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Thread Number: 34774
Whirlpool Dishwasher Fill Valve Failed |
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| Post# 521216 , Reply# 1 5/29/2011 at 06:41 (4,716 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Here is the floor about 2 hours after having a fan on it... the finish had lifted and flaked off... 
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| Post# 521217 , Reply# 2 5/29/2011 at 06:42 (4,716 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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1 day after... with dishwasher removed. 
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| Post# 521218 , Reply# 3 5/29/2011 at 06:45 (4,716 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Beautiful... 
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| Post# 521220 , Reply# 4 5/29/2011 at 06:47 (4,716 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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I think I can get replacement flooring, this is standard size and Maple. The entire floor has to be sanded and refinished though... after 4 years of being installed. Sigh! 
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| Post# 521222 , Reply# 6 5/29/2011 at 06:50 (4,716 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Post# 521249 , Reply# 8 5/29/2011 at 09:15 (4,716 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WP , KA AND KM DWs MADE BY WP All these tall tub models are experiencing a high rate of this type of failure. If you can find a new valve for $25 let me know where, they are usually $60-70. It also looks like you my have a dip-tube failing in your water heater, that may be what all that white stuff is in the screen. Sorry about your floor damage, but this is why I would never put a wood floor in a kitchen, I see this type of damage several times pre week at my customers homes. I am surprised that insurance companies don't refuse to pay for floor damage to wood floors in kitchens and bathrooms. A wood floor should never be installed in a built up fashion in front of refrigerators [ even if they don't have ice-makers, they still can and do leak ] DWs and even sink cabinets. | ||
| Post# 521276 , Reply# 10 5/29/2011 at 12:32 (4,715 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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It looks like you have a high calcium level in your water. Be happy that you had true hardwood floors instead of that laminate stuff. If you had, you probably would be replacing the entire kitchen floor! Laminate & water definitely don't mix! | ||
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Post# 521287 , Reply# 11 5/29/2011 at 13:59 (4,715 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 The RepairClinic link lists the part number under their stock/item number, not the manuf part number. Looked up the model DU1055XTSB2 at SearsPartsDirect, which does include the manuf part number as 8563405 @ $38.85. PartsTap.com carries it for $20.88 (shipping $6.50). Part # W10158387 (8563405) at PartsTap.com (Whirlpool part W10158387 at RepairClinic brings up the same item # 1481084 as your link) AppliancePartsPros.com lists it for $20.86 | ||
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Post# 521303 , Reply# 12 5/29/2011 at 16:06 (4,715 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Sand and pebbles on tap. How awful, I've seen this same trouble before with the WP d/w's and have heard of several LG's & others that drip water from the circulation pump seal that makes a slow-death for wood floors.
Looks like a water softener would be a good investment once this trouble is over! Recent water quality report in our MUD bill listed hardness at an average of 9-13 grains through the 2010 year. The time of year and where your water comes from (either the Missouri river, Platte River, wells, etc.) can make these numbers worse. Sarpy County seems to have worse trouble with water as most of theirs is drawn from the Platte R. or wells, my parents in Gretna had theirs tested when they moved and it came out at 17 grains. I had a Culligan water softener for a while that recharged whether it needed it or not and that pitiful thing used 3 bags of salt a month. Now I have a GE softener I bought at Sam's with demand-recharge and low water & salt cycling so we only use 1/2 to 1 bag each month. With all the vintage machines as a priority plus all the other benefits, it was a money saving investment in the long run. I think it was around $350 or so, plus install but it looks like you're handy enough to get that done :-) | ||
| Post# 521337 , Reply# 14 5/29/2011 at 19:11 (4,715 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Danger my ass... more like danger to my wood floor! 
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| Post# 521339 , Reply# 15 5/29/2011 at 19:12 (4,715 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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All clean 
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| Post# 521340 , Reply# 16 5/29/2011 at 19:13 (4,715 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 521341 , Reply# 17 5/29/2011 at 19:14 (4,715 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Cap (Yes I discharged it before tinkering) 
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| Post# 521342 , Reply# 18 5/29/2011 at 19:16 (4,715 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Thermistor (Black Tip) and Soil Sensor lower bulb and eye I guess... 
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| Post# 521343 , Reply# 19 5/29/2011 at 19:18 (4,715 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Heater holes and wash pack sealing surfaces super clean before reinstall. 
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| Post# 521370 , Reply# 20 5/29/2011 at 22:36 (4,715 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
I have that SAME dishwasher (white)
Bought in April 2005. I came across this thread and it's funny because I have my water bill on the desk right beside me and it has the water quality report. I've never really known how hard the water was here in Lexington. It comes from the KY river (I think) and it says that the hardness levels leaving the water treatment plants in 2010 ranged from 52 (soft) to 450 ppm (very hard) or 3.0 to 26.3 grains per gallon....I'm thinking Lexington is on the high end of that........
