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Post# 547716   10/6/2011 at 07:25 (4,610 days old) by chuffle (....)        

A few months ago, there was a thread (I can't access the archives, because I have allowed my upgraded membership to lapse...I know, I know) about console stereos, and there was some discussion about who developed and built the various Zenith turntables, such as the one on my behemoth console in my downstairs reception room. I just ran across a small article, from the December, 1962 issue of "Popular Science" magazine, which briefly discusses the particular turntable's development. The link is below. Scroll through to page 150 (if the proper page does not immediately open) in order to view the article.

Just thought that I would pass the article on.

Joe


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Post# 547776 , Reply# 1   10/6/2011 at 12:13 (4,609 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
If this is any help

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The name Monarch popped up in your old thread, as the maker of the changer in your set.  I didn't include the link because I didn't think it would do you any good.


Post# 547917 , Reply# 2   10/7/2011 at 00:48 (4,609 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Very nice TT-like some of the features-very good for 1962.Belt drive platter,headshell on the arm that can be turned over(but not detachable?)and stylus cleaning brush.The HK solid state preamp though-in the sidebar next to the TT article-YECH!!!early SS components SUCKED!Tubes were MUCH better-and still can be today.there were so many TT builders in those days-and the number of TT makers today is--growing.The LP to some is making a comeback.A WELL RECORDED and PRESSED LP can be better than a CD-esp a poorly made CD.Monarch-seems like they made a nice auto TT.

Post# 547922 , Reply# 3   10/7/2011 at 01:04 (4,609 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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Yes, the LP is making a comeback. It's ironic that it even appears likely to outlast the medium that supposedly replaced it.

This Zenith changer is interesting, but I'm not sure how wild I am about some of the features. I wonder how well the nylon brush would clean the stylus. And that rotating headshell for the cartridge might, in theory, reduce arm rigidity and performance. Although that probably wasn't a big issue back in the 1960s.

One sidebar product I liked seeing: the tonearm imported by Shure. I'm guessing that might have been an SME. I know Shure was the SME importer once. SME is a well respected arm maker. Also, these days, pretty expensive!


Post# 547936 , Reply# 4   10/7/2011 at 05:24 (4,609 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

SME arms were used A LOT by radio stations at one time.You would see them mounted on Panasonic SP10,Rek-O-Cuts,and QRK TT's.Have mounted a few of them.Great arms and they can withstand ham handed DJ's.There doesn't seem to be a problem with rigidness in arms with removable headshells.these were great for radio station use-You could put another headshell and cartridge in a TT in a studio that is on air with min interruption-then take the other one to the engineer shop to work on it.Oh yes on that Zenith TT that has the stylus brush--hope the TT has good muting during the change cycle!I do hope TT's and REAL DJ's can come back to radio stations over touch screen computer program storage and play systems.When those crash---its a NIGHTMARE for all radio station folks.For the TT's just keep playing records!Just keep the pegboard holding the "top Forty" by the DJ's side.Glad SME is still with us-and likely to be in the future.would have to look in radio station supply catalogs to see if SME arms are still available to radio stations.There are some stations out there still using TT's ,cart machines ,and Reel decks.The Zenith TT's features are unique-but again a real audiophile wouldn't go crazy for them-just a TT that is above most.

Post# 547942 , Reply# 5   10/7/2011 at 06:14 (4,609 days old) by retro-man (- boston,ma)        

I remember friends of my parents had i think this particular stereo console. It sounded great. The only thing i remember about it was when their kids played 45's with the automatic spindle that pops up, was that the records on the spindle waiting to be played turned also. They always used the same record on the top of the pile because it would wear the label off from the upper guide arm resting on it while it spun. Nice idea but not very practical.
Jon


Post# 547974 , Reply# 6   10/7/2011 at 12:04 (4,608 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

retro-man wrote:
"They always used the same record on the top of the pile because it would wear the label off from the upper guide arm resting on it while it spun. Nice idea but not very practical."

No need to use the balance arm when playing 45s on this changer. The size sensor will still shut it off after the last record is played.

