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Post# 546648   9/30/2011 at 14:52 (4,642 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Could it be?




Post# 546649 , Reply# 1   9/30/2011 at 14:53 (4,642 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        
REALLY?

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EEEEEEK!!!!!

Post# 546650 , Reply# 2   9/30/2011 at 14:53 (4,642 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Post# 546651 , Reply# 3   9/30/2011 at 14:55 (4,642 days old) by toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Dryers over washers. An odd location and system.

They had to be labeled, apparently, because they all look alike.


Post# 546652 , Reply# 4   9/30/2011 at 15:00 (4,642 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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I thought that someone posted about this so I didn't, but perhaps I was wrong.

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Post# 546666 , Reply# 5   9/30/2011 at 16:19 (4,642 days old) by AutowasherFreak ()        

I wonder how long they will last?


Post# 546669 , Reply# 6   9/30/2011 at 16:28 (4,642 days old) by thomasortega (El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora de Los Angeles de Porciúncula)        

If they were built like the first machines LG sold here in Brazil, they'd last FOREVER!

If like the machines recently launched.... poor laundromat owner...


Post# 546698 , Reply# 7   9/30/2011 at 20:32 (4,642 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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What kind of prices were they charging for the washers, and how much time in the dryers?


Post# 546727 , Reply# 8   10/1/2011 at 05:17 (4,642 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Toggles, is that a card system or a slot for money?   It does look clean and neat.  alr


Post# 546741 , Reply# 9   10/1/2011 at 08:13 (4,642 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
LOL

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Hell on earth!

Malcolm


Post# 546746 , Reply# 10   10/1/2011 at 09:00 (4,642 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Malcolm, if that's the case, the owner could name it the vey's mir (woe is me) laundry.

Toggle, are coin op laundry operators required by any kind of regulation to provide a minimum hot water temperature to the machines when they are set for a hot fill?


Post# 546749 , Reply# 11   10/1/2011 at 09:14 (4,642 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        
Hell on earth!

Yep!

Looking at it I am experiencing aesthetic overload. It's too stylish for me. I'd never be able to go in there wearing my pink dressing gown and fluffy rabbit slippers at 2 am in the morning. No way!



Post# 546753 , Reply# 12   10/1/2011 at 10:02 (4,642 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        
too stylish?

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Only if your laundry is located in a bathroom.  Looks sterile and cold to me.  And the folding tables are anemic.  The article Joe posted also doesn't sound too complimentary, especially reading the follow-up comments after the main body.


Post# 546761 , Reply# 13   10/1/2011 at 10:35 (4,642 days old) by henry200 ()        
Stylish is not how I would describe it

Cold, clinical, and sterile are words coming to my mind.  For me, a laundry lounge conjures up visions of comfy sofas, mood music and a fireplace.  I can see that certain types of people would find such a place as this attractive.  Those who appreciate spartan simplicity and the "look" of technology would like the atmosphere of a science lab,  but that laundromat looks to me like one might be expected to don scrubs and a face mask before entering.   Maybe because I have never needed to use a laundromat my perspective is slightly skewed.


Post# 546785 , Reply# 14   10/1/2011 at 13:29 (4,641 days old) by rapunzel (Sydney)        
Confession time!

I don't own a pink dressing gown or fluffy rabbit slippers (yet). Nor would I go to any laundromat in NYC or anywhere else, to do my laundry at 2 in the morning. Unless, of course, I was on the prowl for crack or non-consensual sex (which I think might be fun when I am an octogenarian).

To the above I'd wear a white jump suit, surgical mask and latex gloves.


Post# 546787 , Reply# 15   10/1/2011 at 13:45 (4,641 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
24-Hour Laundromats

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Are common enough here in NYC indeed there are several in Manhattan including two in our area and one somewhere in Harlem.