Andrew.....You've taken that entire dishwasher apart. You seem to know WAY more than I do about repairing and DIY | ||
| Post# 521379 , Reply# 21 5/30/2011 at 00:20 (4,715 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
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| Post# 521380 , Reply# 22 5/30/2011 at 00:45 (4,715 days old) by A440 () | ||
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That's a lot of work. You must really like this machine.... Brent | ||
| Post# 521538 , Reply# 24 5/30/2011 at 20:35 (4,714 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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| Post# 521739 , Reply# 27 6/1/2011 at 02:03 (4,713 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Me 2
I'm weird about that too. Everything is Whirlpool here. Not by my choice....It's what the builder used..But I hated the dishwasher so I sold and got a new WP dishwasher when I moved in.....I think for some strange reason it would REALLY annoy me to have mismatched brands, even though it's silly when you think about it...
PS......You know what I did like the first month of living here? I was looking under the above the range microwave and unscrewed the bulb the WRONG way and it broke off into the outlet.....The light has never worked since. I was so Pissed at myself. I can't believe I did that. | ||
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Post# 521853 , Reply# 31 6/1/2011 at 18:46 (4,712 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Andrew-- I completely understand your desire to move on to a new machine. I had a wonderful TOL Maytag dishwasher that cleaned like a champ, but after an electrical failure in it filled my kitchen with smoke, I had it repaired (the machine had a recall on it), then promptly sold it and got a TOL LG, which is the best dishwasher I've ever owned. Unfortunately, unlike new LG washers, their dishwashers are notoriously unreliable. Mine has had 2-1/2 years of very hard use, and so far no problems, knock wood.
Anyway, I simply didn't trust the Maytag, anymore. (This was a pre-Whirlpool Maytag). Your new Whirlpool looks great. I've always liked machines that offer an alternative to putting the silverware in the bottom rack. My LG has a cutlery/silverware rack, which leaves all that cavernous space open in the bottom rack. I had a portable Whirlpool from 1986-89 with the silverware rack in the door. It was a good dishwasher, but I didn't like the tower in the center of the bottom rack. Let us know how you like it, and post photos when the newbie arrives. I recently steered some friends to a new Whirlpool and they love it. | ||
| Post# 521863 , Reply# 32 6/1/2011 at 19:30 (4,712 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
well for me it my 5 year with my kenmore diswasher and i can say that i am very satisfy with this model and when it go i would buy the same model and my brother bought for him and is girlfriend the whirlpool dishwasher you bough and i can say he is very satisfy with it as well. Sorry if the picture is a bit blurry
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| Post# 521915 , Reply# 33 6/2/2011 at 04:46 (4,712 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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At least you're upgrading to the stainless interior
My next DW will have two things that my current one doesn't 1) Stainless interior 2) Fold down tines As for hard water stains showing on the stainless interior. I think you can use Lemishine (citric acid) or white vinegar to get rid of it. But you're getting a water softener so I guess that won't be an issue I've never had a water softener anywhere I've ever lived. Perhaps our water isn't as hard here as I think, but it is hard. I can't use tap water with my ultrasonic humidifier.....White dust EVERYWHERE.......And if I use the heated humidifier with one use there is caked on white crud on the metal part that heats the water........I honestly don't think I've ever been to anyone's house here in Lexington that has a water softener.........I wonder why? I guess they are for extreme hard water conditions only? Oh wait. I take that back. I remember being in Greenville OH with a friend and we went to their aunt's house, she had a huge basement and she was a total HOARDER....It looked like a grocery store down there, and I remember seeing a water softener among the thousands of products. | ||
| Post# 521942 , Reply# 34 6/2/2011 at 09:00 (4,712 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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I'm excited for the new one to come. I'm going to be picking out a Water Softener this week as well. Need to do some research on them. Will probably be using potasium vs salt though. | ||
| Post# 523302 , Reply# 36 6/8/2011 at 09:15 (4,706 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 523303 , Reply# 37 6/8/2011 at 09:20 (4,706 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 524531 , Reply# 39 6/14/2011 at 20:30 (4,699 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom) | ||
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@Mark_wpduet ive got an ultrasonic humidifier qnd i uset normal tap water, the tank scales up but i dont have the legendery lime scae dust issue | ||
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Post# 524532 , Reply# 40 6/14/2011 at 21:03 (4,699 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie) |
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Andrew, you're going to love having softened water---for bathing, laundry, and automatic dishwshing. One side effect of mechanically softened water: Laundry detergents don't rinse out as well as they do in hard water. I've learned to live with a bit of suds in the final rinse. But that minor trade-off is well worth all the positives!
