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Post# 545070   9/22/2011 at 06:58 (4,586 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        

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I was against these models for a long time because you could not select soil level / wash time. On these new models their is this option. One of the biggest complaints against these machines is they run to dam long. Maybe and now I say maybe this problem has been addressed. These new instruction manuals do not give cycle selection time we can only hope. Also this Fan fresh bull shit is for the birds. If they can tumble up to 4 hours or more after the cycle they could be and should have a drying option. Are you listening Whirlpool - lets start a combo going!


Post# 545107 , Reply# 1   9/22/2011 at 10:31 (4,586 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Peter, yes I agree nice improvements. I wonder what "concentrated fast speed tumbling (normal wash tumble speed) means. I noticed they are using the terms light, normal, heavy, and extra heavy for soil level designations (like the Maytags) instead of the old terms of heavy, normal, light and maybe ex. light. I am willing to bet you (here we go again) Normal is what light used to be and heavy is what normal used to be and ex. heavy is what heavy used to be. Right there is their way of meeting higher energy savings requirements, in addition to the cold wash cycle that's become vogue on so many machinnes. There is still one very significant and important option which is missing. A stain trerat option. (This is automatically built in into the Heavy Wash cycle with it filling with warm and heating the water to hot for a somewhat profile wash to deal with various type of stains). The only cycles which use the heater to supplement temps are whites, heavy duty, allergen, and sanitize. All other cycles do not (if this machine follows Whirlpool's original pattern of what cycles automatically use the heater and those that don't use it). With the stain treat option, the heater is utilized to raise temp from warm to hot on all the above-mentioned cycles as well as adding heating option to the normal and bulky (as ell as the delicate tne wrinklefree cycles on Maytags). The heater is so important in these machines and I actually do not care how long the cycles take if I know I"m going to have a water temperature for wash that 's boosted a bit rather than simply ending up with tempid temperatures, even for hot, because of the cold machine when a load begins. Even with the Fridgemore, when using Biz, I don't have to worry about stains and inspectinhg for stains, I simply chuck everything in and add the Biz and know everything is going to come out. With stain treat, I wouldn't even have to use Biz, just a very good detergent such as Tide, Gain, or Cheer.

Post# 545112 , Reply# 2   9/22/2011 at 10:50 (4,586 days old) by peteski50 (New York)        

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Actually the Normal cycle still tumbles at medium speed. Being you can set the soil level I am hoping that the 90 minute heavy cycle time could be reduced Significantly. But like I said no times in this newer manual are available. I think the cold wash cycle is a bunch of nonsense - but whatever!

Post# 545124 , Reply# 3   9/22/2011 at 12:20 (4,586 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
your wrong

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you are way wrong about the cold water wash this is something that will be very useful and what i find as total non sense(my 2 cent here is the 90 minute wash when 10 or 30 minutes would be more than engough but this will never beat the wash action of a toploading washer. and this is all that i have to say.

Post# 545138 , Reply# 4   9/22/2011 at 13:39 (4,586 days old) by appnut (TX)        
90 minute Heavy Wash Cycle

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It's that long so that it has enough time built into the cycle to allow water heating to be taken from the 100 degree warm (it oculd be cooler these days) to 130 degrees. That's the process that makes european laundry results so much better than ours with a bunch of chemicals thrown at fabrics all the time. If you opt. for light soil on the Heavy wash cycle, then the heater isn't used at all. Then it's kind of stupid and pointless. As it's come to the point that water temperatures have been dumbed down for the last of the traditional top loaders as well as HE top loaders, the only way you're gonna get decent water temps of warm or hot is with the supplemental heate, which adds quite a bit of time. Knowing I'll get decent temperatures is one reason why I like front loaders because of their supplemental heaters heating water very hot, up to 155 degrees on Sanitize cycle.

Post# 545150 , Reply# 5   9/22/2011 at 14:17 (4,586 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Yes........These do look better than the old sports.

I remember when the old sports first came out, I think his username was "Tuthill" started a post with pics of his sport in operation and I remember he mentioned the first rinse was really deep! He had a picture of it and the freaking water was over a quarter way up the glass! I couldn't understand why the sport would have that deep rinse yet the higher end Duets didn't. Seemed to me it should have been the opposite.

Is the allergen cycle shorter than Sanitize?

Post# 545152 , Reply# 6   9/22/2011 at 14:28 (4,586 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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