Ken D.


Post# 548008 , Reply# 7   10/7/2011 at 16:35 (4,608 days old) by Wascomat_Kid ()        
Pop-up 45 RPM adaptor

I HATE those! I saw that particular Zenith record changer & one of the 1/2s of the Pop-Up adaptor broke off. The one where U put the adaptor over the regular spindle is FAR better!

Post# 548016 , Reply# 8   10/7/2011 at 18:24 (4,608 days old) by paulg (My sweet home... Chicago)        
Monarch?

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I made the Monarch reference. There was some discussion as to whether my diagnosis was correct. I am quite sure I am, but haven't had the chance to go through my books to find the reference to manufacturer since then. I actually want to recheck my facts.
It certainly wasn't VM. I do know Zenith did make some of its changers too. However I cannot get the Monarch reference out of my head as I know I've been down that lane before some years ago. If someone has a model number of the stereo using that changer pass it along, it may help.
Thanks for the article. It is interesting to see how that changer was developed. But who actually BUILT IT ? Hmmm. The jury is still out...


Post# 548025 , Reply# 9   10/7/2011 at 19:22 (4,608 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

There's a demo of a similar changer here:



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Post# 548031 , Reply# 10   10/7/2011 at 20:39 (4,608 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

I always liked those Zenith changers with the 2G tonearm. Zenith heavily advertised those at the time with print ads, television ads and radio ads. We had a Zenith stereo contemporary design(the ones with the directional flaps over the speakers)and it had the 2G tonearm in it. But I don't think it had the 45 pop up spindle in it. I think it had the kind that you put over the smaller metal spindle. My parents bought it in the fall of 1966.

Post# 548096 , Reply# 11   10/8/2011 at 09:32 (4,607 days old) by kenwashesmonday (Carlstadt, NJ)        

The changer without the fold-up 45 spindle is a plain old VM idler-drive changer is disguise.  The belt-drive changer with the fold-up spindle was only used in the top of the line Zenith sets.

 

Ken D.


Post# 548118 , Reply# 12   10/8/2011 at 12:22 (4,607 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
And here's a neat video too

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I have four of the VM Micro-Touch changers, and one BSR with the Micro-Touch arm in an Allegro from 1974. Although the heavy one with the pop up adapter LOOKS like a VM, it was pretty well determined it is a different manufacturer. Someone in an audio club who's refurbished one could clue us in I know. And, the first Micro-Touch arm didn't flip upside down, the head shell apparently rotated into a position where you could change the stylus or the pickup. Here's this owner's narrative:


 
 


Post# 548167 , Reply# 13   10/8/2011 at 18:21 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()        

Here is a listing for a small Zenith console with the VM made 2g tone-arm changer. I think the seller may be a bit overly optimistic in his pricing.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO bwoods's LINK on Nashville Craigslist


Post# 548169 , Reply# 14   10/8/2011 at 18:40 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()        
most beautiful console ever

If you want to see, what I consider the most beautiful console stereo ever made, watch the Doris Day movie, "The Glass Bottom Boat". Beside being a side-splitting feel good comedy, you will see a guest appearance of a 1964 Zenith console stereo with the built-in spindled Pre-VM Zenith changer.

In the scene where Rod Taylor is looking at Doris and daydreaming about her being Mata Hari, you will see the stereo immediately behind her. She puts a record on it and you can see the Zenith made changer and the circular overarm.

Have you ever passed up buying something that you could kick yourself for later?
Probably not, because none of you are as stupid as I am.

I found this exact stereo at a Salvation Army store in Dayton, Ohio. I did not buy it because because at the time, I thought would be too big and too expensive (I think they wanted $75). I will never forgive myself for being such an idiotic jerk and allowing it to slip through my fingers.


Post# 548192 , Reply# 15   10/8/2011 at 21:55 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()        
Doris Day and the Zenith Console

The next three postings will show you views of the Zenith Console, I found on the Doris Day site.. However, none of the pictures are very good and do the steero justice. You need to see the movie.

