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Post# 538988   8/23/2011 at 12:08 (4,709 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Finally it happened.  One of my F&P machines needs a repair.  GWL08 ill with a leaking pump.  First repair at 12 years old.  Gotta hate it, LOL.





Post# 539097 , Reply# 1   8/23/2011 at 19:10 (4,709 days old) by JETCONE (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
especially since my

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Bendix pumps are hitting 60!

 

 


Post# 539123 , Reply# 2   8/23/2011 at 22:53 (4,709 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Bendix pumps are hitting 60!

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A good point...

 

BUT

 

How many weeks average pay did it take to buy a Bendix in 1951 compared to a Fisher and Paykel in 1999? If the answer if more than 5 times (60y/12y=5) the number of weeks to purchase the Fisher and Paykel 1999, then the Fisher and Paykel was a better purchase.


Post# 539190 , Reply# 3   8/24/2011 at 09:36 (4,708 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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60 years on a Bendix pump with no repairs is fantastic!

Hey Jon, several years ago you asked me to call you regards to questions on an F&P washer that your sister had bought.  How's she doing with it?  Or has it been replaced by now?  Just wondering ...

Here's a pic of the culprit.  Toy-looking little thing.  Made in France.  It was under water for about 12 hrs during a flash flood in Nov 2004, still worked after.


Post# 539307 , Reply# 4   8/24/2011 at 18:59 (4,708 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
60 YEAR OLD BENDIX WASHER PUMPS

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No Bendix water pump has ever lasted 60 years in a normal use situation. Normal use is described as at least 4 and often ten loads per week.


Post# 543573 , Reply# 5   9/14/2011 at 13:43 (4,687 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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I put off ordering the new pump for a while, in case Sears had the best price on anything I needed for the Catalyst dryer.

I thought F&P parts are hard to get??

Placed the order online Monday 9/12/2011 @ 5:30 PM.

Item received on WEDNESDAY 9/14/2011 at 1:00 PM.  Sent from a warehouse location in Dallas.  Standard shipping (although it was an outrageous $11), not 2nd-day or overnight.

The impeller is different, supposed to run a bit quieter, I believe.

This is the replacement listed for GWL08, although it's not the newest pump design that includes a fuse to be added on one of the pump wires to protect the control board (which would also work on GWL08).


Post# 543737 , Reply# 6   9/15/2011 at 14:21 (4,686 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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A shipping confirm e-mail arrived from Sears a couple mins ago.  LOL.


Post# 543982 , Reply# 7   9/16/2011 at 18:20 (4,685 days old) by Easyspindry (Winston-Salem, NC)        
Way to go with the pump issue . . .

. . . My F&P machines are something over 6 years old and no problems yet. I enjoy using them.

The F&P dish drawers are working beautifully, also.

Jerry Gay


Post# 544689 , Reply# 8   9/20/2011 at 10:53 (4,681 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Well ... damnit.

Turns out to be the wrong pump, by one digit.  420324P is 230v/50hz for non-US power.  Correct item is 420325P.  The parts diagram @ Sears for GWL08 lists the wrong item.  I didn't cross-reference it against the docs I've gathered via scouring online.  Duhh.  And even more duhhhh, I didn't run the new pump "dry" before putting water into the machine.

Must call Sears to get an RMA but they're pretty nice to deal with.  There's a "click to call" function on the site which brings up a window to enter my phone number for THEM to call ME.  Phone rang within seconds before I could get the number submitted, so it apparently was picked up automatically from my customer profile.

Anyway ... here's a pic of the bayonet mounting bracket.  No tools needed to change the pump.


Post# 544690 , Reply# 9   9/20/2011 at 10:54 (4,681 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Wrong new pump.  It hums a little but can't run at 120v.


Post# 544978 , Reply# 10   9/21/2011 at 16:15 (4,680 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
You just turn and twist?

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How clever! Glenn, My sister had a new pump installed and still has her machine,she likes it but is jonesing for a FL to be up to date!

 


And yes John my 1958 Duomatic has the orignal pump and it does 4 loads a week!

It has new oil and new oil seals in the tranny. And a new belt. And a new drain hose. And new water feed hoses. Still the original condenser hose to the condenser spray and OH - did I mention it does 4 loads a week??!!

Ahem!

 

 

 


Post# 545002 , Reply# 11   9/21/2011 at 18:14 (4,680 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
pump motor

could you swap the 115v field coil from the original pump motor with the 230v one
on the replacement motor?


Post# 545019 , Reply# 12   9/21/2011 at 20:04 (4,680 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
ORIGINAL PUMP IN 1958 DUO-MATIC

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Jon how do you know that pump has never been repaired or replaced and you know darn well that that machine not run 4 loads per week for the last 53 years.


Post# 545069 , Reply# 13   9/22/2011 at 06:56 (4,679 days old) by gizmo (Victoria, Australia)        

That's a shame.

Just out of interest - why on Earth would Sears in the 110v USofA carry a 240v pump for a FP washer?

Let's hope they have stock of the correct pump.

chris.


Post# 545089 , Reply# 14   9/22/2011 at 08:32 (4,679 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Well Mother Superior

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My reasoning goes like this.

 

1) Purchased from original owner in Syracuse a 1958 Bendix Duo, she raised 4 children with one washer, she was put in a Nursing home 4 years before I got there. The machine was still hooked up with detergent and bleach on top and it was the ONLY machine in the house.

 

2) The pump on the Bendix is a factory original not one of those WESTWOODS' you keep trying to sell as Bendix! 

3) If the pump was a replacement then it had to have been done in the early 60's. The door boot was factory replacement, is gray and is still on the machine, the boot could only have been replaced in the 1960's. So the latest the pump could be is 1960's.

So if you want to nit pic then the pump has run almost 50 years not 60.

 

QED 

 



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