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Moving to a new rental house, need help washer/dryer
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Post# 506451   3/24/2011 at 12:24 (4,861 days old) by kjs1968 ()        

I am going to be moving into a house that i just rented and need to buy a washer and dryer. I thought a nice front loader would be good, but a friend who knows about washers says that he would stay away from those. I have some travelers reward points under my belt and one of the offers is for a Whirlpool Duet. Any thoughts or other suggestions? The machines will be in the kitchen as well. Thank you.

Post# 506453 , Reply# 1   3/24/2011 at 12:33 (4,861 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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me i would recommend going with a topload washer as they cost lest when it comes to bying and depending on your needs as well like this whirlpool.

Post# 506472 , Reply# 2   3/24/2011 at 13:29 (4,861 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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The Duet is a nice washer and dryer and uses much LESS energy and water to get up to 23 pounds of laundry done. It will also save money on using the dryer because of its high speed spin.So,it pays to go w/front loaders.Leave the door open when not in use.

Post# 506487 , Reply# 3   3/24/2011 at 14:48 (4,861 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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I would check into this Kenmore or the Frigidaire series....hit the sale right, and you can get the washer and dryer for under 800.00 or less......pedestal is optional

uses plenty of water, nice capacities.....proven more reliable than most....

best thing is you can build a fake cabinet around these to hide them when not in use, or just add the counter top for more space.....


Post# 506491 , Reply# 4   3/24/2011 at 15:06 (4,861 days old) by 3beltwesty ()        

A token combo of top loader and dryer at Home depot only costs 498 bucks for both and they deliver here on Saturdays too for free. You can make a image so the washer looks like a front loader to please your green friends.

Post# 506498 , Reply# 5   3/24/2011 at 15:33 (4,861 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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front load washer if there is a spot for a built in dishwasher you can also have it look like the washer is built in the cabinet and if you don't went someone to see the washer you can also hide it with a curtain but it also depends on your budget and the price you went to pay have a look at this link and a pic of the washer this model also have a water heater to heat the water if needed.

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Post# 506607 , Reply# 6   3/24/2011 at 22:25 (4,861 days old) by powerfin64 (Yakima, Washington)        

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I would look into the whirlpool duet. Most front loading washing machines are fairly quiet, and stylish. I would not recommend placing it in a dishwasher slot and covering it up with a curtain, as someone else suggested, would be very tacky.
Sounds like money and energy savings could be on your road ahead, use that to your advantage if I were you.

Post# 506608 , Reply# 7   3/24/2011 at 22:36 (4,861 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii)        

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Top loading agitator washers may be less to buy but eat up more of your hard earned money because they use 3 times more water,3 times more detergent,bleach and fabric softener and almost 3 times more electricity to run than a front loader that not only uses a lot less water,additives and electricity but will wash items you'd never think of washing in a machine like tennis shoes,pillows,sleeping bags,tents,area rugs,stuffed toy animals and queen to king size bedspreads.Cleaner clothes,less ware and tare,less water,less energy and better loaders are easy to overload where as a front loader has a special angled/recessed window.If you have overloaded them,the door won't close and it will not come on. No transmission means less possible breakage.Either direct drive or belt drive and a hell of a lot quieter than any top loading washer.I am seeing some of the Whirlpool Duets for $499/washer and $499 electric dryer.

Post# 506618 , Reply# 8   3/25/2011 at 01:10 (4,861 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I'm a convert to the Duet, can't really say anything bad about them. Quite, do a great job, use little water and energy, all around winner...

Post# 506685 , Reply# 9   3/25/2011 at 09:14 (4,860 days old) by 3beltwesty ()        

With renting a house one has to ask how long are you going to live there.

One can buy the starter 498 set and have it delivered and leave it there once you leave in 1 to 5 years; or spend 2 grand and deal with moving the washer and dryer too.

A rental situation adds an extra component compared buying one for ones own house.

In California in the bay area 498 bucks can be a weeks rent on a house, thus nothing in a few years. ie like in the noise as cost.

Post# 506738 , Reply# 10   3/25/2011 at 12:25 (4,860 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        

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Plus, moving a FL washer from home to home will shorten its life unless done with kit gloves!



Post# 506774 , Reply# 11   3/25/2011 at 14:01 (4,860 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        
Plus, moving a FL washer from home to home will shorten its

Who says that?! Just put back the transit bolts and you're done!

@ 3beltwesty "You can make a image so the washer looks like a front loader to please your green friends."
...offensive as usual

Post# 506776 , Reply# 12   3/25/2011 at 14:04 (4,860 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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and you also need to know that before moving a front loading washer you need to call a service tech that will prepare the washer for the move as moving a front loader is not like moving a toploading washer like for exemple you rent the house for a year and after a year you decide to move aka because of your job or you went a bigger house because of lack of space you need to think about this closely about this as well because 1 mistake and it can not only shorten your front load washer but it might get damage beyond repair me when i move in the condo i live in today i had a topload 93 inglis whirlpool superb2 washer and matching dry this is a pic that i saved from cl as i no longer have this set the bleach dispenser was damage during the move 1 and then a few weeks later the motor burn out and needed to have on this wahser the timer knob to be fix in a way it shorten its life use because in 2004 i have to repalce the washer it was near 8 to 10 years of use.