Sorry to hear about your bashed up dishwasher. Hopefully the next one will arrive unscathed! | ||
| Post# 524710 , Reply# 42 6/15/2011 at 16:53 (4,698 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
convertable 
I found two Sears Kenmore (made by Whirlpool ten to fifteen years ago)one black and the other white. The black one was used but in fair condition. When I connected the unicouple, no water entered the cavity but,the solinoid worked. I could here the buzz sound. I disconnected the inlet hose underneath and found this horrific gook that built up and clogged the filter screen. I used a straight screwdriver and an exacto knife to scrub and scrape the residue off. once I did that and reconnected the intake hose, it worked fine. Now, I check the intake on a month to month basis.
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| Post# 525701 , Reply# 43 6/20/2011 at 00:53 (4,694 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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I wonder how this stuff builds up in dishwashers with all that extreme hot water and detergent splashing and going through everything?
Interestingly enough (KNOCK ON WOOD) any place I have ever lived the dishwasher has never gone out. Growing up (GE push to the sink dishwasher) Grandma Whirlpool 1983 I think.....She passed away 2 years ago and now her home is rented and it's still working Lived in Knoxville for a year and there was a Magic Chef dishwasher from 1995 to 1996 and I hated that Dishwasher, but it worked Moved to Lex in 1996 and there was a mid 90s Kenmore, worked great. Rented another house from 1997 to 2000, another Kenmore, worked great. Another apartment from 2002 to 2004, a GE that looked to be from the 80s, worked good, no issues. My current home a whirlpool (like Andrew's) that is still going.....though it will make a grinding sound while washing periodically, but it always goes away for a few months, then will make that grinding sound again for a bit, then it goes away. Andrew, has your new DW arrived yet? Hopefully you won't have any issues this time. | ||
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Post# 525725 , Reply# 44 6/20/2011 at 06:28 (4,694 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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WP DW WITH PERIODIC GRINDING NOISE | ||
| Post# 526347 , Reply# 48 6/22/2011 at 22:27 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526348 , Reply# 49 6/22/2011 at 22:29 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526350 , Reply# 50 6/22/2011 at 22:29 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526351 , Reply# 51 6/22/2011 at 22:30 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526352 , Reply# 52 6/22/2011 at 22:31 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526353 , Reply# 53 6/22/2011 at 22:32 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526354 , Reply# 54 6/22/2011 at 22:33 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526355 , Reply# 55 6/22/2011 at 22:35 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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| Post# 526357 , Reply# 56 6/22/2011 at 22:37 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Here are the 2 slots on the top side of the dispenser when the door is closed. Allows water to fill the main wash dispenser. 
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| Post# 526358 , Reply# 57 6/22/2011 at 22:39 (4,691 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Here is the last shot. Floor didn't turn out as well as I wanted, but it looks better than it did. Eventually will strip, sand, and refinish the entire kitchen floor. 
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| Post# 526547 , Reply# 60 6/23/2011 at 19:15 (4,690 days old) by vacfanatic () | ||
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Post# 526617 , Reply# 61 6/24/2011 at 07:43 (4,690 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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SLOTS IN THE MAIN WASH CUP I would keep an eye on how well that works as it looks like it may allow the detergent to wash out too soon. I would wait for the lid to open and see if your detergent is still there. KA tried this nonsense to improve rinsing on the later KD24 machines where they removed the det disp gasket from the lid of the DD at the factory. At first we thought they had just been left off, but then they told us that it had been done on purpose to solve other washability problems they were having. Then when the inside of the DWs starting developing a white film and the dishes had the same film on them they started selling us the gaskets that they removed and suggesting that they be installed.
But in any case I would keep a good eye on the DWs performance, however now that you have soft water it will probably be much better than the last one. I hate to sound like old timer but having had a TT KA DW and a TT WPDW and a TT GE DW installed in my kitchen I will never have one again. They just don't do the job that the standard machine does. Yesterday I installed two the the standard KM ultra DWs, we buy about a dozen per month and I guess when WP stops making them I will stop selling DWs and let it be someone else's headache
The frist one we installed replaced a 12 year old hi end black MT that leaked so long after the botched attempt at the RA dispenser recall that the motor was finally ruined. Good thing the customers kitchen was on a concert slab or the floor would have been destroyed. The 2nd KM UW DW we installed replaced a 1976 KDS-18 its a little tired and will get parted out and scraped, it does have nice brushed chrome panels on it if anyone wants to go SS with thier KD 18-23 DW let me know. | ||
| Post# 526622 , Reply# 62 6/24/2011 at 09:00 (4,690 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
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Oh cool!
You finally got it! LMAO..........You didn't wash dishes for three weeks..... It looks GREAT! I like it Gosh, I was kind of hoping they redesigned that detergent/rinse aid dispenser. I haven't been able to use Rinse aid for the past two years because it leaks down the door...When I googled that problem a LOT of hits came up, so I thought it was a design issue. Mine didn't start leaking until year 4. | ||
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