Post# 548193 , Reply# 16   10/8/2011 at 21:56 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()        

and #2

Post# 548194 , Reply# 17   10/8/2011 at 21:57 (4,607 days old) by bwoods ()        

and #3

Post# 548256 , Reply# 18   10/9/2011 at 07:19 (4,607 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
I don't know how I missed that! And I have the DVD somew

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I kept looking for stereos on that thing too! One other thing that makes me sick as well is that a house about a half a mile from here had a huge discarded Zenith in its driveway, tarped over, but I recognized the legs. Saw it sitting in the pouring rain once, and I still shudder to think where it went.

Watch "Who's Been Sleeping In My Bed?" and see Liz Montgomery dancing for Dean Martin, to his Magnavox console. Small, but noticeable. Magnavox appeared frequently in Dean Martin pics.


Post# 548633 , Reply# 19   10/11/2011 at 01:28 (4,605 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

"shudder to think where it went next"-probably into the back of a rear load trash truck--tarp and all.Horrible ending for such a nice Hi-fi!Crushed at the prime of its life?

Post# 548886 , Reply# 20   10/12/2011 at 09:20 (4,604 days old) by bwoods ()        

Perish, the thought, Rex!! It is amazing what I see at the curbside and also taken to the recycling center.

True recycling, I think, is repairing and keeping functional an old device or appliance, not crushing, burning or shredding it. Beside continuing its functionality, this keeps a piece of our history alive.

My cousin continually gives me a hard time about collecting appliances. I had just purchased a beautiful GE console stereo (about a 5 footer) at the thrift store and had it in my garage. He was laughing and shaking his head and rolling his eyes. Asking why and making fun.

He always managed to make fun and laugh at me in front of other members of the family, like at one of our family holiday dinners, when he had the biggest audience. Being introverted and taught to be polite, I always just sat there and took it. Of course, he is allowed to have his hobby, he collects antique vases, and small items like this. And he thinks this is just fine.

I finally, to my embarassment, I had it with his ridicule and let loose one day at the dinner table at my Aunt's house and said something to the effect "who wants an old piece of glass that never did anything but just sit there on the counter. Appliances are a part of our history and actually did something by serving us and helping to make or lives better. They didn't just sit there on the counter like a piece of junk. Who wants an old vase anyway."

I don't remember the exact words, as I was hurt and angry at being humilitated, but they were pretty close to this.

Now in reality, I don't feel that way. I can apreciate all forms of antiques and vintage items. But I was mad at the time. On the bright side, he hasn't given me anymore mouth about my hobby. (at least not yet.)

Just out of curiosity, any of you ever get a hard time from family members or friends from your collections of appliance, tv's steros, etc. ???


Post# 548894 , Reply# 21   10/12/2011 at 10:22 (4,603 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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My family does, that I can safely say. It's okay to be interested, but don't get more than two of anything. That's pretty much their take. What I can't tolerate for a second is another collector with MegaTude, who can't recognize that some other people's collections are important to them, even though they're not filed and polished. I love high end collections, just don't make "lesser" collectors feel like garbage.

I hope your cousin got the message real good. My sister in law needs a tune up too.


Post# 548903 , Reply# 22   10/12/2011 at 11:21 (4,603 days old) by bwoods ()        

Thank you, Alan. That makes me feel better, at least I'm not alone.

Post# 548904 , Reply# 23   10/12/2011 at 11:28 (4,603 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Just out of curiosity, any of you ever get a hard time from family members or friends from your collections of appliance, tv's steros, etc. ???

No, never. I don't really have a collection of appliances but I have always been interested in stereo equipment and amateur radio and computers. I started with washing machines just a few years ago when I found this website. It's amazing how much information I have learned here just reading the threads.

I have "repaired" a few dishwashers and washing machine "minor" problems for our neighbors. Now, whenever anyone has a question they call me and ask for advice. Things such as "What is the best washer out there for me?" Why does my DW not clean as good as it used to? Anyone remember the neighbor here who only used a small spot of liquid DW detergent in her DW? The spot was the same size as a dime in parameter and about as thick as a dime too..