Most laundromats are open only from say 7AM to 9PM M-F and shorter hours on the weekends. Well those hours may suit someone who is home all day but others have things to do. Most set their last wash times for around 1-1/2 to two hours before closing so the last in will most certainly be out by closing.

Both of the 24/7 laundromats in our area use card systems rather than coins. One pays at a central (and very heavy/bolted) "ATM" with one's debit or credit card to put money onto a card. This card in turn is used to pay for washing machines and dryers. One can either refill said cards or purchase another.

Self serve laundromats of any kind are becoming a dying breed in many parts of NYC for several reasons. First of course is the high cost of real estate and operating costs versus what one can make back in revenue. The other is most persons often prefer "wash and fold" service. However this causes a problem for a laundromat. If customers take up too many washers/dryers that means there are that many less for doing fluff and fold.

Here in NY laundromat owners pay for water twice, once as fresh water then again for sewage, so there is another cost. Considering NY's high rates for electric and gas you kind of get the picture. Most every laundromat one has seen is either fully staffed by "immigrants" and if not owned by them and the family works it's last daily breath to make a go of things.

When Maytag launched their 'Neptune' line of washers and dryers they also franchised out coin-op laundries with all their equipment. There was one in East Harlem but do not know if it is still here and or has the original equipment.

More and more apartment, condo and co-op dwellers are insisting on their own laundry appliance hook-ups, and developers are listening. It is really the older housing stock (of which NYC has much of) there washers in particular pose problems as the plumbing wasn't designed to handle such things. Even in fancy older co-op buildings there can be wars about installing machines. Many buildings of all manner and sort have laundry rooms and would prefer persons use those (and we all know why), but some people just have a "thing" about using any public laundry equipment and or having to leave the comfort of their own home.


Post# 546907 , Reply# 16   10/2/2011 at 12:46 (4,640 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Washaterias (what coin ops are called in this part of the country) are becoming scarce. There is only 1 within 10 miles of my house. The Chinese people who operate it keep it pretty clean and offer CNN or Oprah on the 3 flat screens but seating is limited. There are only 4 chairs in the entire place. Most people put their wash in and then hang out by their cars until it's time to move it all to the dryers.

If I want hot water it's best to get there when they first open. After noon it seems like "hot" is only about 110F.



Post# 546945 , Reply# 17   10/2/2011 at 18:27 (4,640 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Ever Since The Days Of Laundry Being "Sent Out"

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Either to a launderess or later various sorts of commercial laundries the public has had a love hate realtionship with public "wash houses".

In the days when wash day involved major upheaval of the household and much effort on Her Indoors (and or any other female in the house)many were quite happy to get the thing out of their houses. Later as modern laundry equipment evolved but wasn't affordable or accessible by the general population at large, many were happy for laundromats and or still used laundry services.

However as the nature of how germs and disease were spread more housewives and others became concerned about the promiscuous mixing of all manner and sort of laundry at public services. For instance many laundresses and or such services would either refuse to take washing from a home where an infectious disease (scarlett fever, diptheria, flue, etc) was or recently present. OTHO some would and not tell their other customers or the household itself would not disclose the information for fear of their order being turned down.

If one examines early advertisments for laundry equipment they make much use of two claims; one they would dispense with the need to send wash out and thus preserve the health of Madame's household. The other was saving either Madame or whomever was going to do the wash (maid or laundress) undue effort or strain.

Unless one has inexpensive water, fuel and real estate costs running a laundromat can be a money draining business. All that equipment must be paid for even if it's sitting idle. OTOH one can only charge rates that customers are willing to pay.


Post# 547428 , Reply# 18   10/4/2011 at 13:05 (4,638 days old) by glenfieldmathk1 (Glenfield-Leicester-UK)        

Don't look that good to me, if you ask me plastic paddles isn't very good for a professional washing machines, a heavy used machine, that will probably end up washing a lot of coins that people forget to take out there clothes, I don't see them lasting, compared to the other laundrette machines, here in uk to be honest!

