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Post# 546695   9/30/2011 at 20:21 (4,671 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Taken from the website: iseappliances.co.uk/...

Hot & Cold fill machine these machines look good and are built by ex engineers who know the weaknesses of machines etc.

What makes our machines so special?

As you would expect all our machines ultra efficient in terms of energy and water consumption and probably the easiest washing machine in the world to use but, unlike our competitors, this is where our environmental credentials start, not finish.

All ISE machines are now exclusively made by Asko based in Vara, Sweden in a factory which traditionally supplies commercial machines to the UK market.

Asko’s environmental credentials are impressive having won numerous environmental awards including the Nordic Swan accreditation for some of their products.

All ISE machines now have commercial carcasses with each component is designed to last at least 8000 cycles and every machine is tested at the factory prior to dispatch. If you did one wash per day 365 days per year that’s just under 22 years of use.

Components are made from engineered metal rather than moulded plastic and the grades of steel used are of the highest This means they are 4 – 6 times more durable than good quality domestic machines, over 10 times more durable than ‘value machines’ sold by the major chains.

Given the above we can give a ten year parts and labour guarantee for the ISE1607 washing machine and CD601W in a domestic setting and given its heritage it also has three year cover in light commercial premises such as hair dressers, nurseries, small pubs, multi occupancy houses etc.

For ISE aftercare is about good service not profit. ISE make no profit on the sale of spare parts and make technical information and diagnostics freely available to repairers. This makes our machines economic to repair and recondition after the guarantee period has run out extending their life even further and helping small UK businesses.



Longer lifespan for less environmental damage
Like its predecessor, the ISE1606W, this machine is simply outstanding in terms of build quality and performance and is engineered from the outset to maximise the life of the machine. This is done by using higher quality components that are designed to last in excess of 8000 cycles, or over 20 years normal domestic use and by wherever possible, using steel and metal instead of plastic.

Built in Sweden to exacting standards and with the highest possible regard for the environment both in production and in lifespan the care for our environment doesn't stop there. This machine also has AAA performance as well as many automated features to save energy, which means that the machine works out the optimal performance, so you don't have to.

We and many of the people that use them think that it is the best washing machine on the market.

Outstanding Features
Unlike almost every other A rated washing machine we've seen the 1607W can complete a normal 40 cottons wash in little over an hour as opposed to the usual two hours or more. A fantastic timesaver for busy family life.

ISE are so confident in the quality and longevity of this machine that the machines carry a 10 year parts and labour warranty as standard included, so no repair bills for at least a decade, but probably a lot more!

There are some very unique features about this machine that make it very special, asides from being built like a battleship, one such feature is that it is the only machine we have seen with a proper steel subframe which then has four massive shock absorbers for greater stability, even on the likes of wooden flooring excess vibration is soaked up better than any other machine we’ve ever seen.



The door can be opened during a cycle to add things you may have forgotten to add, like a sock that was dropped.

The machine can also be programmed easily to default to either three (as standard) or five rinses. This option is one that allows people that may have sensitive skin, skin allergies or problems with the likes of eczema to have much more rinsing than a standard machine does.

The 1607W also boasts a door sealing system that effectively means that there is no door bellows (or door seal) as such. The door seals directly onto the tub unit and the door then seals to the tank, this means that the chances of laundry being caught by the seal are almost entirely removed. Asides from protecting the laundry better it also means that the door seal cannot be ripped or damaged as, in the traditional sense, it isn’t there to cause a problem on the 1607W.


Then there’s the bearing unit which was originally used in a Volvo truck and designed to last for over one million kilometres of constant use. This is then backed up by a steel bearing seal cassette that is way superior to any we’ve seen on another washing machine.

Basically, these washing machines are built to be virtually bombproof and we love it!

And, even in light commercial use, the appliance carries a three year parts and labour warranty, an industry first. You can now find ISE machines in regular use on Ministry Of Defence bases, schools, colleges, Premier Travel Inns, HM Prisons and a host of other light commercial uses such as hairdressing salons, pubs, restaurants and even on commercial ships.

Please contact us directly for further details on light commercial use.

