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| Post# 487781 1/9/2011 at 22:30 (4,846 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
Yay, so I have not been feeling very well lately due to a recently discovered illness so today I was up and about around the house. I drug the Hoover out and fired up the GE for a round of laundry. 3 baskets to be exact and what a blast. 2 dryers and 2 washers going in the kitchen at once! It made me feel a lot better to be doing something as opposed to sleeping all day like I have been :)
First up: The GE "set it and forget it" automatic. Loaded this with work pants and let it work it's magic while I get the manual interaction going with the Hoover going :) Filling for the wash. GE's are water hogs no doubt: 
A dash of Sears Ultra Plus w/Fabric Softener. I like this stuff, just the right amount of FS in it. 
GE Ramped Activator taking care of the heavy work. FF hat removed for clarity. Love that sound 
More to follow... -Tim | ||
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| Post# 487785 , Reply# 1 1/9/2011 at 22:43 (4,846 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Into the Hoover 0519
Since I have the dryer stand for the little Hoover dryer, it's easier to keep them in the kitchen and use them. I washed my work shirts in the duo as well as the socks, underwear and wash cloths afterwards. Oh the sound!
First thing's first! A little scoop Sears Ultra Plus goes a long way. This as used in the GE today has FS in it. This works out great in the twin tub machines as it allows one to use FS without the spotting that can happen with trying to use liquid with the spray rinsing. It's also low sudsing, which is great for spray rinsing. 
Going full swing. I love these things, as you can see the Sears detergent doesn't froth up uncontrollably which is really nice. Just turned on the tap for rinsing while the washer is washing. Very efficient! 
Automatic Rinse as well! This model has the auto-rinse feature which is nice. You turn on the water tap, set the switch and let the machine do the rest. It fills to a set point and starts the spinner while the water is running until empty and then turns off the spinner. When the water is not soapy, cut the water and flip the switch to spin to get things nice and dry. 
The water says it all. With this detergent, one sometimes only needs one cycle of the rinse sequence to get clear water. This is after only one go in the spinner for a load of polo work shirts. Not too bad. 
-Tim | ||
| Post# 487787 , Reply# 2 1/9/2011 at 22:47 (4,846 days old) by Andy (Mount Vernon) | ||
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Nice equipment there, Tim! Loved the Filter-Flo GE's! They were awesome machines, and I would love to see them revive this design again. | ||
| Post# 487792 , Reply# 3 1/9/2011 at 22:55 (4,846 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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i ran my filter flo today too! | ||
| Post# 487793 , Reply# 4 1/9/2011 at 22:55 (4,846 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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And to Finish Things Off..
The Hoover 0910 dryer steps up to the plate. The matching model to the 0519 washer (and others), it only seemed fitting to use it for finish off the work shirts and add a little humidity to the dry house.
Harvest Gold 0910. I have the matching Gold washer, but I like my Avocado machine much better. Would love to find a green dryer to match. Seen here on the optional RARE dryer stand. 
110v and a control dial that would confuse anyone. For the longest time I wrote this dryer off as being beyond useless until I realized I was using it incorrectly! The cycle is determined by which direction you rotate the timer. CLOCKWISE, which is how I'm used to setting a dryer dial starts this dryer in the Permanent Press (low heat & cooldown) cycle, causing ridiculous dry times. You have to turn the dial COUNTER-CLOCKWISE for full heat (Regular Cycle). 
Tumbling away. The key to good drying in this dryer is to mix large and smaller items. Small items tend to just stick to the drum, so a larger garment thrown in helps keep everything tumbling. This design is VERY similar to the Maytag DE-50 HOH dryer with a "halo" element up front and blower in the rear. The lint filter and setup are also similar. The only REAL difference is the blower setup. The Hoover uses a motor driven direct blower and the Maytag has a belt-driven unit. You can check out my profile avatar to see the drum a little better. 