Post# 547432 , Reply# 19   10/4/2011 at 13:44 (4,638 days old) by aeg03 (London, UK)        

I like the look of these machines. I will def use when I am in New York next time :-).

Post# 547641 , Reply# 20   10/5/2011 at 18:07 (4,637 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
Alliance and Wascomat ...............................

have absolutely nothing to worry about.....I bet this place will replace these machines or close within a year. LG washers are most definitely are NOT built for commercial use, especially commmercial use in NYC. (or should I say commmercial abuse in NYC)
Look what happened to the Whirlpool/Maytag Sport machines in Stuvesant Town, and Peter Cooper Village. They were destroyed, people could not adapt to such low water usage machines, and they were trashed.
Mike


Post# 547642 , Reply# 21   10/5/2011 at 18:17 (4,637 days old) by pierreandreply4 (St-Bruno de montarville (province of quebec) canada)        
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this is just my own tough here but i think that laundromat should stick to good old fashion top load washers but this is just my 2 cents here and my only post in this thread.

Post# 547664 , Reply# 22   10/5/2011 at 21:17 (4,637 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Do Not Think There Is A Public Laundromat In NYC

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That mainly uses or even has top loading washing machines anymore. For the most part most or all have front loading washers and for good reasons.

Commercial laundries pay for water used and often sewage as well, so there is an incentive to save on those costs.

Here in NYC for instance when there is a water shortage the city can order all commercial establishments to reduce their water usage, and that includes laundromats. If an inspector visited a laundry and found water above a certain level in any washer the owner is liable for fines.

Front loading washers hold more than top, so even the lowest rated load will probably be equal or slighly more in the former verus the latter.

Because they use less water that translates into less hot water as well for front loaders. Another area of savings.

Finally have heard from laundromat owners that in terms of durability, service and so forth front loading washers are far better than top loaders. One has only to look at commercial laundries where H-Axis washers have long dominated on both sides of the pond. Some laundries may have the one off top loader for *special* items, but by and large all washing is done by front loaders or methods that produce similar results such a tunnel washers.



Post# 547736 , Reply# 23   10/6/2011 at 08:42 (4,637 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Learning Experience

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Perhaps LG will learn valuable information from this experience and vastly improve their machines to be more reliable for this particular application. Or, they could dry and blow away altogether.

Discuss....

Malcolm


Post# 549191 , Reply# 24   10/13/2011 at 22:17 (4,629 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Quote: Here in NY laundromat owners pay for water twice, once as fresh water then again for sewage, so there is another cost.

Really? And how is the amount of water pushed into the sewers measured?
By what method is water double-billed? Who bills for this?


Quote: Here in NYC for instance when there is a water shortage the city can order all commercial establishments to reduce their water usage, and that includes laundromats. If an inspector visited a laundry and found water above a certain level in any washer the owner is liable for fines.


Really? What would that level be? What would it be in a front-loader? in a top-loader? Where can I see these regulations in print? The water is metered and therefore paid-for. It makes no sense to penalize a laundromat for water usage when such utility is vital to their business.



New York city for decades did not meter water in that the sentiment was that with so many people living in such a small amount of space/land, the City wanted all to be clean and not stingy with the use of water. It goes against logic and common sense that today's mania with saving water and resources has swung to the point (at least in NYC) that doing laundry in a front-loader (i.e. efficiently) would be further scrutinized.


Please provide a link to written regulations and/or disclose your source.




Post# 549193 , Reply# 25   10/13/2011 at 22:25 (4,629 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Local article regarding laundromat.


BTW I am not aware of any minimum water temperature limits for laundromats in NYC


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Post# 549194 , Reply# 26   10/13/2011 at 22:31 (4,629 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Post# 549196 , Reply# 27   10/13/2011 at 23:20 (4,629 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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At both my laundries, I pay both water and sewer.  In one store, water is billed at $2.25 per 1000 gal, while sewer is billed at $8.25 per 1000 gal consumed ($308.48 and $1136.56 last month).  At my other store, sewer is nearly twice what the water charge is ($442.49 water, $719.25 sewer last month).  Sewer is based on water consumption, without any adjustment for water lost for evaporation (via dryers).  Look closely at your next water bill to see if there is a separate line item for sewer.

