Thread Number: 35608
New addition to the family: Westinghouse Commodore |
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Post# 531328   7/18/2011 at 08:08 (4,690 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 531329 , Reply# 1   7/18/2011 at 08:08 (4,690 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 531345 , Reply# 2   7/18/2011 at 10:02 (4,690 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)   |   | |
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Get a load of those fancy fronts on the oven racks. You are going to love the color rings around the lights! |
Post# 531370 , Reply# 3   7/18/2011 at 11:45 (4,690 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Post# 531375 , Reply# 4   7/18/2011 at 12:05 (4,690 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Post# 531377 , Reply# 5   7/18/2011 at 12:34 (4,690 days old) by Westie2 ()   |   | |
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Kevin this is all you need to finish out the Lucy set witht he stove. |
Post# 531392 , Reply# 7   7/18/2011 at 13:57 (4,690 days old) by luxflairguy (Wilmington NC)   |   | |
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Hey Pat! How about sharing that scan with the rest of us!! 50's Westinghouse is a "blast from the past!" |
Post# 531398 , Reply# 9   7/18/2011 at 14:18 (4,690 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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I'd estimate the steel gauge in those old Westys heavier than what's used in car bodies today. I'd also estimate it's a shade earlier than 1952. Lucy's was 1951 and more angular/less rounded. We had one just like it. Somehow mom turned the well burner on empty and melted the pan. Sounds more like something I'd do, but at that age I couldn't reach the knobs.
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Post# 531406 , Reply# 10   7/18/2011 at 14:37 (4,690 days old) by mixfinder ()   |   | |
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Kevin, how many ranges do you have and which among them are your favorites for cooking? |
Post# 531413 , Reply# 11   7/18/2011 at 15:43 (4,690 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)   |   | |
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Pat Coffey : THANK YOU for the scan of the Westinghouse product book!
The oven manual that was with the stove had a 1952 copyright on it - so I kind of figured that for the year of manufacture. Kelly - Here are the stoves I have (that I can recall): 1952 Norge 1952 Westinghouse 1952 Hotpoint Automatic 1953 Frigidaire Imperial 1954 Frigidaire Imperial 70 1955 Kelvinator 1956 Frigidaire (30" w/French doors) 1958 GE 1961 Westinghouse 1972 Crown 2000 Frigidaire Some of them have never been used, as I don't have a way to hook them all up. I'm going to start a rotation where I switch them out every six months or so. |
Post# 531430 , Reply# 13   7/18/2011 at 16:55 (4,689 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)   |   | |
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The GE and Hotpoint at the cottage are there by circumstance. When the compulsion came over me to start rescuing all these old stoves, those were the first two that I came across. One was $10 at a yard sale and the other was given to me. I actually built my kitchen shed at the cottage as a place to put and use the old Hotpoint (an idea I wish I had long before - it sure is nice on the hot summer days to have the stove outside the house!). They both do a very good job. All the burners work properly and the GE has one speed Calrod burner (right front) that heats water almost instantly - it really works great.
I grew up with electric stoves and learned how to cook on them. I can do fine with a gas range, but it always takes some getting used to. I do a lot of cooking for an old Polish church in Detroit and cook on a big SouthBend 8-burner, double oven with a griddle range. It is gas, of course, and I can cook on it without any trouble. That said, I take a real comfort in an electric range - I guess it's just what I'm used to. It's a bummer when the power goes out, however!! My mom and grandmother both had Frigidaire ranges (although my mom's first stove was a '55 Norge). My daily driver at home is a Frigidaire glass-top (purchased new in 2000) and it has never let me down. It bakes fairly evenly and maintains tempurature beautifully. I'm still not sure how I feel about the glass top, but it is easy to clean and serves as extra counter space when I'm not using it. So, do you prefer your controls on the back dash rather than in front? Interesting. I never thought much about it, but I always thought they moved the controls so kids wouldn't set the house on fire. I always thought that gas stoves would be better to have the knobs on the front, so when you turned a burner on you wouldn't burn your arm or set your shirt a blazin'....that polyester can go up like a matchstick ;-) The thing I like about the older Frigidaires is the wide radiantube elements. I think they provide more surface-to-surface contact and so maybe they would transfer the heat better and be more efficient. This Westinghouse I picked up over the weekend also has wider coils - not as wide as the Frigidaire, but wider than GE. They are Corax units. My Detroit kitchen doesn't have room for a 40, only a 30. One of these stoves is a 38 (that may be the Norge). For this reason, I tried to limit myself to only picking up 30's, but alas, I'm a sucker for a pretty face. |
Post# 531436 , Reply# 14   7/18/2011 at 17:24 (4,689 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Some of the new guys have never seen this monster before, 41 inches!! |