Post# 506779 , Reply# 13   3/25/2011 at 14:09 (4,860 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
you need to call a service tech that will prepare the washer


You reattach the transit bolts (which just screw into the holes at the back in the vast majority of cases)

Then the machine is free to be moved as much as you like!

The myths about front loading washers given by some top-loader fanatics never cease to amaze me!


Post# 506781 , Reply# 14   3/25/2011 at 14:13 (4,860 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I've often moved frontloaders even without the transit bolts. Nothing wrong happened to the washers as long as you do it with some care.

Post# 506782 , Reply# 15   3/25/2011 at 14:15 (4,860 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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us and canadian front loaders are not the same thing when it comes to transit bolt once remove from a canadian or us machine the actual transit bolts can not be reuse in the case of the whirlpool duet this must be done by a whirlpool service tech says so in the insturction manuel i know as i was the one that install my duet washer in 2004 and read the install manuel and it clearly stated not to reuse the actual transit bolt for moving a washer. well this was my 2 cent in this topic

Post# 506784 , Reply# 16   3/25/2011 at 14:21 (4,860 days old) by hoover1100 (U.K.)        
Well if you can't fit the transit bolts back in

for whatever reason, and are worried about moving the machine without them.

Take the top off and pack a thick duvet or quilt or something round the tub, which will stop it moving around too much during transport.

Problem solved


Post# 506791 , Reply# 17   3/25/2011 at 14:40 (4,860 days old) by 3beltwesty ()        

Rent in San Jose for an apartment or house is such a starter washer and dryer top load is 7 days rent; thus a 500 buck combo is 2 percent of one's rent in a year.

If one worked in High Tech like I did in California, often it is easier to just buy and leave the appliance when one moves again, since its cost is trivial compared to ones rent.

How "good" an appliance one should buy while renting depends on ones time might spend there paying a landlord.

Unless one knows the time horizon of how long one is going to rent or stay in the bay area, it really is hard to say whether to buy a 2K washer or a 250 buck washer.

Post# 506795 , Reply# 18   3/25/2011 at 14:48 (4,860 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
fact about appliance today

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here is a fact about appliance today most seller that lives in eather canada or the us when they sell there homes they are selling there homes with the appliance included including the washer and dryer as they prefer to buy a new set for there new homes rather than moving there old set.

Post# 506813 , Reply# 19   3/25/2011 at 16:25 (4,860 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
You beat me to it Matt

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Transit bolts/bars are generally a doddle to re-insert.


...and Pierre....I agree that the Whirlpool manual says to 'call service' when you want to reinstall the transport bolts, but lets be honest challenging do you think it is to do?


...and your comment that 'they cannot be reused' is a complete fabrication. Nowhere in the Whirlpool manual does it say that. In fact, I bet if you were to ring and ask to have the machine 'prepared for moving', the first thing the tech would ask is 'have you got the shipping bolts?' way of comparison, the Frigidaire manual says to 'retain the bolts for use in the future' I will lay odds, all Electrolux machines do (my European ones certainly do)...and Miele used to have storage clips for them on the machine. 


The only machine I have ever had a challenge getting them back into was my Australian made Hoover Electra (which looked similar to the British ones from the early 1980's). They were 2 ft bars that needed the top of the drum pushed down to allow alignment of the holes with the base of the machine....but, as Matt said, a couple of old pillows or a duvet around the drum/sides of the machine and it's sorted.



Post# 506822 , Reply# 20   3/25/2011 at 16:40 (4,860 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

ronhic's profile picture doesn't mention anything in their user manuals about getting a tech to reinstall them...just that, in relation to transporting the machine - 6. Fit transport bolts (obligatory)



Post# 506829 , Reply# 21   3/25/2011 at 16:57 (4,860 days old) by 3beltwesty ()        

With transporting the old 1947 and 1976 westys; there was just a mess of 3/8" / 10mm rods one placed to hold the tub to the frame

With the new 2010 LG FL washer; there are 4 bolts that are in plastic sleeves that go through the washers back into the giant ears on the plastic tub. One removes these on install and replaces them on moving. They are simple to screw in. One has to move the tub to get the first one and two in place; then the other 2 are easy.

Post# 506837 , Reply# 22   3/25/2011 at 17:31 (4,860 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        

ronhic's profile picture's easy.

Post# 506890 , Reply# 23   3/25/2011 at 22:49 (4,860 days old) by zipdang (Portland, OR)        

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We have a KitchenAid Ensemble washer and dryer, which are Duet clones. The delivery people didn't leave the original shipping bolts when they installed the washer so I cannot attest to whether they are resusable or not. However, when we moved last year I ordered replacement shipping bolts and they were very easy to install ourselves. No service tech required. :)

Post# 506897 , Reply# 24   3/26/2011 at 01:09 (4,860 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

I moved my Duet without any bolts. Bought it used and had to pick it up and move it to my basement. It did bounce around a bit, more than it should have. End result was one of the struts came apart. Really no big deal, just tilt the machine back far enough and shift the tub and it drops back in. IF I had the shipping bolts, fine, but it you are moderately gentle with it, it can easily be moved. Real life takes precedence over the manual's directions....

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