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Thread Number: 3501
Re: New Kenmore HE-2 Washer & Dryers: |
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Post# 86471 , Reply# 1 10/2/2005 at 03:13 (6,781 days old) by foraloysius  (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Here's the link to the HE2 on the Sears website. The main picture doesn't work, but if you click on Photo Gallery you can see ten pictures. Nice looking machines, but I hate those black windows.
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Post# 86484 , Reply# 2 10/2/2005 at 08:18 (6,781 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ) |
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The main picture doesn't work | ||
| Post# 86487 , Reply# 3 10/2/2005 at 08:31 (6,781 days old) by mayken4now (Panama City, Florida) | ||
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Post# 86544 , Reply# 4 10/2/2005 at 14:17 (6,780 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 86570 , Reply# 6 10/2/2005 at 18:05 (6,780 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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IIRC Whirlpool 
Is behind this as they are introducing a smaller version of the "Duet/HE" series. Currently Whirlpool does not have a small front loader in their line up and obviously they wised up to the fact not every one has room for a huge front loader. Whirlpool's current small front loader is a rebadged Servis (IIRC), and is supposedly NOT very well built. Whirlpool had stated this was a temporary set up until they could begin production in Mexico of the smaller units. Do not know if Whirlpool has a plant south of the border for these units, or if they are rebadged. My guess is since Kenmore is buying the same units from Whirlpool, the factory is Whirlpool's. As for an internal heater, the current small Whirlpool does have one, but water temps are set by cycle. In other words if one choses "Cottons/Sturdy" one gets hot water. "Delicates" is cold, and so on. You cannot simply choose cottons and warm water, for instance. If these new "HE2" models are built on the same platform, then expect the same. Mind you many laundromat washers have water temps set by cycle, but I prefer a tad more flexibility in laundry appliances. Launderess | ||
| Post# 86671 , Reply# 8 10/3/2005 at 06:36 (6,780 days old) by spiraclean (UK) | ||
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Post# 86688 , Reply# 9 10/3/2005 at 07:50 (6,780 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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I just saw these at Sears yesterday. I couldn't get a good look at them "up close and personal" because there was a family there who looked to be ready to buy so I stepped out of the way and just listened. Aside from cringing at some of the nonsense the saleslady was spouting, she did a fairly good job. The customers seemed to be quite impressed with the price point ($799 for washer, as above) versus the HE4 series and the Maytag import machine. What I thought was most interesting was that the drum isn't tilted at an angle like the TOL models. They didn't have any literature on them and I haven't checked out the website for stats and figures but they do look like a strong competitor to the Frigemore models. The capacity ratings are quite interesting, I was amused at the new baffles in the HE4 series drum - I hadn't noticed them before! | ||
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Post# 86802 , Reply# 11 10/3/2005 at 17:22 (6,779 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Strange thing | ||
| Post# 86806 , Reply# 12 10/3/2005 at 17:45 (6,779 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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It seems to be a pattern with Whirlpool. WP released the calypso first through sears and the catalyst also first through sears. Not to mention the Hetties were first also. | ||
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Post# 86827 , Reply# 13 10/3/2005 at 20:10 (6,779 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Brent | ||
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Post# 86843 , Reply# 14 10/3/2005 at 21:05 (6,779 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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Cimberlie, WP pretty much uses Sears as it's product launch/testing ground for its products. Like mentioned above, this also included the new Tall Tub dishwashers. The original UltraWash (PowerClean) design Sears was used as initial launch back in 1982 or 1983. Also the TurboZone feature first came out with Seaers. Now KitchenAid has it in their two highest end models. One exception comes to mind, the Whirlpool Polaris range.
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Post# 86847 , Reply# 15 10/3/2005 at 21:13 (6,779 days old) by dadoes (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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| Post# 86852 , Reply# 16 10/3/2005 at 21:26 (6,779 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
I will bet you this is the same machine as the new stackable 3.3 cu ft Maytag Neptunes.They are made by Samsung and have a 3.3 cu ft capacity in the washer and a 7 cu ft capacity matching dryer.The dryer has a white interior.We just got them in @ The Homo Depot.The washer retails for $899 and the dryer retails for $699.I am off tomorrow.I'll go to Sears at the mall up the street and check them out.