 

Based on these rates, it is always in the best interest of the owner to have the most efficient equipment.  That and/or the ability to charge a premium for machines that are less efficient.  For example, my Maytag toploaders are priced the same as my Wascomat doubleloads, even tho' the Wascomats use less than half the water of the Maytags.  And that will be changed soon so that the tops are a quarter or .50 more than the doubles.  My Maytag "super cycle" (extra 3 min wash time and a 2nd rinse) are .50 extra.


Post# 549210 , Reply# 28   10/14/2011 at 00:50 (4,629 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Our water and sewer-use rates are calculated similarly, but the sewer rates have gone up. Residential rates (commercial rates are higher and tiered based on volume) used to be roughly half of billed water consumption for sewer charges but with aging infrastructure in older parts of the city in addition to a decade plus plan imposing surcharges to comply with sanitary & storm sewer separation regulations, the sewer rates have nearly matched the consumption charges.


Post# 549214 , Reply# 29   10/14/2011 at 01:18 (4,629 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Still Do Not Understand

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Why someone hasn't spotted the hole in the market for laundromat front loaders with better extraction!

I don't care what spec sheets say and or the "larger diameter ....." argument, am here to tell you items coming out of the local laundromats Speed Queen washers can still have water wrung from them. This does not happen with my Miele even when set to only 900rpm final spin.

Suppose it wouldn't be so bad if those Bock extractors were still around, but here in NYC and perhaps elsewhere in the state do not think there is a place that still has them.

Fully half the items bunged into those blast oven heat laundromat dryers could be simply taken home and hung up for a bit and would be totally dry if the final spin was better.


Post# 549240 , Reply# 30   10/14/2011 at 05:07 (4,629 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
We pay double on sewer rates

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compared to usage rates for water, and I have gone to second metering to save money. All my external water usage is deducted from my sewerage bill now. Yehaw!


Post# 549250 , Reply# 31   10/14/2011 at 06:46 (4,629 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Bock Extractors

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I think the Bock extractors were a liability risk for the laundromat owner. Somehow, they were thought to be unsafe. Plus, the average coin-op user is not gonna be bothered with an extra step in the process.

Malcolm


Post# 549251 , Reply# 32   10/14/2011 at 06:55 (4,629 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

John found a plumber who would put in, at great cost, a sub meter for outside use to save on the sewage charges on every gallon of water that comes through the water meter. When I was getting plants established, it was a good idea, but now, I hardly use outside water unless we have an extremely dry period. We both had one installed, but the Washington Suburban Sanitary Commission was really nasty to work with. The plumber said that the office for the permits for these sub meters was only open a few hours a week and the permits were very expensive since they knew a sub meter would cut into their exorbitant rates. It is the sewage equivalent of getting a same sex marriage license in some places in New York.

Back to the main topic: I don't see why front loading washers which used far less water than top loaders to begin with had to have water usage throttled back so severely. Westinghouse and the Philco Bendix design, later Dexter, washed large loads without using as much water as a top loader. My Mieles and the Creda wash and rinse in adequate amounts of water, but are not examples of the insanity that hit the industry with the giant drum washers that use so little water.


Post# 549257 , Reply# 33   10/14/2011 at 07:50 (4,629 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        


Speaking of extractors,  would it be possible for one of the home laundry mfr's to create a T/L machine  with the faster spin speed that the HE T/L 's have, set up as extractors only?  The tubs are huge, no agitator to speak of and the the lid locks. It would be much easier to install than the bock type extractors.  Think of the wear and tear it would save on the actual front load washer bearings ,   maybe the front loaders could spin just enough to stop "dripping", during the transfer to the extractors.  In a coin op setting it might even speed things along.  What is the cycle time on the coin op LG's?