What's New

The 1607W has an activated drum where different elements of the drum design are used in harmony with one another to give a gentle but thorough wash action. There is a totally new stainless steel drum with the holes designed to gently "push" the laundry into the centre as well as the drum shape itself helping with that purpose. Then we have the radically redesigned paddles that also steer the clothing and have grit escapes on them to cut down on small items of grit, grass blades or suchlike being left in the drum.

In fact, in independent testing the new drum design leaves less "grit" as they call this type of dirt than any other washing machine design in the world.

The design, when coupled with the smart filling, also negates the usual disadvantages when you have a larger drum capacity. And, although the drum is rated as 8kg, it is physically larger than many that have a claimed higher capacity.

There is also a redesigned aesthetic with an all new control panel with white LED indicators and display.

A new door design which allows much wider opening due to an innovative double hinge.

Many times over the years we have been asked for a washing machine that can be a hot and cold fill as well as being suitable for use in circumstances where geo-thermal, solar heated water or another ecological solution for providing hot water to the washing machine was available. This was not possible to do, meet our high standards of performance and to have a hot water connection that actually offered any real benefit.

Until now.

We have been looking into the feasibility of introducing a true hot and cold fill machine that intelligently fills with hot water when required and fills with cold water when required. And, when the incoming water is too warm it will automatically switch to cold water and balance the water temperature to the chosen setting.

We simply refer to this model as "the Eco".

The Eco washing machine is a true hot fill washing machine that is optimised to use a preheated water supply which is ideally delivered from an ecological heating solution. This method of having a true mixed fill is not available on any other washing machine sold in the UK as any machines that are labelled as being "hot and cold fill" will generally only take hot water on one program and for one fill only. The Eco operates in a way that you would expect a hot and cold fill washing machine to by intelligently filling with hot and cold water to offer the performance increase in time and the maximum energy savings whilst also ensuring that there is no loss of performance in cleaning your clothes.

The primary benefit to people with tanked, solar or other renewable hot water source is that up to a 71% reduction in electricity requirements per wash cycle can be achieved ad that the Eco is most likely the most eco-friendly washing machine in the world.

Not only is the Eco the most ecological washing machine in terms of sheer up front performance, it is also built to last, like our other washing machines made in Sweden with an expected lifespan of over twenty years in normal domestic use.

But that really is only the start of what this outstanding washing machine delivers.

Like the rest of our 2011 model year washing machines we have introduced a large true 8kg load with a new drum and tank that offers a mammoth 60 litres of actual wash volume. We can do this due to our new Hydroactive washing system as it overcomes the common issues encountered with other large capacity front loading washing machines by gently using the flow of water in the drum to move items towards the middle of the drum. Coupled with the new and unique paddle design this system offers unparalleled levels of cleaning, lower detergent requirements and better rinsing of your laundry.

An ecological washing machine without compromises.

•Simple to use left to right programming & control
•Favourite program memory
•True hot & cold mixed filling
•A++AA Performance
•Wide opening door for easy access
•SmartFill
•Dynamic Wash System (DWS)
•FourPoint Suspension System (FPSS)
•ZeroSeal System
•Quiet performance
•KidLock anti-child system


We have decided to introduce this model of hot and cold fill washing machine and it should be available late 2011. Pricing and full specification will be available closer to the launch date.

Getting The Most Out Of Hot & Cold Fill
Some people have been asking about the requirements in order to plan ahead to install an Eco washing machine and these are the basics to get the most from it.

If you have a renewable heated water source, in order to get the most out of it and to save as much wasted water and energy as possible there are some installation requirements that should be met to ensure the best possible performance.

The first is that, as much as is reasonably possible, have the washing machine installed as close to the hot water source as is possible. This saves wasted heat loss from pipework between the water supply and the actual machine itself.

Next the pipework between the water storage tank and the machine must be lagged in order to prevent as much heat loss as possible. Because the washing machine is so efficient in the amount of water it uses (like most modern washing machines only more than most in this case) then, depending on the length of the pipe run between the machine and the storage tank it could have filled almost entirely with the water in the pipes or, filled a good bit of the water required with just the water in the pipework. By lagging the pipes you keep the heat in the water as much as possible for as long as possible which makes the Eco much more efficient than i f you didn't.