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Post# 86905 , Reply# 17 10/4/2005 at 03:11 (6,779 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Launderess, The little Whirlpool machine is from Antonio Merloni, so similar to the Servis machines. In Italy they are sold under the Ardo label. Other names they have in Europe are Baumatic, Edy and EBD and perhaps even some others. The Indesit company makes Indesit, Ariston, Hotpoint and Scholtès appliances. There is no connection to the Whirlpool machine. Louis | ||
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Post# 86951 , Reply# 18 10/4/2005 at 11:11 (6,779 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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The new HE2 washer is assembled in Mexico with German parts. Dryer was listed at 6.5 cu ft, but obviously both were WP products. I did a double-take when I saw them, thought they might be Elux products, but on closer inspection the door hinges and boot, drum and the dryer features scream Whirlpool, not Asian made.
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| Post# 87036 , Reply# 19 10/4/2005 at 20:19 (6,778 days old) by laundromat (Hilo, Hawaii) | ||
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| Post# 87119 , Reply# 20 10/5/2005 at 07:25 (6,778 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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The washer wars are on!!....GO WHIRLPOOL!!!! | ||
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Post# 87233 , Reply# 21 10/5/2005 at 17:18 (6,777 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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| Post# 87280 , Reply# 22 10/5/2005 at 21:04 (6,777 days old) by brent-aucoin () | ||
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Jon, I am going to go check them out. I stopped by a Sears on my way home from work, and there was no He2's. I will give you my report when I see them. In the meantime, I don't think that Whirlpool would let Electrolux build a machine for them. Brent | ||
| Post# 87907 , Reply# 25 10/9/2005 at 17:06 (6,773 days old) by agiflow () | ||
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First post wouldn't come through...sorry about that. | ||
| Post# 87908 , Reply# 26 10/9/2005 at 17:28 (6,773 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
LG in Titanium | ||
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Post# 88350 , Reply# 27 10/11/2005 at 20:32 (6,771 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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HE-2 Washer 
I did view the new HE-2 Washer today at Sears. I wasen't impressed. I did feel the door was made of better quality and seemed to be more durable than others. It still bothers me that Sears uses that F---en tinted glass on the door. It's like hello we want to see what is going on inside! For that matter I recommend the Frigmore for 100 less and a bigger drum also you get more cycles and can see whats going on. Peter | ||
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Post# 88379 , Reply# 28 10/11/2005 at 22:27 (6,771 days old) by nurdlinger (Tucson AZ) |
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As for Sears and the Frigmore...
On Sunday I met Ross (Westyslantfront) and we went to Sears. The HE2 machines occupied the prominent place on the sales floor where my 44092/84092 pair had been in June when I was washer shopping. The 84092 dryer was still on sale, but on an outside aisle not near its brethren. The 44092 washer was not present anywhere. The next-model-down 44052/44152/44252 washer and the dryer-without-a-window 84052/84152/84252 were there in the same spot they had been in June. If you want the TOL Frigmore you need to go someplace else.
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Post# 88893 , Reply# 30 10/14/2005 at 16:31 (6,768 days old) by launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage) |
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Front loading washing machines, by nature of their design have always been expensive to produce relative to top loaders. In places like Europe and the UK where front loaders are the main type of washing machines sold, costs can be recouped so better designed/built units are IMHO easily found. Mind you there are some bottom of the barrel units to be found also. What Amercians have been offered are front loaders designed with a life span in keeping with the "use them and trash them" mentality many consumers have towards appliances. Unlike commercial front loaders which feature easily repairable/replace parts like bearings, drums, pumps and so one, American domestic front loaders seem to be loaded with cheap plastic parts, and built in such way that replacing one bad part is not possible because it is part of an assembly. Case in point would be the FriGeMore models with bearing problems. In a good front loader replacing the bearing is a common enough thing as the bearing, inner and outer tubs are all individual parts. Electrolux decided that on their models the bearing is part of the SS inner tub, and plastic outer tub. The idea in case of failure is to change the entire drum assembly. Well the cost of something like that easily equals the replacment value of a new machine, so the old machine goes to the scrap heap, and a new one is purchased. We have been looking for larger front loader for ages now, and nothing really looks promising. The only bright spot is Speed Queen's front loaders. Despite the limited cycle range and length, these units will literally bury their light weight competitors. In fact spoke with SQ a few weeks ago, and they indicated changes to the front loader were coming but won't arrive until about 2007. What will be new? More user flexibility in terms of cycles and perhaps a few more goodies. Miele of course is still the gold standard in terms of front loaders, but their price, small capacity and 220v electrical requirements make them a hard sell for some. Whirlpool's Duet/HE series (with the exception of the new HE2 line), seem to have a good reputation, but again lots of plastic. If you want a really solidly built front loader, look around for a used small (18lb) commercial unit. These units, like the SQ will outlast almost anything else on the market. Launderess | ||
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