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2-Piece Direct Drive Super Straight-Vane Agitator
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Post# 525010   6/17/2011 at 01:48 (4,752 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

I'm looking for the gray 2 piece straight vane agitator for my Whirlpool Gold washer. This 2 piecer is connected by 2 screws and a nut bolt. I call it "super" straight vane because these flex vanes are 1/2" longer than the 1 piece agitator. I'm willing to trade two 8/4 (wavy/straight vane) Heavy Duty Super Surgilator and Surgilator agitators for it or buy it from you. Here is a top-side view picture of it...




Post# 525039 , Reply# 1   6/17/2011 at 07:35 (4,752 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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I think these pop up on Ebay every once in a while. If I see one, I'll send you the link.

Malcolm


Post# 525071 , Reply# 2   6/17/2011 at 10:41 (4,752 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Awesome, I'd appreciate that.

Post# 525075 , Reply# 3   6/17/2011 at 11:13 (4,752 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
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Here is the similar model in white. Vanes look a bit shorter.

Malcolm


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Post# 525076 , Reply# 4   6/17/2011 at 11:16 (4,752 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Or this one...

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Post# 525210 , Reply# 5   6/18/2011 at 00:05 (4,751 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Thanks Malcolm, these two models are the 1-piece design. This is the one I have...

Post# 525244 , Reply# 6   6/18/2011 at 04:06 (4,751 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Scrubflex, The commercial maypool,  may have what you are looking for.  Its been a while but i think someone posted one that was actually black in color.  I am uncertain, but the pic you posted made me think of that. Try searcholator. alr2903


Post# 525245 , Reply# 7   6/18/2011 at 04:12 (4,751 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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that kinds of look like the dual actio agi that we see in most direct drive washer since the dual action is also a 2 pice agitator lol

Post# 525418 , Reply# 8   6/18/2011 at 19:22 (4,750 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Alr2903, what or who is the "commercial maypool"? And, I've never seen any of the DD agitators in black.

Post# 525420 , Reply# 9   6/18/2011 at 19:34 (4,750 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        

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to explain its the new maytag centinial washer made by whirlpool


Post# 525425 , Reply# 10   6/18/2011 at 20:26 (4,750 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Thanks, I figured as much. I'm going to take a look-see at that.

Post# 525426 , Reply# 11   6/18/2011 at 20:33 (4,750 days old) by limitededition ()        
large fins

I have only seen the large fins at the top on commerial machines. Those fins are lt least twice as big as the ones shown in the picture

Post# 525427 , Reply# 12   6/18/2011 at 20:47 (4,750 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Do you have any model numbers of the maypool commercial machines. I can Google search the washer agitator parts.

Post# 525428 , Reply# 13   6/18/2011 at 20:51 (4,750 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
This One?

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You mean this one?

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Post# 525432 , Reply# 14   6/18/2011 at 21:30 (4,750 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

No, not that one Malcolm...the 2 piece is designed like the two models (top-to-bottom) you posted from ebay...with a few changes...the vanes on the upper column are slightly narrower than the 1 piece and the base vanes, longer.

Post# 525452 , Reply# 15   6/19/2011 at 00:34 (4,750 days old) by MaytagA710 ()        
Aggressiveness

I've heard lots of rumors that the super straight vane (as Harry calls it) is much more aggressive then the wavy-vane model (see link). I know they put the wavy-vane in the portable DD machines. But is the super-straight vanes much more aggressive (and really play into the shredmore moniker)?



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Post# 525506 , Reply# 16   6/19/2011 at 09:09 (4,750 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Hey MaytagA710, I have both of the Heavy Duty Super Surgilators for Super and Large Capacity tubs. The 5 and 4 (wavy/straight) vanes with flex-vanes. They're more aggressive because of the w/s vane combo. Being that the flex vanes of the super straight vane agitator are the same (design/length) as the HDSS's, the water surge from the bottom is as powerful. That 1/2" of length added to the flex-vane makes a difference.

Post# 525660 , Reply# 17   6/19/2011 at 19:51 (4,749 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        

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Scrubflex -

The biggest single difference that I can see between the one-piece Straight-Vane and the two piece appears to be the taper, or sweep of base fins on the two piece. Compare the top of the fins to the one-piece's fins. The one piece has a step-down notch on them, whereas the two-piece does not.

I believe the two-piece base is used on a number of agitators, including as you mentioned the WP Surgilators, and maybe even as a base for some DAs?

I remembered one model which is where I think I first noticed the two piece agitator on the Sears floor. Check parts direct for model number 110.92260100. This is the single speed, Super (aka Large) capacity 3.0 cu. ft. Kenmore 60 series washer from 1992 which had the two piece straight vane.