Please bear in mind that the more you do to ensure that the heat energy doesn't escape needlessly the more efficient the machine will be.







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Post# 546717 , Reply# 1   10/1/2011 at 01:46 (4,671 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
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I must say that they look a bit weird, and who needs a machine like this when the world has Miele?

Jacob


Post# 546718 , Reply# 2   10/1/2011 at 01:52 (4,671 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

i quite like them!

Post# 546720 , Reply# 3   10/1/2011 at 02:22 (4,671 days old) by jameseyboy (uxbridge, london UK)        

i work at a premier travel inn we have one there it washes well but rinsing is very poor we have to set an extra rinse after every cycle .

Post# 546730 , Reply# 4   10/1/2011 at 05:54 (4,671 days old) by splittub (Europe)        

Just a tip, if you want to know anything about the ISE appliances, check the UK Whitegoods discussion board (see my link), as some of the people on that forum work for ISE.

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Post# 546740 , Reply# 5   10/1/2011 at 08:13 (4,671 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Hmmm...

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Looks like an Asko build to me.

Not that that is a bad thing...
Malcolm


Post# 546747 , Reply# 6   10/1/2011 at 09:04 (4,671 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

All of the Asko models available over here only extracted after every second rinse which is not very efficient.

Post# 546874 , Reply# 7   10/2/2011 at 04:13 (4,670 days old) by newwave1 (Lincoln, United Kingdom)        

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Very nice indeed. I'd have one. Nice that we can get ASKO here under different guises (ISE, Maytag) after they pulled out the UK market some years ago.

I'm going to buy a new machine soon. £899.99. is it worth that?

Darren


Post# 546876 , Reply# 8   10/2/2011 at 06:03 (4,670 days old) by PeterH770 (Marietta, GA)        

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The door closes to the outer tub instead of to the cabinet, so as they say, no door bellows.  That means that you can see and feel the vibrations during the spin as the door/tub floats behind the front panel.  They have to leave room between the front panel cutout and the door, or with some good vibration during the spin, the door may hit the cabinet


Post# 546877 , Reply# 9   10/2/2011 at 06:28 (4,670 days old) by dj-gabriele ()        

To me it is better value than Miele!
And based on style alone I'd get it in a hurry. I like the 10 years standard warranty and the cheap replacement parts.


Post# 546906 , Reply# 10   10/2/2011 at 12:31 (4,670 days old) by DishwasherRules (Italy)        

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Cool design, but it stops there for me.
@dj-gabriele: I would NEVER trade my Miele for one of these washing machines!


Post# 547469 , Reply# 11   10/4/2011 at 16:50 (4,668 days old) by piasca (Portugal)        

Looks very good to me. I believe they are only available in the UK?

Does any one know were I can see more photos of the inside and construction or some more technical documents.


Post# 547482 , Reply# 12   10/4/2011 at 17:40 (4,668 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Does any one know were I can see more photos of the inside a

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Just look at any of the ASKO websites....as these are rebadged machines that may or may not have different programming, but the base construction will be the same.



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Post# 549895 , Reply# 13   10/16/2011 at 23:18 (4,655 days old) by qualin (Canada)        
Researched...

One of the local appliance dealers here in Calgary, Alberta, Canada deals with Asko products. They can get anything Asko.

I considered one of their "XXL" machines, but the problems I found were:

- Parts costs. I've heard parts are expensive for them.
- Capacity. European grade capacity. North American washers have higher capacities.
- High spin RPM = Premature bearing failure with heavy clothes?
- Big price premium, would consider Miele instead for that premium.

They have some great ideas.. If I lived in Europe, I'd have one already. :)


Post# 549920 , Reply# 14   10/17/2011 at 04:34 (4,655 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
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A couple of things that you may have missed from the original poster that does negate some if not all of your concerns....

 

- the machine as sold comes with a full 10yr parts AND labour warranty

- the poster is in the UK......99% of machines sold will be 'European Capacity' (and lets not get into a capacity war)

- balance before spin and quality of parts shouldn't be an issue with high RPM spins on these machines....they've been doing 1200rpm plus for well over 20 years.