When someone asks me about new machines, I usually send them here, or gardenweb.com or eopinions.com.

Speaking of stereo equipment I am amazed that to find a console stereo usually you have to visit a grandparents house. I am also amazed at the number of people who only have a radio in their house, no other method of music reproduction and no music collection. I thought EVERYONE had at least a "record player" (ouch!) For me, music has always been one of the things I enjoy the most in my life.


Post# 548945 , Reply# 24   10/12/2011 at 15:49 (4,603 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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"True recycling, I think, is repairing and keeping functional an old device or appliance, not crushing, burning or shredding it. Beside continuing its functionality, this keeps a piece of our history alive."

 

This is my feeling, too.

 

One other point: older items are often better in various ways. Even after nearly 3 1/2 years here, I'm still a little amazed at how many older appliances out there have run for 30-50 years with only minor repairs. If even that. Not to mention the stories I regularly hear of new appliances that break young.

 

Stuff was also a lot more repairable once. I was talking to someone a couple of weeks ago. He's done appliance repairs in the past, but he's now stumped by one repair. He did something similar on a 1960-something Kenmore. But the modern appliance he can't see how he can do it. There is no space, and no easy access to the part in question. Except, one supposes, by taking the appliance completely apart. Or, as the maker probably hopes, just giving up and buying new.

 

And sometimes performance might be better or a better buy for the dollar. Some vintage audio equipment goes for amazingly high prices, simply because in the eyes (or actually ears) of the beholder, it does something or things better than anything made since.


Post# 548955 , Reply# 25   10/12/2011 at 16:15 (4,603 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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"Just out of curiosity, any of you ever get a hard time from family members or friends from your collections of appliance, tv's steros, etc. ???"

 

Oh, indeed, yes. I don't have a collection of washers--but just having an interest may brand me as a freak in some people's eyes.

 

I have heard about other things, too. Years back, I was heavily into audio equipment. Back then, I had a component system with only a turntable, amp, and speakers. My father made three comments that I recall. As I best recall:

1. "Why does anyone go through this when they can turn on the radio?"

2. "Why do some people live in the past?" In other words, why does my crazy son still have records instead of the CDs everyone else has?

3. Then he said something to the effect that there was no future with the type of equipment I had. Maybe he was right--that is a complicated question. But it's not something he was qualified to discuss. His idea of high end audio was a car radio that got both AM and FM.

 

I also get the "you're crazy!" reaction with computers. I have a collection of older computers. It is a practically minded collection, since it was to support a software investment and document archives going back to 1980-something. Practical to me, but a lot of people thought I was crazy having a mountain of computer stuff. Others thought I was nuts because I continued using them.


Post# 548962 , Reply# 26   10/12/2011 at 16:26 (4,603 days old) by LordKenmore (The Laundry Room)        

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"I am also amazed at the number of people who only have a radio in their house, no other method of music reproduction and no music collection."

 

Part of that today is, of course, the MP3 player revolution. I think a lot of people have shifted to iTunes/iPod.

 

But past that, I've been amazed at the "limited" audio systems I've seen over the years. I've seen the houses with only a radio. And even when there is something more, it's so often mass market junk.

 

I remember being in one house a few years ago that was an example of this. The couple were well off. Lexus on the driveway. Impressive house in an impressive development. One of the houses even apparently had some fancy custom garage built to support the Ferrari. And, in the house I was in, there was a Bose Wave radio in the living room. It was radio only--CD had been added by a Sony changer that might well have come from Circuit City.


Post# 549052 , Reply# 27   10/13/2011 at 00:34 (4,603 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

One of the houses even apparently had some fancy custom garage built to support the Ferrari. And, in the house I was in, there was a Bose Wave radio in the living room. It was radio only--CD had been added by a Sony changer that might well have come from Circuit City.

It's so funny you brought those up. I almost included in my previous post that you'll often find only a Bose Wave Radio in a house. But it is so true! You'll find those almost anywhere. Most often in homes where the people can't really afford them.

