two stage blue agi etc.. The MK55 had a silver black control panel but with very large circular knobs, am assuming the blue agi was used!! BUT heres what confused me, I`ve only ever seen one Servis top loader in action, it was my dads cousin, my Nan took me to visit and the top was open, it had the black agi ( thought like mums twinny) and a filter tray in the top LH corner which also you used for soap dispensing!! and the control panel was definately the V2 1969 MK41 silver and black, I remeber the contols small with long edges, there was no blue on the panel at all...I wonder if it was a retro fit or reconditioned, perhaps on a Service Plan... | ||
| Post# 464847 , Reply# 20 9/22/2010 at 14:14 (4,965 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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Hey Mike, good to hear from ya !! a well deserved break sounds like it could be in order after this move, they are very trying times & draining !! I came back from Bangkok last week, which was long overdue. Managed to get to a massive department store, and the amount and variations of top loaders was great.
Back to the Servis aka Holygrail..I don't know much about them after the MK41 V1 (blue facia) and the info i have is very limited..I even more curious now, that you mention there was a filter, that sounds like the machine circulated the wash water constantly, like the Hotpoint..I have attached a pic from a mail order catalogue showing what i think is the MK41 V2..? Cheers K 
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| Post# 464861 , Reply# 23 9/22/2010 at 15:30 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Hiya Mike. Refreshed after the hols? Hope that all is settling down nicely in the new pad! Give you abell soon to catch up. Attached piccies of the Servis's - mostly from your esteemed piccy collections. MK41H - circa 1966.... 
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| Post# 464862 , Reply# 24 9/22/2010 at 15:30 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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MK41 (the 'H' dropped) from circa 1969... 
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| Post# 464864 , Reply# 25 9/22/2010 at 15:32 (4,965 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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So wish that one would surface for you! We shall keep hunting and keeping our fingers crossed. Paul | ||
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Post# 464876 , Reply# 28 9/22/2010 at 16:26 (4,965 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Wow
Great cross selection of washers for the era...What year is that catalogue Keith?? just thinking that they usually had the new stuff before the shops did...does it say MK41 in the blurb, cos a s Paul says it looks a dark fascia...
Oh will we ever get to the bottom of it....lol The filter was a square tray in which you could put your powder in, and then the water flowed through like a filter flow, not sure if it was on later ones yep looking forward to catching up when i land back down again! | ||
| Post# 464940 , Reply# 29 9/23/2010 at 02:33 (4,964 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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Hey Paul, Unfortunately I no longer have the catalogue but if you or anyone wants a copy I can email you a copy so that you can expand the pic without distorting.
Mike, i think the catalogue was 1969/71 - in the blurb it says that the facia panel has been re-styled and also has a new filter as well as the proven "Booster" agi. I am so amazed that one hasn't been found in any shape or form. I never thought one would be so hard to find !! Cheers Keith | ||
| Post# 464941 , Reply# 30 9/23/2010 at 02:51 (4,964 days old) by paulinroyton (B) | ||
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Which Magazine August 1962 Washers 
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Which Magazine May 1970 Washers 
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| Post# 465033 , Reply# 51 9/23/2010 at 10:18 (4,964 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
What a great bedtime read this was last night!
And I so loved the sacrilege of the Frigidaire being unable to remove the cocoa and wine stains. After over an hour in the machine, with heating I presume. Tsk! Tsk! As Ricky Ricardo would say: "There must be a low-jih-gull 'splanation." (logical)
The cycle times were stunning when you consider that the US machines of the mid-sixites would have 3 loads done in an hour and a half, but then, alas, we couldn't heat. | ||
| Post# 465056 , Reply# 52 9/23/2010 at 12:43 (4,964 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K) | ||
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Blimey! Amazing that in 1962 they could write SOOOO much about a mere three machines! Incredible detailed and really interesting a read. Thanks again to paul for posting the reports. Cheers Paul | ||
| Post# 465482 , Reply# 54 9/25/2010 at 15:39 (4,962 days old) by HooverJames () | ||
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Keymatic... Can you scan that catalogue as I'm sure we all want to see that lovely Hotpoint 1600 closer! My Hoover Twosome Tub 1321A is depicted in that too. James. | ||
| Post# 465696 , Reply# 55 9/26/2010 at 11:03 (4,961 days old) by keymatic (London / UK) | ||
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| Post# 465711 , Reply# 57 9/26/2010 at 12:46 (4,961 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Hi D, Thanks!
I saw at the outset that the testers used the most extreme cycle on each machine to give the strongest test possible, but now, your explanation makes it clear. Likewise, a US machine on a pre-wash with extra rinse, or a Whirlpool on "Super wash" with an extra rinse would take almost an hour. The best thing was you helped us understand is that most UK users used a 40 minute cycle. Otherwise, washday, at 2 hours a pop, would have taken forever ;->
I'm still grinning, though, about the Frigidaire not getting out the wine and cocoa as well as the other machines did, and I have a theory, but it's gonna take me a while to write it. | ||
| Post# 467253 , Reply# 59 10/4/2010 at 11:21 (4,953 days old) by keiththomas () | ||
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English Eletric Thanks paul etc for the which from 1969. The styling of these machines is quite modern. I will when time allows copy and paste the English Eletric Deisgn centre catalgue when I get back from my hols bye for now | ||
| Post# 467266 , Reply# 60 10/4/2010 at 12:20 (4,953 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Why the Frigidaire may not have removed the stains....
For a few summer I was washing my white T-shirts in a Frigi '62, with the standard 3 ring agitator. The typical stains were berries, chocolate, and tomato sauce, and they always washed out. Then I bought a new Energy Ring, aka big bottom fin, from JoeL. These fins are smaller, visibly so. These are the same fins found on the Jetcone agitator which is the one inside the machine in the "Which " test . When I switched fins this summer, I hung the shirts on the line, stunned to find some of stains still there, muted but visible.
Nothing changed. I still eat dark chocolate (Lundt Intense Orange) berries and home-made spaghetti sauce often, still spill sometimes ;'D, use the same detergent, Tide with Bleach Powder, same procedure. Fill machine, agitate for a few minutes, pull the dial out for a soak (30 -40 minutes), then resume the wash period from where I paused for the soak. So now, I soak longer and turn the dial around for another full wash period, just before the first overflow. And the stains come out. I tried never spilling, but it didn't work. ;-> Findings: the smaller fin does not move the clothes as fast. Nor does it hit as hard since it is more bell-shaped and does not flatten out the way the standard one does. The advantage though is that there is no tangling, no matter how you load the tub. If you're not a challenged eater like me, you'd never notice the difference. This post was last edited 10/04/2010 at 12:51 | ||
| Post# 467306 , Reply# 61 10/4/2010 at 18:33 (4,953 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Why I had to replace the Energy Ring
We joked about it being an alien experiment, etc, but it worked fine for four years with the missing segment, although it tangled even with careful loading. Sure you can imagine why, the currents being all out of whack because of the missing piece, creating chaos in the warshtub.
And then I got a tear in it. So before it got any worse, and with JoeL offering new ones for sale, one black, one amber, and one green, I jumped. They work great with regular loads. By the weekend, I'll have pics of the new ones; they're very pretty. 
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