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Post# 547776 , Reply# 1   10/6/2011 at 12:13 (4,609 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 547922 , Reply# 3   10/7/2011 at 01:04 (4,609 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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Yes, the LP is making a comeback. It's ironic that it even appears likely to outlast the medium that supposedly replaced it.
This Zenith changer is interesting, but I'm not sure how wild I am about some of the features. I wonder how well the nylon brush would clean the stylus. And that rotating headshell for the cartridge might, in theory, reduce arm rigidity and performance. Although that probably wasn't a big issue back in the 1960s. One sidebar product I liked seeing: the tonearm imported by Shure. I'm guessing that might have been an SME. I know Shure was the SME importer once. SME is a well respected arm maker. Also, these days, pretty expensive! |
Post# 548008 , Reply# 7   10/7/2011 at 16:35 (4,608 days old) by Wascomat_Kid ()   |   | |
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I HATE those! I saw that particular Zenith record changer & one of the 1/2s of the Pop-Up adaptor broke off. The one where U put the adaptor over the regular spindle is FAR better! |
Post# 548016 , Reply# 8   10/7/2011 at 18:24 (4,608 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)   |   | |
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I made the Monarch reference. There was some discussion as to whether my diagnosis was correct. I am quite sure I am, but haven't had the chance to go through my books to find the reference to manufacturer since then. I actually want to recheck my facts.
It certainly wasn't VM. I do know Zenith did make some of its changers too. However I cannot get the Monarch reference out of my head as I know I've been down that lane before some years ago. If someone has a model number of the stereo using that changer pass it along, it may help. Thanks for the article. It is interesting to see how that changer was developed. But who actually BUILT IT ? Hmmm. The jury is still out... |
Post# 548025 , Reply# 9   10/7/2011 at 19:22 (4,608 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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There's a demo of a similar changer here: CLICK HERE TO GO TO kenwashesmonday's LINK |
Post# 548096 , Reply# 11   10/8/2011 at 09:32 (4,607 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)   |   | |
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The changer without the fold-up 45 spindle is a plain old VM idler-drive changer is disguise. The belt-drive changer with the fold-up spindle was only used in the top of the line Zenith sets.
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Post# 548118 , Reply# 12   10/8/2011 at 12:22 (4,607 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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I have four of the VM Micro-Touch changers, and one BSR with the Micro-Touch arm in an Allegro from 1974. Although the heavy one with the pop up adapter LOOKS like a VM, it was pretty well determined it is a different manufacturer. Someone in an audio club who's refurbished one could clue us in I know. And, the first Micro-Touch arm didn't flip upside down, the head shell apparently rotated into a position where you could change the stylus or the pickup. Here's this owner's narrative:
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Post# 548167 , Reply# 13   10/8/2011 at 18:21 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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Here is a listing for a small Zenith console with the VM made 2g tone-arm changer. I think the seller may be a bit overly optimistic in his pricing. CLICK HERE TO GO TO bwoods's LINK on Nashville Craigslist |
Post# 548193 , Reply# 16   10/8/2011 at 21:56 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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and #2 |
Post# 548194 , Reply# 17   10/8/2011 at 21:57 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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and #3 |
Post# 548256 , Reply# 18   10/9/2011 at 07:19 (4,607 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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I kept looking for stereos on that thing too! One other thing that makes me sick as well is that a house about a half a mile from here had a huge discarded Zenith in its driveway, tarped over, but I recognized the legs. Saw it sitting in the pouring rain once, and I still shudder to think where it went.
Watch "Who's Been Sleeping In My Bed?" and see Liz Montgomery dancing for Dean Martin, to his Magnavox console. Small, but noticeable. Magnavox appeared frequently in Dean Martin pics. |
Post# 548633 , Reply# 19   10/11/2011 at 01:28 (4,605 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)   |   | |
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"shudder to think where it went next"-probably into the back of a rear load trash truck--tarp and all.Horrible ending for such a nice Hi-fi!Crushed at the prime of its life? |
Post# 548894 , Reply# 21   10/12/2011 at 10:22 (4,603 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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My family does, that I can safely say. It's okay to be interested, but don't get more than two of anything. That's pretty much their take. What I can't tolerate for a second is another collector with MegaTude, who can't recognize that some other people's collections are important to them, even though they're not filed and polished. I love high end collections, just don't make "lesser" collectors feel like garbage.
I hope your cousin got the message real good. My sister in law needs a tune up too. |
Post# 548903 , Reply# 22   10/12/2011 at 11:21 (4,603 days old) by bwoods ()   |   | |
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Thank you, Alan. That makes me feel better, at least I'm not alone. |
Post# 548945 , Reply# 24   10/12/2011 at 15:49 (4,603 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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"True recycling, I think, is repairing and keeping functional an old device or appliance, not crushing, burning or shredding it. Beside continuing its functionality, this keeps a piece of our history alive."
This is my feeling, too.
One other point: older items are often better in various ways. Even after nearly 3 1/2 years here, I'm still a little amazed at how many older appliances out there have run for 30-50 years with only minor repairs. If even that. Not to mention the stories I regularly hear of new appliances that break young.