Post# 549261 , Reply# 34   10/14/2011 at 08:10 (4,629 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

The fly in that ointment is that if front loaders do not spin fast, more water is left in the clothes and with the small amount of water that is used for rinsing, you would not get good rinsing because you would be carrying more detergent and dirt laden water into successive water changes. Then too, people would bitch about having to carry heavy wet stuff to the extractor.

Post# 549263 , Reply# 35   10/14/2011 at 08:18 (4,629 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

I do see your point Tom,  and they would no doubt complain about the extra step.  Not having a f/l machine i had no idea that they had such a high speed spin between water changes.  Thanks alr


Post# 549348 , Reply# 36   10/14/2011 at 14:35 (4,628 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        
Laundress

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It's a hole in how-to-run-your-business.  First, 300+G washers cost 2-3x more to purchase than the 90G hardmounts, so most owners won't spring for them when they are already cash strapped going into business.  Second, by increasing extraction, you loose time (read: money) from your dryers.  Owners who do have hi-extract washers are still trying to figure out their pricing balance so as not to piss people off (charge more for washers? decrease temps in the dryers? 2 minutes/quarter? etc)... 

 

Believe me, when the Neptune first came out, I asked all manufacturers when they would come out with a commercial grade 300G washers, at which they promptly laughed.  Why would anyone want them?  You will spend all your money and no one will use them.  You won't make any money in your dryers.  No, settle for the status quo...

 

The hot thing now is 200G hardmount washers.  All manufactures have them now at a modest price point up from the 90G machines.  All the manufacturers will also tell you that when you look at the amount of water extracted over time, the jump from a 90G machine to a 200G machine is remarkable, but a 200G compared to a 300G machine is very minor.  I haven't seen nor looked for this data firsthand...  Then they will tell you that the way a typical laundromat user uses coin-op machines, 300G machines rarely get balanced and achieve full speed.


Post# 549362 , Reply# 37   10/14/2011 at 15:57 (4,628 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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Both my home in Austin and my apartment in DFW charge double (but separately) for water and sewer. At the apt they assume everything coming out of the faucet goes down the drain. And except for what evaporates in winter, it does. What evaporates in summer goes down the AC drain.

At the house in Austin, they took your winter rate (no landscaping) and charged you that sewer rate in summer, taking yard watering off the sewer charge. Prior to the 80s when cities weren't desparate for revenue, nobody ever heard of a sewer charge.

I do not know 'for certain' that the same charges apply to commercial customers. Residential water rates are 'tiered', more you use, higher the cost/unit. Commercial is flat rate. Tiering does not apply to residential sewer.


Post# 549367 , Reply# 38   10/14/2011 at 17:01 (4,628 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Am Told The IRS Works The Same In Regards To Laundries

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At least in that for laundromats and commercial laundries they can look at water and sewage bills to determine how much business the place does. Apparently the IRS has records of models of washing machines (or can obtain them) and thus information on how much water is used per cycle.

While one can see how laundromats may come under the gun during an audit as they are most always cash businesses (and the IRS *hates* that sort of thing,*LOL*), large commercial laundries normally work on account so records are easily traced.


Post# 549384 , Reply# 39   10/14/2011 at 19:04 (4,628 days old) by appnut (TX)        
arbilab your house in Austin

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That's exactly how my city (up I-35 from Austin) calculates their sewar usage and rates.  Any lawn watering is not factored in because sewar usage is averaged over the 3 months of January, February, and either December or March.  those months I watch my water consumptio like a hawk to keep it under 2000 gallons.  The lower sewar usage also has a small impact n water consumtpion rates too.  However, any time I go over 2000 gallons consumption in a billing cycle, a $2.00 sewar fee is tacked on, which burns me to no end.  A couple of years ago when we wree under dry conditions in the winter, people were watering their yards.  (I didn't because I didn't want to get zapped for ahigh sewar fee for 12 months.  But the city decided to forgo consumption for that 3 month billing averqage priod and simply used what people had had on their record the year before.  I hope that's what's done again during this drought. 