Laundry day was fun. Anyone have washday photos to post as well? Thanks for looking! -Tim | ||
| Post# 487914 , Reply# 5 1/10/2011 at 12:35 (4,846 days old) by kic () | ||
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Awesome combo Hoovermatic washer and dryer... what more does one need! | ||
| Post# 487923 , Reply# 6 1/10/2011 at 12:50 (4,846 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
very low sudsing soap | ||
| Post# 487944 , Reply# 7 1/10/2011 at 14:28 (4,846 days old) by kic () | ||
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Hoovermatic/Hoover Twin tub What are the differences between the two? | ||
| Post# 487945 , Reply# 8 1/10/2011 at 14:37 (4,846 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Kitchen Wash
Mickey:
No, I don't believe there is anything more fun than washing in the kitchen. I need more excuses to have portable appliances around the house. Mostly I need more room. Louis: I'm really quite find of the set, in a pinch I could easily get by with only these. I wish there was more of a selection of twin tub machines over here, but alas. I loved your Hitachi's by the way. -Tim | ||
| Post# 487978 , Reply# 10 1/10/2011 at 15:45 (4,846 days old) by supremewhirlpol () | ||
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Tim, how well does the Plus with FS powder clean compared to the normal Plus powder? It that your TOL GE FF? | ||
Post# 487979 , Reply# 11 1/10/2011 at 15:45 (4,846 days old) by yogitunes  (New Jersey) |
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I would kill to have my machines in the kitchen again....or at least nearby, like a pantry or mud room.....
nice pics Tim....thanks for the effort can we see a pic of the GE's control panel also, did you flip back the fill flume, this will allow the water to spray directly on the clothes, nice waterfall effect also......you know me, I like visual effects....lol | ||
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Post# 487990 , Reply# 12 1/10/2011 at 16:20 (4,846 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoovermatics
Glad you indulged yourself Tim, nothing like wheeling those twinnys to the sink, connecting up the hoses and letting the water flow!!, the best powder to us in any twinny is "Automatic" "HE" or "Low Foam" the vigerous wash action means if you use soap powder or high foam you end up "Rinsing for England" as we say over here!!!
I do like the Hoovermatics, but my love is the Servis Supertwins!! just because I grew up with them I suppose!! The Hoovermatic is called that either because of the linked Heater / Wash Timer or the Automatic Rinsing etc, i.e. "Matics" short for Automatics...heres one of the last Hoover Twinnys made with Jon Jetcone from Boston taking it literally for a spin...watch how fast it shoots the spin water out, and thats in a deep utility sink!!! | ||
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Post# 487992 , Reply# 13 1/10/2011 at 16:31 (4,846 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK) |
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Hoovermatic.. | ||
| Post# 487996 , Reply# 15 1/10/2011 at 16:42 (4,846 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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A Response for Everyone :)
Louis:
The Hoovers started it all for me as well, I had an old white Hoover when I was a boy and another when I turned 18, I've put many miles on them with no regrets. You've had a lot, are the twin tub washers more of a common item there. Just curious, they were very niche market here and completely disappeared for the most part in the early 80's with Hoover being I believe the last US make to offer one. Melvin: For what I have used it for, I can see no difference in cleaning. It seems to be slightly less sudsing and adds only a hint of FS to the final product. It is less grainy than the standard (like flour) and has a slightly different scent. I like it, but still use the orange box for the nasty stuff as it works very well. The GE in the photo is the new TOL Spotscrubber that I built later last year. 1986 1st year model, originally a Hotpoint washer, I took the guts out of a rusted SS machine. This machine however is pretty worn, it always spins out of balance and bangs in spin. I'm looking for a new transplant patient. Martin: I love having laundry in the kitchen. In my old house, I had a big basement but getting down there from the main house was awful especially if you were carrying a laundry basket. I kept the Lady Kenmore portable set upstairs in the kitchen and then the Hoovers and Maytag. I know exactly what you're saying. I will see if I can upload a pic of the control panel later tonight for you. Here is a quick video I made after I put it together demonstrating the Spotscrubber feature. -Tim | ||
