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| Post# 481210 , Reply# 1 12/12/2010 at 16:58 (4,884 days old) by targus () | ||
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another pic the second pic, it still looks quite ok 
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| Post# 481211 , Reply# 2 12/12/2010 at 17:00 (4,884 days old) by targus () | ||
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last pic On this pic the doorboot seems twisted, the machines were only 6 years old, I would go crazy if I would find my miele pair like this in our laundry room. 
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| Post# 481228 , Reply# 3 12/12/2010 at 20:38 (4,884 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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| Post# 481235 , Reply# 4 12/12/2010 at 21:07 (4,884 days old) by 3beltwesty () | ||
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what is the link suppose to point to? Did you mean for you link to go to an Ebay auction? | ||
| Post# 481260 , Reply# 5 12/12/2010 at 23:51 (4,883 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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| Post# 481281 , Reply# 8 12/13/2010 at 05:53 (4,883 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia) | ||
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I'd argue...
....that a moderm machine shouldn't move at all if properly leveled and on a solid floor...
In fact, the only machine I have had move at all was the Hoover Electra and that was no more than 4 or 5 times in 12yrs and by about 1/2cm in any direction from a very poorly balanced load....in fact, the Blomberg, Zanussi/Electrolux or Zanussi/Westinghouse have never moved at all.... There is something very wrong with a 100kg machine moving with an unbalanced load...especially a Miele... | ||
| Post# 481304 , Reply# 9 12/13/2010 at 07:18 (4,883 days old) by Samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
Hard to believe....
Owning a Miele machine myself, I do find these pictures particularly hard to believe.
Even with the most violently out of balance loads that I've seen my washer spin, the washer itself has never moved out of its place in the slightest, nor has the drum hit the surrounding cabinet of the washer, the suspension system and out of balance control are the best I personally have ever seen in operation. Our Miele isnt on the MOST suitable flooring type either, floorboards and tiles, not the prefferable concrete flooring which is best, yet the machine has still not moved. Not only this, but other Miele machines ive seen, whether it be in person or on Youtube, never seem to move. Also, looking at the pictures, the machine itself seems to be visually undamaged, considering the weight of these machines, plus the laundry inside AND having a dryer stacked ontop, it must of hit the ground with some brute force which you think would have caused alot more damage, the display and such dosnt even crack in sight, just a slightly twisted door seal after such a fall seems suspicious, in my view anyway. Other washers that I've had in the past have often banged around and jumped during spinning,in particular, the Hoover which was primarily because of a very poor suspension. Just thought I'd have my say. Rich | ||
| Post# 481343 , Reply# 13 12/13/2010 at 10:13 (4,883 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA) | ||
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I wouldn't call that a pedestal. It appears solid, part of the floor, built in and part of the home construction. When you say "pedestal", I think of the flimsy metal boxes made by/for manufacturers to place the washer/dryer on top of. I can easily see a warrenty voided on one of those, and I'm sure that they are not made to have the dryer stacked.
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| Post# 481352 , Reply# 14 12/13/2010 at 10:53 (4,883 days old) by 3beltwesty () | ||
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maybe a brick in the washer? :) maybe a brick in the washer? :) CLICK HERE TO GO TO 3beltwesty's LINK | ||
Post# 481356 , Reply# 16 12/13/2010 at 11:34 (4,883 days old) by vacbear58  (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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Well .......
There could be any number of reasons why this happened:
It looks to me like the "pedestal" is actually of wooden construction, as has been noted earlier a wooden suspended floor is not ideal (I have the same problem, my miele sits on 40mm chipboard) so if the platform (pedestal) was not of very solid construction and secured to the floor, vibration and "travel" will be a problem no matter how good the machine. HOWEVER, the ad does not say what actually happened - it may not have happened while the machine was in operation at all! i dont speak German but an on-line translation says they bought another Miele, so they cannot be that fed up with it. I notice they are not listing a tumble dryer, I wonder why ..... Al | ||
| Post# 481360 , Reply# 17 12/13/2010 at 11:39 (4,883 days old) by 3beltwesty () | ||
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What are the two rods clipped on the back in the first photo Shipping braces? hoses? | ||
| Post# 481362 , Reply# 18 12/13/2010 at 11:47 (4,883 days old) by Samsungfl (United Kingdom/London ) | ||
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it just spins away (whatever the unbalance)
My Miele, the W3922WPS also uses the same balancing method whereby it tries to get the load balanced for two goes if it needs to, then on the third it will pretty much spin anyway, HOWEVER if the load is far too unbalanced to spin, it will balance again to avoid the spin becoming too violent, which I like to be honest, you dont get any time wasted with balancing like some others do.
From what I've seen they never just spin regardless of the balance and if they are levelled properly on the floor (like mine is) you would notice that no matter how unbalanced the drum is, the machine itself dosnt move in the slightest and again, nor does the drum hit any other components within the machine. Maybe your Aunt's could do with levelling - just a thought :-) 3beltwesty - Yes those are the shipping/transit rods that you can see :-) Rich | ||
| Post# 481417 , Reply# 21 12/13/2010 at 14:35 (4,883 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Maybe the Miele is trying to convert itself to a rigid base machine. I hear rigid base machines don't work very well unbolted. *OR* It could just be upset that its owners aren't showing it very much love. | ||
| Post# 481443 , Reply# 22 12/13/2010 at 16:44 (4,883 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia) | ||
This is straight out of Miele's instruction manual
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raised plinth, it has to be secured against slippage during spinning using retaining clips (available from the Miele Spare Parts Dept). The problem is that people think its easy just to raise the machine off the ground without some sort of fastening. Miele washing machines will spin with an imbalance of 2kg, but ofcourse not at high speed. The max it will spin with an unbalanced load is 900 rpm. Competitor machines will not spin if they sense the slightest imbalance. This is testament to Miele's solid construction and weight which can handle unbalanced loads better. BTW the new W 5000 series have had their suspension modified to handle the larger drum and capacity. They now have 3 shock absorbers instead of 2. The 4 springs still remain and have be reinforced. | ||
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Post# 481472 , Reply# 23 12/13/2010 at 18:44 (4,883 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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Hi Rod, When will the 5xxx series make it to Australia? The far bigger capacity would be a big motivator to move from the W2888. | ||
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Post# 481485 , Reply# 24 12/13/2010 at 19:57 (4,883 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Post# 481489 , Reply# 25 12/13/2010 at 20:13 (4,883 days old) by brisnat81 (Brisbane Australia) |
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A 2 x 4 toggles :) For some reason some stuff still uses imperial measures :) | ||
| Post# 481572 , Reply# 26 12/14/2010 at 04:41 (4,882 days old) by matthewza (Cape Town, South Africa) | ||
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tumble dryer could we have a pic of the tumble dryer to see the damages? | ||
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