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Post# 532730 7/25/2011 at 11:58 (4,656 days old) by cuffs054  (MONTICELLO, GA) |
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I can't figure out the Hot Start Option on my Nautilus. Manual claims that it "heats the wash water". But it drains just prior to the main wash. And since the first fill/drain is so short the detergent can't do much in that wash. So how does the Hot Start function? | ||
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| Post# 532765 , Reply# 1 7/25/2011 at 14:31 (4,656 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Good Question | ||
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Post# 532771 , Reply# 2 7/25/2011 at 15:21 (4,656 days old) by cuffs054 (MONTICELLO, GA) |
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Malcolm, Interesting idea. With the tank hot and dishes hot there would be less mass to heat up to temp. | ||
| Post# 532801 , Reply# 3 7/25/2011 at 18:28 (4,655 days old) by mixfinder () | ||
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Blowing Out the Lines It allows water entering the machine to release any cold standing in the supply and be sure hot water is available for the first wash. | ||
| Post# 532810 , Reply# 4 7/25/2011 at 19:05 (4,655 days old) by stainfighter (Columbia, SC) | ||
My experience...HOT start | ||
| Post# 532944 , Reply# 6 7/26/2011 at 15:14 (4,655 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 532958 , Reply# 8 7/26/2011 at 16:28 (4,655 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
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Hot Purge | ||
| Post# 533090 , Reply# 9 7/26/2011 at 22:46 (4,654 days old) by labboy (SD, CA) | ||
Agree about line purging. Almost all DW manuals and detergent instructions say to "let the water at the tap run hot before starting the machine".
I could see doing that in the day when cycle times were much shorter and many machines did not have heaters. On modern machines the cycle times are so long, even if one purges the line before starting, the water in the lines gets cool before the next fill. If they built a purge into the beginning of the cycle, it would affect their EnergyStar rating...God forbid they let that happen. | ||
| Post# 533095 , Reply# 10 7/26/2011 at 23:19 (4,654 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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not with my dishwasher and my dishwasher is a kenmore elite | ||
| Post# 533109 , Reply# 11 7/27/2011 at 01:19 (4,654 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea)) | ||
I have been 'hot starting' dishwashers since 1981. When I figured out that it took half a fill for the hot water to actually reach the DW. So I run the faucet until hot THEN start DW.
Doing that for every fill, even at my laid-back tank temp of 115F, the DW works great. If your heater temp is the DW-recommended 140F and half of it is slab temp (70F, summer), that's only 105F tub temp. Truly functional 'hot start' should run fill water down the drain until it reached at least 105F. I mean, what else is all this Star Trek sensor/computer nonsense good for? | ||
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Post# 533135 , Reply# 12 7/27/2011 at 07:54 (4,654 days old) by appliguy (Oakton Va.) |
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The hot start feature has nothing to do with purging the wat According to the owners manual for my 2009 GE Dishwasher, the hot start option is used when you have heavily soiled or dried on/baked on soils. It says it adds 20 minutes to the wash cycle when selected. I have used this feature many times and from what I have observed all it does is turn on the heating element during the pre rinses of the cycle you have chossen and heats the water to enhance the pre rinsing ability of the dishwasher. When I have used the hot start feature in conjunction with putting extra detergent in the second detergent compartment of the dishwasher and using the hot wash option as well it has given me great results even with baked on/ dried on food....PAT COFFEY | ||
| Post# 533138 , Reply# 13 7/27/2011 at 08:00 (4,654 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 533167 , Reply# 15 7/27/2011 at 10:47 (4,654 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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I thought you got your fuel/RPM mixture wrong and when you started your jet engine, a wall of flames about 25 feet long came out the back of the engine. Now THAT'S a Hot Start! | ||
| Post# 533200 , Reply# 16 7/27/2011 at 13:54 (4,654 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY) | ||
Hot Start | ||
| Post# 533219 , Reply# 17 7/27/2011 at 14:33 (4,654 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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| Post# 533254 , Reply# 18 7/27/2011 at 15:35 (4,654 days old) by mixfinder () | ||
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Purge Early model GE impeller machines would run water and pump it out at the same time to purge and warm the sump. | ||
| Post# 533257 , Reply# 19 7/27/2011 at 15:59 (4,654 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada) | ||
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older kenmore dishwasher
and i also remember that older kenmore dishwashers the first wash also known as prewash would start warm and when the main wash would start the light would switch from warm to hot this model to be precise and credit to turqoise dude for the pic and if the sani wash option was chosen the sani light and delay light would light up as well.