Post# 549415 , Reply# 40   10/14/2011 at 22:05 (4,628 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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That 'winter sets sewer rates' is where I got the habit of only flushing the toilet every 3rd time (long as it's only water).

Not to say EVERY city or state works that way, just that they CAN.


Post# 549440 , Reply# 41   10/15/2011 at 00:57 (4,628 days old) by appnut (TX)        
"winter set sewar rates"

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I did similar--flushed every other time.  But I would also collect all the cold water that ran through the pipes into a 3+ gallon bucket everytime I took a showeer.  That collected water was also used to flush the toilet.  I ceased having to be a water miser once I got my Frigidaire front loader.  My clothes are cleaner and they last a lot longer now too!!  Living alone, I find ways to cut corners on expenses when I can.  I know you can relate to that.


Post# 549449 , Reply# 42   10/15/2011 at 02:25 (4,628 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Looks a great place, will be interesting to see how its gone and how it looks a year on!!

I wonder is the dryer yours to operate as a stacked set??, can you imagine all the Cross Over with everyone picking different dryers...Lol

I think the day has come when people want / expect a premium service, fast efficient wash and max extract with quick dryers, all in surrounding that are clean and well maintained....but like Peter says, how do you make it pay!! well like anything else , you get what you pay for!!


Post# 549451 , Reply# 43   10/15/2011 at 02:37 (4,628 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        
Bob

Bob how much did you save by doing the recycle thing? I know municipalities are really serious with water in the west, my partner's sister had a full house after Katrina,  she insisted on coin op laundry during their stay, because of all the family bathing. I think they actually fine "water abusers" in Colorado.  Hope you are well.   Just a ballpark figure is good, you are right every dollar counts nowdays's.  arthur


Post# 549452 , Reply# 44   10/15/2011 at 02:39 (4,628 days old) by arbilab (Ft Worth TX (Ridglea))        

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What comes out of the washer could flush the toilet just fine. But in almost all cases it is prevented by code. So is using 'gray water' from laundry/sink/bath for landscaping.

Really, all household water besides toilet can be used twice. Doing so is almost always forbidden. They'd rather charge you double for sewage than let you actually save water.


Post# 549494 , Reply# 45   10/15/2011 at 09:37 (4,628 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Arthur I'm just guessing and extrapolating.  Eveery time I turned on the shower, that was about 2 gallons that was collected, so that would be about 60 gallons a month alone.  Add on to that factor each flush is about 4 gallons.  And not always flushing.  I'd say that it probably saved me between 200 and 300 gallons a month.  I remember there were a couple of times over the yeaers that I got my winterr monthly usage down to about 1300 or 1400 gallons.  That 200 to 300 gallon savings translated to between 2 and 3 loads in the Lady Shredmore I could run with the 'savings" and not be penalized.  There would be a month (out of those 3) where I'd end up using over 2000 gallons and so I would have to restrict my usage for the other two months so that the average ended up being 2000 or less over the 3 months.  There was one time I actually took 3 or 4 loads of towels to the laundromat to wash instead of doing them at home, because with the 2nd rinse alays used on towels, each load used 120 or so gallons.  So those 3 or 4 loads would have cnsumed 360 to 480 gallons, which in the wscheme of 2000 gallons maximum, was quite a bit.  And now with the drought as bad as it is here, I"m very aware of how much water I use that's not involved in watering the yard, which is mainly to keep moisture round my foundation more than anything--which has still probably ended up being cracked and will cost a fortune (which I don't have) to repair if I ever wanted to sell my house. 


Post# 549503 , Reply# 46   10/15/2011 at 09:48 (4,628 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Toggles

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It would be cool to record quarterly reports on this mat to see how it holds up over time.