- Miele may be less expensive even in the UK, but don't come with anything remotely like the warranty


Post# 549933 , Reply# 15   10/17/2011 at 06:34 (4,655 days old) by lavamat_jon (UK)        

Miele's do come with 10 year warranties here in the UK too (and have done for a long time now, in fact I imagine the first lot of "10 year warranty" machines are probably reaching to the end of their warranties about now)... they're probably about equal in terms of competition, although I'd be hard pressed to decide which one to buy if I was buying today!

 

FWIW, the equivalent specs are about the same price... so it's six of one, half a dozen of the other when it comes to these machines.  I'd be happy with either!

 

Jon


Post# 551191 , Reply# 16   10/22/2011 at 03:51 (4,650 days old) by qualin (Canada)        
To Ronhic

Hi Ronhic. Thanks for the response.

I think a ten year parts and labor warranty is amazing. However, I'd also be concerned about the availability of those parts in Canada. I'd think that having to wait two to four weeks to get a part, even if it is under warranty, to be unacceptable.

I apologize about the capacity war, just a matter of personal preference.

Asko is claiming a 2000 RPM spin on these machines.. It's almost scary to watch. That's got me wondering about their long term reliability if it's used frequently.


Post# 551199 , Reply# 17   10/22/2011 at 05:44 (4,650 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
ISE Maytag UK = Built By Asko

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ISE machines are indeed built by Asko, but the ISE team have stipulated their own specs etc....have had my Maytag Askos 10yrs now, (wow can you believe that)and I must say they have out performed any other machines I have owned!!!, not had much daily use since the Zugs arrival but thats about to change!!

Only thing that have had issues with is the pump on the dryer condenser needed changing, work great, very quiet, variable programme choices, can do 95d cotton wash with 1600rpm final spin in 50 mins....longer if needed, usual 40d done in 40mins


Post# 551201 , Reply# 18   10/22/2011 at 05:47 (4,650 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Asko Asea

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Maytag badged Asko`s

Post# 551202 , Reply# 19   10/22/2011 at 05:49 (4,650 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Maytag Euroline

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"Performance You Can Depend On"

Post# 551205 , Reply# 20   10/22/2011 at 05:56 (4,650 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
MaytAskoISE

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Dispenser compartment smooth sided and deep, jets flush all areas and underneath every fill!!

Post# 551206 , Reply# 21   10/22/2011 at 06:07 (4,650 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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Complement the original Maytags...

Post# 551207 , Reply# 22   10/22/2011 at 06:13 (4,650 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Maytag Inside

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Stainless Steel inner & outer tubs, solid metal base, 4 suspension legs, cast weights

Post# 551368 , Reply# 23   10/23/2011 at 07:19 (4,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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ISE, Maytag, Electrolux, yes, Electrolux. In Switzerland! Multihousing machines.

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Post# 551369 , Reply# 24   10/23/2011 at 07:21 (4,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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And then ofcourse Eudora in Austria.

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Post# 551371 , Reply# 25   10/23/2011 at 07:27 (4,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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In Sweden not only Asko but also Cylinda. The cheaper models could be Beko.

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Post# 551377 , Reply# 26   10/23/2011 at 07:36 (4,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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But what on earth is this? An older model with the Beko label?

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Post# 551413 , Reply# 27   10/23/2011 at 15:25 (4,649 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
But what on earth is this? An older model with the Beko labe

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No, not at all...if you zoom in on the picture, it says Whirlpool......


Post# 551416 , Reply# 28   10/23/2011 at 15:45 (4,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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You're right! lol!

An Asko sold as a Beko with a Whirlpool label on it. Odd!!!


Post# 551418 , Reply# 29   10/23/2011 at 16:02 (4,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        
Pictures for the Archives

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The washer

Post# 551419 , Reply# 30   10/23/2011 at 16:03 (4,649 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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Close up of the detergent drawer.

Post# 551421 , Reply# 31   10/23/2011 at 16:18 (4,649 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thats gotta be

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A typo on the website...Lol, Whirlpool marketed these as their semi-commercial machines since last year, how it all pans out since their merger, we will have to wait and see!!!

These machines are generally sold through independant dealers and offer a higher grade guarantee, its amazing to see how many badges they hold, a testamony to how good they are me thinks!!!



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