The parts drawing is odd as it shows two agitators, one being the top of your two-piece unit, and the other being a full single piece SV. The original part numbers don't point to a single piece SV however. This not the first time that I've seen slight inaccuracies in a Kenmore drawing, however it lists the screws you mention that hold the top and bottom parts together, as well it gives you all the original part numbers should you care to look for them on ebay.

I don't think this agitator was used very long - I didn't notice the taper of the vanes being different between the two SVs until this post, but I seem to recall the 60-series machines not selling well, then when Sears did offer a white on white model which did sell well a few years later (it sold by the truckload) they were equipped with the one-piece agitator.

Good luck!

Gordon




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Post# 525662 , Reply# 18   6/19/2011 at 20:02 (4,749 days old) by KenmoreGuy64 (Charlotte, NC)        
The agitator in Malcolm's most recent post....

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Part number 285622 is a fascinating agitator. Yes they were used largely in commercial washers, BUT it was standard in one BOL Roper washer that was available until just a year or so ago - RTW4000. This is the brushed aluminum panel, 24-inch wide one-knob wonder with one cycle, no water level selections, one speed, one temp (it had only a single solenoid mixing valve). I WOULD LOVE TO FIND ONE OF THESE TODAY. I should have grabbed one when I could last year when there were a few in stock in Metro Atlanta. Whirlpool offered a version of this machine for consumer sales also though I don't know exactly when. I found one on Craigslist last year that was made in 1995.

The fins on this agitator were nearly as large in surface area on the top as the bottom. I used two of these commercial machines last January on a Florida trip. It was hard to watch as the machine had that pesky habit of shutting off when I opened the lid, but in 15 second intervals, nothing was at the top of the basket that was there 15 seconds earlier.

Using this agitator in a large capacity machine or most any other home machine requires careful monitoring of the water level, as machines that use it fill about 2-inches short of the normal top fill, and water comes right up to the cap.

Gordon


Post# 525705 , Reply# 19   6/20/2011 at 01:18 (4,749 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Hey Gordon, the differences are slight, but that 1/2" of added length to the "tapered" flex-vane of the 2 piece "Super" Straight Vane agitator really creates a powerful rollover surge. Yesterday, I finally got my Whirlpool Gold working again. Had to replace the pump, if I'm not imaging things, it seems like it's working stronger than before. I was really WOWED from the water action. The first time I saw the 2 piece SSV was in a Estate washer I believe back in the late 80's at Sears...the one of my second agitator photo I posted. I was totally unaware that there was a 2 piece SV agitator that had the " step-down notch" flex vanes. Excuse my nuttiness, I measured the straight vanes from the 1 and 2 piece SV agitators. The 1 piece SV vanes are a little wider than the 2 piece and the step-down notch flex vane is shorter in length than the 2 piece tapered flex vane. I don't know why they would decrease the width of the 2 piece straight vanes since the bottom flex vanes were a longer.

Post# 525767 , Reply# 20   6/20/2011 at 10:10 (4,749 days old) by spookiness (Alexandria VA)        
Need Reference Guide

As a relative newbie to AW with a DD machine, I have always wished there was a thread or document (with photos) that explained all the different agitators for DD machines, with their relative strengths and weaknesses, and compatibility.

This would be an excellent idea for a "sticky" thread that contributors could add to and refine, but this forum platform doesn't have those.


Post# 525782 , Reply# 21   6/20/2011 at 10:49 (4,749 days old) by yogitunes (New Jersey)        

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Why not create your own....mix and match tops and bottoms....

for most DD, I use the ex-large blue base from a KitchenAid, and a white top from a Whirlpool, with a plain cap, FS dispenser is optional......I wished the base came in white too, but you never see it when its washing anyway......and if you want roll over, this is the base you want!


Post# 525945 , Reply# 22   6/20/2011 at 23:14 (4,748 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

Sure you can Spooki, I have a DD Triple-Action (spiral vane) and the Total Care (superflex vanes) agitator...mix-matched. Hi Yogi, that agitator is in white...try these part numbers...3950579 (3349582) and (3349583)...

Post# 527972 , Reply# 23   7/1/2011 at 00:59 (4,738 days old) by scrubflex (bronx, new york)        

So far, it's been totally impossible to find the gray, 2-piece straight vane with the "step-down notch" flex vane. Many appliance sites may have parts/numbers but, no photos to verify the agitator part...which sucks!!! A former AW.ORG club member (name), westytoploader gave this agitator to compactc9 for his Whirlpool washer.


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