Post# 531438 , Reply# 15   7/18/2011 at 17:26 (4,689 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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That bake as good as anything I have ever seen. |
Post# 531439 , Reply# 16   7/18/2011 at 17:27 (4,689 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.)   |   | |
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Well Kevin if that is what the manual copyright said then you were right....oh and did you notice the 1951 version of your stove only had one oven.........I am glad you liked the rest of the manual I could not resist sharing it with you so you could see what you would need to have a complete Lucy Ricardo Westinghouse Ktichen..... PAT COFFEY |
Post# 531440 , Reply# 17   7/18/2011 at 17:27 (4,689 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Griddle! |
Post# 531482 , Reply# 19   7/18/2011 at 20:07 (4,689 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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To that Frigidaire, and most Westinghouses, is the seal around the door! It makes a big difference, that Frigidaire is beautiful!! |
Post# 531485 , Reply# 20   7/18/2011 at 20:11 (4,689 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 531523 , Reply# 22   7/18/2011 at 23:28 (4,689 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))   |   | |
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Post# 531627 , Reply# 23   7/19/2011 at 15:21 (4,689 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 531633 , Reply# 24   7/19/2011 at 15:43 (4,689 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 531636 , Reply# 25   7/19/2011 at 15:45 (4,689 days old) by peteski50 (New York)   |   | |
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Post# 531640 , Reply# 26   7/19/2011 at 15:59 (4,688 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Post# 531822 , Reply# 29   7/20/2011 at 14:40 (4,688 days old) by kevin313 (Detroit, Michigan)   |   | |
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I have never cooked on a coal or wood burning stove before. I'm sure it must be a trick to figure out how to regulate the tempuratures, but people figured it out somehow.
I don't know much about Detroit Jewel but I saw a lot of them growing up and there are still quite a few here in the area. Believe it or not, before becomming the automotive capital of the world, Detroit was actually the stove capital in the late 1800's and early 1900's. There were more than a dozen stove manufacturers here in Detroit, and Detroit Jewel was a product of one of them (it might have been Michigan Stove Works). Sounds like yours is still going strong!! |
Post# 531906 , Reply# 30   7/20/2011 at 20:49 (4,687 days old) by xraytech (Rural southwest Pennsylvania )   |   | |
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Post# 531952 , Reply# 33   7/21/2011 at 06:56 (4,687 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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As far as I know a subsiduary of Roper Co made all the Kenmore ranges, the griddle on the Norge is very similar, it has big flat prongs and plugs in just like an oven element. |
Post# 532162 , Reply# 34   7/22/2011 at 11:03 (4,686 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Thanks for all the good insight and cooking tips Hans, Kelly, and Kevin about using your electric ranges. I have found over the years that my customers that have been around awhile and are good cooks and have had both gas and electric ranges almost always come down on the side of cooking Electrically. The only real exception are the folks that have no mechanical sense of how things work, but these same people are usually not great bakers.
I consider the invention of the modern electric range to be one of the top 100 inventions of the last 100 years. It seems that almost everyday I am using a customers range to boil water to speed defrost broken refrigerators and the electric ones are just faster and they don't make the kitchen hot and smelly. I had to do one on Wednesday, two gas burners blazing trying to boil water in a condo kitchen with the A/C off and no effective exhaust fan. It was HOT but when you are getting paid good money you can put up with things that I would never do in my home.
I never fail to enjoy cooking on the 11 different burners in my kitchen and if you count the interchangeable cartridges for my Jenn-Air cook-top I have more than 20 different type burners to chose from european cast iron to induction but its hard to beat the sealed rod Calrod type elements. But no matter how you cut it we are a bunch of lucky guys and girls.
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Post# 532256 , Reply# 35   7/22/2011 at 20:03 (4,685 days old) by norgeway (mocksville n c )   |   | |
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Although I do like a gas oven, I dont want one in summer, and I never want to fool with the top burners again! |
Post# 532300 , Reply# 38   7/22/2011 at 23:53 (4,685 days old) by rp2813 (Sannazay)   |   | |
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Tom, you are remembering correctly. The outer coil stops glowing when switched to Med-Hi. Everything stops glowing when set to Med or lower. Even during that range's last days in this house before it got shipped off to Greg, I'd have races with the two small Corox elements to see which one got to full blown red glowing coils the fastest. I knew the outcome, because I put the fastest and strongest appearing burner at right front, which was the most often used unless a bigger pot or pan required using the 8" burner.
The deep well coil (the curly open type inside a clay plate) had issues for a long time, but still worked. Greg managed to get a guy out to fix it and advised that it can now boil water almost as fast as the Corox burners do.
Ralph |