Several years ago I did a volunteer project with the Houston Fire Department. We volunteered our time to go out and install smoke detectors in poor or senior people's homes. Some of these people had homes that were literally falling apart, but there usually was a Bose Wave radio sitting there. FYI we found a lot of people who already had smoke detectors, the batteries just were old and drained out. A lot of the people couldn't climb up to where the detector was located to change the batteries. I wondered, what did Bose do, sell these things door to door?



Post# 549067 , Reply# 28   10/13/2011 at 04:16 (4,603 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

Well,on that tarped Hi-fi-we can only hope it met a happier fate-maybe someone took it-tarp and all-and put it on their pickup or in their van and rescued it from the horrible fate of the trash truck.Lets just hope.Yes,as far as recycling goes-its better to give the appliance whatever it is-hi-fi or washer,vacuum,-a new home.I feel the same way on vases or "nick-nack' items-yes,we all may have such things-but appliance collectors like the MACHINES-those appliances that can do useful things-like vacuum cleaners,hi-fi's,washers,fridges,etc.so far no one has criticized my appliance collecting hobby.they often ask about what one they should buy,why it doesn't work and so on.I also like the appliances that go boom or bang-guns-they often ask me what sort of gun they should get for their deer hunting.And what sort of ammo to use.and on the Bose radios-----I HAVE ONE-in my bedroom.It has the built in CD player-the old flip top one.Bose sends me flyers asking me to trade it in toward the Bose radio with the slot load CD player like in my car.The old one is fine.My Mom has two,and my sister has three.I also have the Bose Acoustic Wave Portable Stero-this one is old-has the cassette player instead of a CD player-the Bose "Boombox"Use it with my computer.

Post# 549068 , Reply# 29   10/13/2011 at 04:26 (4,603 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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I have a feeling the console stereo had a better fate than the Magnavox I saw on the driveway of a house that doesn't exist any more. I used to take that street on the way to work. It was a later model console, and it sat in a few rain storms before it was hauled off. The house wasn't there much longer, the mayor at the time had a ten lane parkway put in on that street, a few hundred retirees and starter families were displaced by that.

Post# 549076 , Reply# 30   10/13/2011 at 06:42 (4,603 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

also on old hi-fi consoles-lets keep them alive-INTACT-not going to those clowns on eBay that strip them down and sell the components on eBAy.the unit is worth more WHOLE than in parts.Remember the components in these were designed to WORK TOGETHER!and yes-do have a TT-several,and records,CDs,and tapes of music to lkisten too-now I want to get--if I can win a lottery-a band organ and its rolls or books of music!Or a MIDI one!

Post# 549087 , Reply# 31   10/13/2011 at 08:31 (4,603 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        
Shabby Chic

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A friend of mine told me that he caught some woman on eBay who found a 1975 or so Magnavox console IN the ORIGINAL packing crate/giant cardboard. So, she uncrated it, painted it white, and painted flowers on it. Asking price, $1300!!

She got reamed by a high end Magnavox collector, and the other high end collector. She ended up selling it to the friend who gutted it and trashed the cabinet! She got $50 for it!


Post# 549096 , Reply# 32   10/13/2011 at 09:48 (4,602 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Painted it white? She probably used cheap paint too. Sounds like she had no class!

Post# 549122 , Reply# 33   10/13/2011 at 12:11 (4,602 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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You see these people on HGTV, take a careworn desk or dresser, splash whitewash, white latex on it, and call it Shabby Chic. Does not work on Classic Stereo Consoles!! One person who gave me what for once, painted a nice Sivertone console two tone pink, what a vomit maker that one was!

Post# 549131 , Reply# 34   10/13/2011 at 13:04 (4,602 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)        
...maybe the right style cabinet

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...painted Chinese Red with a brass dragon here and there would make a statement...but not black with lime green trim on French Provincial, at least in my book.

from Craigslist...


Post# 549151 , Reply# 35   10/13/2011 at 15:16 (4,602 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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It looks like it wants to eat us!!