| Post# 488000 , Reply# 16 1/10/2011 at 16:54 (4,846 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Chatty Cathy
Mike:
The Servis is a grand machine. Here in the US we had the Speed Queen / Simplicity SuperTwin based off the mk70 like you have. No heater of coarse due to the 110v operation, but a very solid machine. There is also something very nice about having an agitator in a twin tub. I have one of these in pieces that I'd love to get running, but I have no source for parts really and the wash tub sump is badly rusted. Louis: The US Hoover versions prior to 1971 also had stainless steel tubs, but no heater ever. The choice of plastic facilitated 2 things at the time. One was color, with the early 70's brought tyhe demand for more colorful appliances. the polypropylene tubs could be molded in any choice of colors. The other factor was cost. There was really no need to have the stainless steel tubs in a machine with no heater. The Hoover manuals for the "poly" tub machines rates the tub at 140 degrees F for hot water washes while the stainless models listed 160 as the maximum. I like them both, but the color is nice. I have both of the older models with the metal tubs, the 0510 and the 0512. I have more Hoovers than I care to admit. An interesting note, only the original Hoover twin-tub was actually called the "Hoovermatic" in the US. It was in 1957 and it was imported from Great Britain. -Tim | ||
| Post# 488028 , Reply# 17 1/10/2011 at 18:47 (4,846 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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"Hoovermatic" in the US. It was in 1957 and it was i | ||
| Post# 488031 , Reply# 18 1/10/2011 at 19:07 (4,846 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Hoover Heat
Nope, unfortunately no US model of the Hoover had a heater. The things have 2 motors and can draw quite a load capacity on their own. I don't think heated 110v washers even appeared at all until much later on and probably in front loaders only. I venture to say that no twin tub washer sold in the US had one?
-Tim | ||
| Post# 488040 , Reply# 19 1/10/2011 at 19:23 (4,846 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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hmmmmm
I believe you Timothy, but how much cost and effort went into de-heating them, as heaters were pretty much standard on the Brit TT's , no?
Always dreaming and hoping for heaters on Vintage American Classics of any brand or model. Is R's Super Uni 2 the only known one that heats? The memory bulbs are dim in this area, but something wants to glow--a Bendix, some of the Combos? | ||
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Post# 488046 , Reply# 20 1/10/2011 at 19:42 (4,846 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey) |
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| Post# 488049 , Reply# 21 1/10/2011 at 19:51 (4,846 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD) | ||
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possibly heater in '60s WP combo i kinda remember the Ca.1961 RCA whirlpool combo i was given and stripped in 1979 did have a calrod heater in the sump, but that old,old memory could be wrong... | ||
| Post# 488053 , Reply# 22 1/10/2011 at 20:01 (4,846 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY) | ||
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Thanks, B. I was | ||
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Post# 488073 , Reply# 23 1/10/2011 at 21:02 (4,846 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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SS vs Poly Tubs
Hoover twin tub washers sold on this side of the pond (and elsewhere for all I know), did not have all one piece stainless tubs. Rather the thing was made of parts (welded?) together, and eventually many probably gave way to leaks. Once this happened the machine had to be scrapped.