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| Post# 533290 , Reply# 20 7/27/2011 at 19:38 (4,653 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas) | ||
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Please view this video: (54 seconds) If after viewing that video don't you wonder why in the world they would put such a button on an appliance. I mean, hot starts are not something you strive for! CLICK HERE TO GO TO whirlcool's LINK | ||
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Post# 533298 , Reply# 21 7/27/2011 at 21:14 (4,653 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY) |
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Good to know.
I randonly assumed the HOT start on a GE was a fill, a two or three minute wash, then a pause with no wash action to heat the water until it reached the desired temp. HOT start; no noise. I then assumed the machine started washing once the water was hot. Put a quick rinse in there to re-heat the water in the lines and then a main wash! For me, I'd get a 2 gallon (say 8 litre) electric hot-water heater under the sink for the DW and avoid all such problems. | ||
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Post# 533299 , Reply# 22 7/27/2011 at 21:33 (4,653 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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 Pierre, I believe it is time I realign some of your misconceptions about your dishwaher. first, read the user manual. It specifically states you are to run the tap at the kitchen sink before you turn on the machine. Secondly, the heating element, MAY be energized during prewash, but it doesn't heat the water but 3 to 5 degrees F during the prewash. There is no thermostatic hold to raise the temperature. The main wash will heat the water to a certain temperature, but atht depends upon options selected when you use smart wash. and incidentally, when you use either high-temp or sani-rinse with the smart wash programme, you cmopletely negate all intelligence of the cycle. the programme defaults to a speficied program sequence without any variance. the final rinse water is also thermostatically held/heated to a set point. I let SmartWash do what it was designed to do, let it select all variables to clean the load, be it water changes, water temperaturs and cycle length. The ONLY US. designed dshwasher that had a temperature delay hold for a pre-wash was the Whirlpool PowerClean and Kenmore UltraWash dishwashers when the Pots/Pans, PowerScour cycle was used.
Now as far as your comment about the older D&M Kenmores with the water temperature sequenced lights, the machine started out with "cool" light being lit. there were a total of 3 water changes prior to the main wash. And if the household water heater was set at 140 or 150 degrees, then by the 3 water change, the light had changed form "cool" to "normal". that is where it stayed unless you used the sani-Rinse option or Sani-Wash cycle. Then, it delayed the timer advance on the final rine until 155 degrees was met. the nomral and delay light would be lit until the 155 temp reached and then the sani light would light up. | ||
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Post# 533302 , Reply# 23 7/27/2011 at 22:05 (4,653 days old) by peteski50 (New York) |
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Kenmore Dishwasher!
Pierre I have a friend that had the same exact dishwasher builtin. It was a great machine. The only delay hold was if you selected sani temp and occured in the final rinse. The wash portion had the heater going but it only helped maintain the temperature. Their was no other delay - the cool and normal temp lights only indicated if you house hold temperature was to low. Theirs was always good because their temp was set at 140. The cycle always regeristered hot and than if sani temp was selected the sani light would come on in the final rinse.
Peter | ||
| Post# 533348 , Reply# 25 7/28/2011 at 08:49 (4,653 days old) by gmmcnair (Portland, OR) | ||
Hot Start.... My GE portable has the Hot Start Feature....it basically adds a couple of extra fills to the mix so everything is steaming hot when the main cycle hits. I think they rebadged it as Hot Start to keep their Energy Star status.
No heating element comes on during mine...I don't have any kind of water heating options. I like it...it adds only 10 minutes to the cycle time, and I get very clean dishes....no little food specks on anything in 2+ months of daily use. | ||
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Post# 533356 , Reply# 26 7/28/2011 at 09:48 (4,653 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA) |
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