Malcolm


Post# 549751 , Reply# 47   10/16/2011 at 10:04 (4,627 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Something that has not been mentioned about this high style place is that the folding tables don't have raised edges to prevent clothes from falling onto the floor. With their small size, that would be doubly important.

Post# 550167 , Reply# 48   10/18/2011 at 08:21 (4,625 days old) by kenmorepeter01 ()        
What's the street at LG Laundromat

Hello. I'm deaf. What's the street at LG Laundromat in Manhattan?

Peter (kenmorepeter01) ;-)


Post# 550219 , Reply# 49   10/18/2011 at 14:25 (4,624 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Hi Peter,

It is along Amsterdam Avenue near 140th Street. City College is across the street.

Let me know if you want to meet there.

I don't know sign-language, but if you can lip-read, perhaps we can have lunch in the city and make a day of it? Write me off-line! Then I have an excuse to look at the pricing for PeterH.

Thanks!


P.S. Let's invite Launderess and get a few pics of her for the site. (DUCKS AND RUNS). LOL


Post# 550220 , Reply# 50   10/18/2011 at 14:28 (4,624 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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I thought that was Laundress's picture on her Avitar.  Isn't Laundress really Patricia Rutledge?  I just had her pictured that way.

 


Post# 550428 , Reply# 51   10/19/2011 at 11:57 (4,623 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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We get one bill here for Water & Sewer, both administered by the same city agency.

In as much as the charges are separately stated for both, water and sewer, I would be reluctant to call it a double-billing.

Theoretically the water used by outdoor spigot(s) should not technically be charged-for in sewer charges.

But like everything else in life, the cost to provide the service plus a markup to repay/reward investors (if private enterprise) divided by the number of users is what the charges are based upon.

Stated another way, the fixed overhead costs (don't vary by water / sewer quantity usage) and the variable costs (those that do vary by water/sewer quantity usage have to be considered.


How does the saying go? Water, like religion/spirituality is free. It's the piping (church/temple) you pay for.


Post# 550434 , Reply# 52   10/19/2011 at 12:16 (4,623 days old) by Iheartmaytag (Wichita, Kansas)        

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Our water / sewer is billed 1,000 gallons water in / 1,000 gallons sewage out.  Except during high usage months when outdoor watering is done, they will take an average of Nov, Dec, Jan and only increase sewage out incrementally instead of across the board.

 

So your bill when water usage goes to the next tier will be something like 6,000 gallons water in / 2,500 gallons sewage out.  They do, however, charge double for sewage.  Water is $1.15 per 1,000 gallons. sewage is $2.78 per 1,000 gallons.

 


Post# 552130 , Reply# 53   10/26/2011 at 21:32 (4,616 days old) by kenmorepeter01 ()        
Direction from Subway

Hello, how are you doing?

From GW Bridge Bus Station to Subway: "A" from 175th to 145th--> tranfer "C"--> 135th

OR


From Penn Station (from NJ Transit) to Subway to 125th tranfer "C"--> to 135th

Is that right?

Peter (kenmorepeter01) ;-)


Post# 552252 , Reply# 54   10/27/2011 at 12:33 (4,615 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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Post# 552253 , Reply# 55   10/27/2011 at 12:35 (4,615 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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pipe

The closest station appears to be the #1 Subway line


CLICK HERE TO GO TO Toggleswitch's LINK


Post# 552254 , Reply# 56   10/27/2011 at 12:38 (4,615 days old) by Toggleswitch (New York City, NY)        

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If you prefer to take a NYC bus from your NJ Train, see this link.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO Toggleswitch's LINK


Post# 552404 , Reply# 57   10/28/2011 at 09:23 (4,615 days old) by alr2903 (TN)        

Thanks Bob i wondered about how they were handling the drought situation, You were very clever to take action to reduce your bill. arthur



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