Stuff was also a lot more repairable once. I was talking to someone a couple of weeks ago. He's done appliance repairs in the past, but he's now stumped by one repair. He did something similar on a 1960-something Kenmore. But the modern appliance he can't see how he can do it. There is no space, and no easy access to the part in question. Except, one supposes, by taking the appliance completely apart. Or, as the maker probably hopes, just giving up and buying new.
And sometimes performance might be better or a better buy for the dollar. Some vintage audio equipment goes for amazingly high prices, simply because in the eyes (or actually ears) of the beholder, it does something or things better than anything made since. |
Post# 548955 , Reply# 25   10/12/2011 at 16:15 (4,603 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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"Just out of curiosity, any of you ever get a hard time from family members or friends from your collections of appliance, tv's steros, etc. ???"
Oh, indeed, yes. I don't have a collection of washers--but just having an interest may brand me as a freak in some people's eyes.
I have heard about other things, too. Years back, I was heavily into audio equipment. Back then, I had a component system with only a turntable, amp, and speakers. My father made three comments that I recall. As I best recall: 1. "Why does anyone go through this when they can turn on the radio?" 2. "Why do some people live in the past?" In other words, why does my crazy son still have records instead of the CDs everyone else has? 3. Then he said something to the effect that there was no future with the type of equipment I had. Maybe he was right--that is a complicated question. But it's not something he was qualified to discuss. His idea of high end audio was a car radio that got both AM and FM.
I also get the "you're crazy!" reaction with computers. I have a collection of older computers. It is a practically minded collection, since it was to support a software investment and document archives going back to 1980-something. Practical to me, but a lot of people thought I was crazy having a mountain of computer stuff. Others thought I was nuts because I continued using them. |
Post# 548962 , Reply# 26   10/12/2011 at 16:26 (4,603 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)   |   | |
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"I am also amazed at the number of people who only have a radio in their house, no other method of music reproduction and no music collection."
Part of that today is, of course, the MP3 player revolution. I think a lot of people have shifted to iTunes/iPod.
But past that, I've been amazed at the "limited" audio systems I've seen over the years. I've seen the houses with only a radio. And even when there is something more, it's so often mass market junk.
I remember being in one house a few years ago that was an example of this. The couple were well off. Lexus on the driveway. Impressive house in an impressive development. One of the houses even apparently had some fancy custom garage built to support the Ferrari. And, in the house I was in, there was a Bose Wave radio in the living room. It was radio only--CD had been added by a Sony changer that might well have come from Circuit City. |
Post# 549068 , Reply# 29   10/13/2011 at 04:26 (4,603 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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I have a feeling the console stereo had a better fate than the Magnavox I saw on the driveway of a house that doesn't exist any more. I used to take that street on the way to work. It was a later model console, and it sat in a few rain storms before it was hauled off. The house wasn't there much longer, the mayor at the time had a ten lane parkway put in on that street, a few hundred retirees and starter families were displaced by that.
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Post# 549087 , Reply# 31   10/13/2011 at 08:31 (4,603 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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A friend of mine told me that he caught some woman on eBay who found a 1975 or so Magnavox console IN the ORIGINAL packing crate/giant cardboard. So, she uncrated it, painted it white, and painted flowers on it. Asking price, $1300!!
She got reamed by a high end Magnavox collector, and the other high end collector. She ended up selling it to the friend who gutted it and trashed the cabinet! She got $50 for it! |
Post# 549096 , Reply# 32   10/13/2011 at 09:48 (4,602 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)   |   | |
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Painted it white? She probably used cheap paint too. Sounds like she had no class! |
Post# 549122 , Reply# 33   10/13/2011 at 12:11 (4,602 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 549131 , Reply# 34   10/13/2011 at 13:04 (4,602 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Post# 549151 , Reply# 35   10/13/2011 at 15:16 (4,602 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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Post# 549245 , Reply# 37   10/14/2011 at 05:54 (4,602 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)   |   | |
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I've only seen two consoles near here that went to trash, hopefully the blonde Silvertone '50s console didn't get in the truck. It was left out after some unsuccessful attempts to sell it.
What bothers me is nobody has any grasp of the fact they need saving, even though they're not worth piles of money. If I can't get $500 for my biggest console, it's still not going to landfill or be turned into a bar or patio cart. |
Post# 549453 , Reply# 39   10/15/2011 at 05:07 (4,601 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Is there such a thing as an internet freecycle site in the USA?
I have joined three freecycle groups all where I live just slightly different areas they are brilliant places. It works by anyone taking anything to the dump can place it on the site for free all they need to put is its location and a rough description, If you need any item you email the person offering it and if its still available you go and get it. This saves the landfill and the person getting rid of the item/s saves a trip to the dump and you get what it is you were after. Its taking off big time over here saves a lot of time and a lot of waste. Austin |
Post# 549462 , Reply# 41   10/15/2011 at 07:08 (4,601 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)   |   | |
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Having somewhere to take/collect items no longer needed by others, The problem here is lots of people have things to "gift" but no means to transport it hence "freecycle" is so useful to them as all they need is either their own pc or someone elses or the local library and once a member can off load all sorts, to date I have given tables chairs and 2 double glazed doors also collected vacuum cleaners and broken washers which get repaired or gifted on, I was also lucky when asking for a bath to be given a hardly used corner bath in white just what I was after :)
If you want anything you put an ad and hope its succesfull. Austin |