My Hoover service and repair manual gives part numbers for the tubs, but highly doubt many if anyone went through the expense and bother of having a new tub put in, unless of course it was a warranty repair. Hoover advertised the "health" benefits of the poly tubs as being "seamless" with no "cracks, or crevices" for dirt and one assumes "germs" to hide. Despite showing the breath and width of Hoover's washing machine line, my vintage service manual does not show a single US washer with a heater. This inculdes the early washer with a mounted wringer. By the time Hoover's washers came along, plumbed hot water was the norm for most all homes. Just as with full sized washers there just wasn't a need seen to have a heating element. Chlorine bleach is what would have been used for whitening, stain removal (whites), and sanitising laundry. | ||
| Post# 488116 , Reply# 24 1/10/2011 at 22:44 (4,845 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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Link
Launderess:
The Hoover SS tubs are welded, but it seems the chance of failure is pretty low. It's a fairly good grade of steel and the welds are not skimpy. My issue with the poly tubs, is that there seems to be a finish on them that can degrade which causes everything to stick to the rougher plastic underneath. A nice hard car wax can remedy this, and it usually only occurs when harsh chemical s have been used without being rinsed away. Mickey: I'm with Launderess on the heating thing what with most households having hot tap water well before then. Water heating would be nice in them, but the power consumption is just too much for the 110v circuit to deal with IMO. Plus one has to look at the market for such machines. The market share for the UK versions was HUGE and they were sold as "THE" washer for your family. They were the equivalent of our early automatics in terms of appliance status and were meant to be used as a primary machine for a household. In contrast, in the US they were usually used by single apartment dwellers with little space that loathed the laundromat. Since many homes in the UK did not have hot water, it only made sense to have a sump heater in them (any washer for the matter). Now front loaders are a different story. I believe the WP/KM combos DID heat the water. The cool thing if I remember correctly is that even the gas version heated the water with it's gas burner. Still the electric versions were 240v and thus had sufficient power to power a heater. I think most of the older units that did actually heat the water were 240v. I would love to experience a machine, especially a twin tub with a heater. It would be (to me...) worth a trip to the UK just to experience some of the machines there. -Tim | ||
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Post# 488146 , Reply# 26 1/11/2011 at 09:02 (4,845 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK) |
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The early washer with a mounted wringer.....
Laundress
It would be very interesting to have some more information on this machine, like model number etc. or even a scan or photo please. Up until last year it was thought that the single tub machine was produced in only the UK - the first being Model 0307. However Paul (torquoisedude) turned up an (apparently) Canadian version - model 0308, although this looks the same as the UK one. Hence the interest if one was manufactured in N. Canton. The 0307 was an American design however and might well have appeared before 1948 had not WW2 intervened, there were plans in the 1930s to extend the Perivale site to accomodate washing machine plant, but this was eventually established in Wales. Chestermike's 0307 is shown in the attached video. Although Hoover UK built single & twin tubs (apart from 0307) were mostly supplied with heaters there were also versions for many years without heaters as well - perhaps (Matchbox)Paul can lets us know when these stopped. Al CLICK HERE TO GO TO vacbear58's LINK | ||
| Post# 488149 , Reply# 27 1/11/2011 at 09:46 (4,845 days old) by macboy91si (Frankfort, KY) | ||
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I THINK
And I use that term lightly, that the early Hoovers were all imports from the UK until the 0510 came out (2nd gen TT w/controls mounted on top above spinner). The 2 older examples I've seen of the old front control style TT machines were both UK made and the 0308 wringer I have a pic of was UK made. I recently found out (last year) that the wringer model was sold here and then at the DC Wash-In I met someone with a Hoover Power Wringer as well which blew me away as I thought that was Europe only. The North Canton factory made the 0510 and newer machines I do know for a fact, but in MY experience, any older Hoover washer than that I've seen was a UK import. It does make sense though being that the UK had the fully outfitted Merthyr Tydfil plant at full operation at the time, I'm pretty sure the North Canton factory was vacuum only until the late 50's / early 60's when some of the additional buildings were put up. There was growth on the campus at this time.
This is just my speculation based on what I know and have researched. -Tim | ||
| Post# 489280 , Reply# 29 1/16/2011 at 08:42 (4,840 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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My little hoover had a galvanized metal drum, they Tags were porcelain, they both worked very well. alr2903 | ||
| Post# 722362 , Reply# 30 12/21/2013 at 14:24 (3,770 days old) by PortableHOOVER () | ||
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Hoover Portable Washer and Dryer I have the green set like new! Does anyone know how much the set is worth? | ||
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