Post# 549217 , Reply# 36   10/14/2011 at 02:17 (4,602 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

looks like that Lime green trimmed Hi-Fi would glow in the dark!Looks like one of those barriers that the road dept puts in the area of the street where they are working to route and warn traffic!Oh that poor thing-what is wrong with folks who think that is nice and an improvement??HIDEOUS!If you get the poor thing-you would want to try to restore what it was before.Sadly--it may be hi-fi consoles like that that end up in trash trucks!

Post# 549245 , Reply# 37   10/14/2011 at 05:54 (4,602 days old) by 112561 (River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida)        

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I've only seen two consoles near here that went to trash, hopefully the blonde Silvertone '50s console didn't get in the truck. It was left out after some unsuccessful attempts to sell it.

What bothers me is nobody has any grasp of the fact they need saving, even though they're not worth piles of money. If I can't get $500 for my biggest console, it's still not going to landfill or be turned into a bar or patio cart.


Post# 549442 , Reply# 38   10/15/2011 at 01:17 (4,601 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

The Hi-fi consoles-like anything else are worth what it is to someone-to one person--may be worth a lot-to another-its worthless junk.Its in the eye of the beholder.I agree-hang onto as many as we can.I remember a Magnavox Hi-fi and TV left out on the curb in Manassas,va in my neighborhood.wanted it badly-but no way to get it home.Don't know what happened to it.Guess someone got tired of it in the house--did they get a new Hi-fi and TV?So--they curbed the old Magnavox one.Tried lifting one end of it while it was sitting there-and yes it was HEAVY!Would need aid of somekind to lift it onto a truck then unload it,put it in the house.A real dedicated appliance fan needs a large pickup with a liftgate and an appliance dolley.that would be a good tool to rescue curbed orphans.same with out my way in greenville-found two console 'fis--A Magnavox and a Zenith-the Zenith even had spare cartridges and stylus in the acceries bin by the TT.Went home-found a neighbor with a pickup---they were GONE!someone else had the same idea-the units had "free" signs pinned on them.Apologized to the neighbor I borrowed and his truck.the ones that got away-both were very nice.

Post# 549453 , Reply# 39   10/15/2011 at 05:07 (4,601 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Re/Freecycle?

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Is there such a thing as an internet freecycle site in the USA?
I have joined three freecycle groups all where I live just slightly different areas they are brilliant places.
It works by anyone taking anything to the dump can place it on the site for free all they need to put is its location and a rough description, If you need any item you email the person offering it and if its still available you go and get it.
This saves the landfill and the person getting rid of the item/s saves a trip to the dump and you get what it is you were after.
Its taking off big time over here saves a lot of time and a lot of waste.

Austin


Post# 549457 , Reply# 40   10/15/2011 at 06:31 (4,601 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

"Freecycle" sounds like a good idea-and what a way to get appliances and such for your collection---FREE.Haven't heard of it until now.Maybe this could be put in the papers,want add magazines for folks that don't have computers.there was a dump station in Virginia-at the Prinnce William County landfill-called the "Too Good To Waste Place"folks would place furniture,clothes,appliances,there for people going to that dump to look over.If they want it--they could take it.If the items were unclaimed-they went to the fill.Of the times I went to that dump--no Hi-Fis.Mostly fridges and furniture.remember one woman hugging a fridge she wanted-"ITS MINE!!"until hubby could drive over in the truck to load it.

Post# 549462 , Reply# 41   10/15/2011 at 07:08 (4,601 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Thats a good idea too...

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Having somewhere to take/collect items no longer needed by others, The problem here is lots of people have things to "gift" but no means to transport it hence "freecycle" is so useful to them as all they need is either their own pc or someone elses or the local library and once a member can off load all sorts, to date I have given tables chairs and 2 double glazed doors also collected vacuum cleaners and broken washers which get repaired or gifted on, I was also lucky when asking for a bath to be given a hardly used corner bath in white just what I was after :)
If you want anything you put an ad and hope its succesfull.

Austin



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